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AARPMiller
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September 27, 2011

Share your concerns about Social Security

  • September 27, 2011
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1)     In the article,  Social Security Fears, many Social Security myths are addressed. What concerns you the most about Social Security? 

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    judygram
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    May 9, 2013
    Ronald Reagan added a payroll tax to be sure SS was secure for the baby boomers and Politicians spent that as well. We must vote out most of the democrats and any republican who voted for obamacare . Oh yes lets include the gang of eight in that as well.

    "Gang of Eight"--Lie that will end up being a multi-trillion dollar entitlement spending increase, with the burden falling on American taxpayers. How can 16 million low wage workers help Americans and out Social Security.

    Contributor ⭐
    September 30, 2013
    How can I find out what I am to receive from social security. I am 60 yrs old and will apply for social security benefits when I am 61 1/2. Will social security send me a notice as to when to apply and what I will receive?
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    September 30, 2013
    In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security:
    How can I find out what I am to receive from social security. I am 60 yrs old and will apply for social security benefits when I am 61 1/2. Will social security send me a notice as to when to apply and what I will receive?
    Posted by ValD52


    You can find lots of answers here, and a Social Security Calculator tool to help you, too:
    Why 61 and a half?
    JANMB
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    September 30, 2013
    In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security:
    In Response to Share your fears about Social Security : What concerns me the most is the new terminology, "Entitlement" . it is not an entitlement in the sense of welfare, or free cell phones , or section 8, but, instead it is worked for, from your money, and your employer's money. There is no government money at all!! So , the only entitlement involved, is perhaps, after you have earned it, your employer spent it, and you gave it to the government to hold for you, you should be entitled to get it back, with interest!!!! KEEP PASSING THIS AROUND UNTIL EVERY ONE HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT... THIS IS SURE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!!!!   THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT'S CALCULATION OF AVAILABLE SOCIAL SECURITY IS THEY FORGOT TO FIGURE IN THE PEOPLE WHO DIED BEFORE THEY EVER COLLECTED A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK!!! WHERE DID THAT MONEY GO?   Remember, not only did you and I contribute to Social Security but your employer did, too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you averaged only $30K over your working life, that 's close to $220,500. Read that again. Did you see where the Government paid in one single penny? We are talking about the money you and your employer put in a Government bank to insure you and I that we would have a retirement check from the money we put in, not the Government. Now they are calling the money we put in an entitlement when we reach the age to take it back. If you calculate the future invested value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer 's contribution) at a simple 5% interest (less than what the govt . pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working you'd have $892,919.98.   If you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years (until you're 95 if you retire at age 65) and that 's with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per month.   Another thing with me.... I have two deceased husbands who died in their 50 's , (one was 51 and the other one was 59 before one percent of their social security could be drawn. I worked all my life and am drawing 100% on my own social security). Their S.S. money will never have one cent drawn from what they paid into S.S. all their lives.   THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON HAVE PULLED OFF A BIGGER PONZI SCHEME THAN BERNIE MADOFF EVER DID.   Entitlement my foot, I paid cash for my social security insurance! Just because they borrowed the money for other government spending, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or handout !!   Remember Congressional benefits? --- free healthcare , outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days. Now that 's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my social security retirement payments entitlements ?   We're "broke" and we can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, or Homeless. Yet in the last few months we have provided aid to Haiti , Chile and Turkey . And now Pakistan ......home of bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!!  And they can't help our own citizens in New York and New Jersey !  They sure rushed to help Katrina victims in 10 days!!!!!  I guess minorities have more clout!   Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed S.S. income' receive no additional federal aid nor do they get any financial breaks, while our government and religious organizations pour hundreds of billions of $$$ and tons of food to foreign countries!   They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives, and now, when it 's time for us to collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the government borrow from it in the first place? It was supposed to be in a locked box, not part of the general fund.   Sad isn't it?  
    Posted by louisie


    To attack a benefit that people rely on so heavily is just evil. 

    Remember GW Bush went around the country selling privatizing social security?   He quit his promotion  when the stock market took a nosedive.   Millions of Americans who had worked hard, straining to sock away a portion of their salary for 401(k)s, watched helplessly as a black cloud formed over their golden years.     In October 2008, the Congressional Budget Office revealed that
    Americans had lost $2 trillion in just 15 months — money that will likely never be recovered. 

    When Social Security takes in more in taxes than it has out in benefits – as it has done over the last few decades -- it doesn’t hold onto the money or put it in a lockbox      . Rather, it uses the funds to purchase special Treasury securities, thus incurring an I.O.U. from the whole of government revenue in order to finance the program down the road, in years when benefits fall below tax receipts.

    Soc Security isn't BROKE.   President Obama created the Deficit Committee who took this as an  opportunity to include S S as if it was part of the deficit.            
    JANMB
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    September 30, 2013
    In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security:
    Ronald Reagan added a payroll tax to be sure SS was secure for the baby boomers and Politicians spent that as well. We must vote out most of the democrats and any republican who voted for obamacare . Oh yes lets include the gang of eight in that as well. "Gang of Eight"--Lie that will end up being a multi-trillion dollar entitlement spending increase, with the burden falling on American taxpayers. How can 16 million low wage workers help Americans and out Social Security.
    Posted by judygram


    Ronnie Reagan was the first president to raid the S S fund.    (FACT)

    Some of the ACA  is already in effect--

    People are not excluded from insurance if they have  pre-existing conditions.   That means a lot to folks with heart conditions --cancer etc...

     Anyone under 26 years old can now be insured under their parents policies.     (great for college students)

    Instead of only using 65% of your premiums on healthcare.....the insurance companies must use 80%.


    Suggestion ....if you don't want to use the free preventive programs under Obamacare.....the insurers won't care....they never did care if you lived or died....they are only in business to make money and they make money when they don't pay claims.     I don't like the fact that people who are poor don't see a doctor in the USA who may have TB or parasites and are handling your food and living amongst us.....that is besides I personally don't like people to suffer cause of poor healthcare.
    JANMB
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    September 30, 2013
    In Response to Re: Share your fears about Social Security:
    The act has expanded over the years,  also gives money to states to provide assistance to Aid to Families with Dependent Children, Maternal and Child Welfare, public health services, and the blind. And now they want to add millions more non elderly to SS. We owe the older generation for everything they did. Look at the Hoover Dam. community's benefits from this creation, and it has been said it could not be done in this day and age. Why, because of a government drain on societies and labor. We need to cut Congressional pay, pork spending, everything until we pay back the last generation the benefits they deserve. They were promised 55 and not an escalated age. Where does it stop, 100 years old. There is no point to benefits if you increase the age.
    Posted by judygram


    To suggest going back to the days of slave-labor that the older generation  endured somewhat due to the great depression of the 1929...is ridiculous.       That's why  unions evolved  so the working people could get a decent cut of the profits they helped to make.   

    Still we have an great inequality of income and it is partially the GOv't fault cause republicans won't raise the minimum wages to a standard of living.   

    P S  -- We need bigger Gov't cause we had to bail out Wall Street not long ago or we would have seen a worse depression since 1929. 

    It is well known that the level of income inequality stretches much higher in the United States than in the other developed countries of Europe and North America. Now a report from the International Labour Organization shows that U.S. inequality has literally gone off the chart.

    Income inequality in the United States is soaring so high, in fact, that the authors of the ILO’s new 2013 World of Work report couldn’t even place the United States on the same graph with the other 25 developed countries their new study examines

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/16849-us-inequality-now-literally-off-the-chart


        
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    October 9, 2013
    That it will be brought up  ( chained cpi) to make a long term budget "deal". SS and Medicare should be made stronger not cut!
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    October 10, 2013
    In Response to Share your fears about Social Security:
    1)       In the article,    Social Security Fears , many  Social Security myths  are addressed.  What concerns you the most about Social Security? 
    Posted by AARPMiller


    And, there is some more information here! Social Security When To Apply?

    Do you know when it is best to take social security? There are a lot of factors to consider.
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    October 11, 2013
    Chained CPI: who is responsible for this idea, promoting it, and introducing it into the budget process?  WY newsletter says "President and Congress" are discussing this, well what's the whole story?
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    October 11, 2013
    In Response to Share your fears about Social Security:
    1)       In the article,    Social Security Fears , many  Social Security myths  are addressed.  What concerns you the most about Social Security? 
    Posted by AARPMiller


    You can get your benefits letter , telling you how much you will receive in social security, by signing up here:
                                  
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