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SummerOnTheWay1
September 29, 2024

📋 Premiums for Medicare Drug Plans Will Be Less Next Year (AARP Article)

  • September 29, 2024
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FROM THE ARTICLE - SEE ARTICLE FOR MORE!!!

 

Open enrollment for Part D and Medicare Advantage plans begins Oct. 15.

 

By Kimberly Lankford, AARP. Published September 27, 2024.

 

Average monthly premiums for Medicare Part D and Medicare Advantage plans will decrease in 2025, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced Friday.

 

The average monthly premium for a stand-alone Part D prescription plan is projected to be $40 next year, a decline of $1.63, almost $20 annually.

 

https://www.aarp.org/health/medicare-insurance/info-2024/drug-plan-premiums.html

60 replies

SummerOnTheWay1
September 29, 2024

📎  [9/28/24] Gail @GailL1 , I am confused. I thought premiums were INCREASING in 2025.

 

Nicole

GailL1
Community Champion ⭐⭐⭐
September 29, 2024

@SummerOnTheWay1 

Let me see if I can explain it and what I actually said.  

By law, the Inflation REduction Act, the BASE premiums can only go up 6% -

CMS.gov New RElease - Medicare Advantage and Medicare Prescription Drug Programs to Remain Stable as CMS Implements Improvements to the Programs in 2025 

 

per the link: 

  • Premium Stabilization: Beginning in 2024, the Inflation Reduction Act provides a mechanism to limit premium increases for people enrolled in Part D. Specifically, the law limits the growth in the base beneficiary premium (used to calculate the plan-specific basic premium) to a 6% annual increase. 

Now that is the BASE premium  and a  base premium is just that a base onto which other amounts are added depending on what’s in the plan. what is in a premium?  The actual “meat” of the policy.  The actual “meat” of the policy is what makes it a benefit or a detriment based on ones needs.  

 

That’s what I am cautioning against - DON”T just look at the premium - look at the meat of the policy - what’s covered, for how much, what tier, what deductible.  Those are the things that can be designed and sanctioned by CMS. to meet the base premium.  

 

Things like this will reduce the cost of the plan to a beneficiary but it may also take away some of their needs too:

  • A needed expensive drug may not be in the formulary anymore
  • A needed drug has been pushed up to a higher more expensive tier
  • The deductible might be way higher
  • copays may change to coinsurance

Or the plan may have just disappeared altogether.  

 

So what everybody should do is review their current plan in detail based on ones needs when they get their EOC (explanation of change).

Then when the new plans come out for your area, beginning soon, compare your needs to the other plans to see if you would come out better with another plan.

 

When the government ask insurers to pick up more, they do but it is then the cost is just passed along to the beneficiaries.  Fact of Life like everything else, low man on the totem pole pays.  

 

This cautionary review shouldn’t just be for free standing drug plan.  As you may or may not know, the majority of Medicare Advantage plans have an included Medicare Prescription Drug Plan.  So review the one that you have - free standing Prescription Drug Plans or a Medicare Advantage plan.

 

My caution is posted here on this board:

https://community.aarp.org/t5/Medicare-Insurance/PLEASE-REVIEW-YOUR-MEDICARE-COVERAGE-FOR-2025/td-p/2568330 

 

To buy any insurance product, you have to know your needs, your pocketbook and then you analysize the details of the policy based on those factors.  They may throw in some “free’ (HA_HA) stuff but that’s just fluff.  And some MA plans are reducing that fluff, whatever it may be.  

 

Now would I ever tell you that I don’t believe the government?  Not unless I can prove it without a shadow of a doubt.  Do I have doubt ?  Well . . . . . 

 

 

IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna
Contributor ⭐⭐⭐
September 29, 2024

But they have a way around that only 6% increase.  Like what is being done to me.  They are no longer offering the plan I have this year for next year.  This company is only offering one plan d, not 3 like last year.  My current premium is $9.90 and my 3 prescriptions have a $0 copay per month.  The new plan is $44.90 with $5 and $10 copays per month.  That is a huge increase.  They also claim they sent me a letter about this but I never received it.  I found it online supposedly sent in August but they claim they sent it in the middle of September.   Plus they have no plans to send me another copy. Two dates 3 weeks apart.  Probably didn't send it all and hope I will be dumb and stick with them.  Insurance companies always find a way around laws.

 

I will be checking the other plans.  I know to enter my drugs to get an accurate cost per month.  I only take generic.  Two of my prescriptions would only cost $10 for a 3 month supply at Walmart. So only $30 compared to almost $165 for 3 months for the plan d.  I can't wait to see what the other plans cost will be when I enter my drug prescriptions.   Hope to find something more affordable then the plan they are moving me into.

 

The number of plans being offered here this year is only 14 compared to 22 last year.  Most of the ones left are the high priced ones.  And I mean high priced. 8 of them are over $60 a month, some are over $100 a month.  Much higher than the national average.  And that is just for the premium.  Most have $10 or more monthly copays for the drugs. I saw this in the Medicare handbook for 2025 in the back pages. 

 

And I live in the second largest county in Oklahoma.  We are a healthcare wasteland.  This state has the third lowest number of doctors per capita in the country.  Yeah Medicare really works.  Beware of Medicare For ALL!  It will only get worse then

SummerOnTheWay1
October 1, 2024

📎  [10/1/24]  Well it is FINALLY October 1st. Guess I should call Aetna Medicare AGAIN to see IF this time I can get some ANSWERS.

 

As you said @shamit , the ONLINE version of the 2025 CHANGES is hard to see. Lol, and my "tiny" VERY OLD Android Cell Phone does NOT help.

 

IF you can (NO PRESSURE) let me know what happens with you.

 

I am really LAZY and may stay with their SilverScript Part D plan IF my Blood Pressure and Chlolestral meds are STILL COVERED.

 

In my "humble" opinion, ALL of them are going to "lack" in some areas. Bottom line, I luv my CVS and want to stay with them.

 

Good Luck EVERYONE with 2025!!!

 

Nicole

Contributor ⭐⭐⭐
October 1, 2024

@SummerOnTheWay1   Nicole, please take the time to check out your options.  I know it is easy to just keep what you have.  But for me that would cost a lot of money.

 

I received an email from Medicare today that had a preview of the Part D plans in my area.  I entered my information (zip code, county, drugs, and nearby pharmacies).  If I stick with my current plan it will cost me roughly $1080 for the year (premiums + prescriptions) 

 

There are 5 other plans that are less expensive.  Hopefully this will be accurate when the enrollment time comes.  The least expensive has a $0 per month premium and all 3 of my prescriptions are $0 per month copay.  So I would pay $1080 if I stay with the current plan  or I could switch and pay $0. 

 

It isn't that hard to switch.  You can do it online on the Medicare site that compares the plans.  My husband switched last year and it was pretty easy.  In fact the plan he currently has is the plan I will be switching to.  He takes no prescriptions so he always chooses the lowest priced premium.  Last year even though it had a lower premium than my current plan the total cost for the year (premium + prescriptions) was higher than my current plan.  

 

Oh yes and CVS is a preferred provider here.  Also Walgreens.  All the others nearby are in network but not preferred so they would cost a little more for the prescriptions since they are preferred.  I hope you check and find something that will work better for you too.

SummerOnTheWay1
October 1, 2024

📎@shamit  , thanks!!! Your husband is so lucky. Never heard of anyone▶️*** AGE 65 and older NOT taking meds. Good for him!!!

 

Lol, so that is the MEDICARE EMAIL sitting in my IN BOX.

 

Heading to go READ it - appreciate the heads up.

 

Nicole

 


[*** SHAMIT wrote: Nicole, please take the time to check out your options.  I know it is easy to just keep what you have.  But for me that would cost a lot of money.

 

I received an email from Medicare today that had a preview of the Part D plans in my area.  I entered my information (zip code, county, drugs, and nearby pharmacies).  If I stick with my current plan it will cost me roughly $1080 for the year (premiums + prescriptions) 

 

There are 5 other plans that are less expensive.  Hopefully this will be accurate when the enrollment time comes.  The least expensive has a $0 per month premium and all 3 of my prescriptions are $0 per month copay.  So I would pay $1080 if I stay with the current plan  or I could switch and pay $0. 

 

It isn't that hard to switch.  You can do it online on the Medicare site that compares the plans.  My husband switched last year and it was pretty easy.  In fact the plan he currently has is the plan I will be switching to.  He takes no prescriptions so he always chooses the lowest priced premium.  Last year even though it had a lower premium than my current plan the total cost for the year (premium + prescriptions) was higher than my current plan.  

 

Oh yes and CVS is a preferred provider here.  Also Walgreens.  All the others nearby are in network but not preferred so they would cost a little more for the prescriptions since they are preferred.  I hope you check and find something that will work better for you too. ***]


Contributor ⭐⭐
October 7, 2024

I'm not sure what world this AARP article was written for.  In the real world, plan premiums are increasing.  My AARP UHC plan in North Carolina went up last year to $60+/mo from $40+.  Now that is well over $70/mo.  Because of that increase I ditched AARP and for 2024 went to Silverscript for $5/mo.  Now Silverscript is increasing to $40/mo.  Wellcare has a plan for $0.  I've checked the Tier copays, and have compared some formulary items, and it doesn't seem any reason to stay with Silverscript, and certainly no reason to consider AARP's plan.  I'm still not sure why AARP continues to promote UHC other than the payments/royalties UHC pays to use AARP's name.  Also, some pharmacies may have their own discount plans (eg. Blink) that they will give you a special price for without you even asking, bypassing your insurance copay.  It's a real quagmire.  Reason to have CMS ability to have competitive bidding for all drug prices. Time to put the PBMs out of business - they're reaping huge profits and guess who's paying for it.

Contributor ⭐
October 10, 2024

AARP UHC Supplemental Plan continues to be a great value, and will continue in 2025. The Plan D Prescription Plan not so much, and I will be saying adios to this expensive plan and moving to WellCare. With my 4 generic spripts, my total out of pock is 0 for the entire year. For the AARP UCH Walgreens plan, hundreds out of pocket. Thanks but no thanks. Yep, rip off.

SummerOnTheWay1
October 15, 2024

📎  [10/15/24]

 

1st day of being able to CHANGE my Part D Prescription Plan. Plan on using Option 2 help mentioned in Medicare EMAIL I received this month. Lol, wonder what I wil end up with. Wellcare per the Medicare Site Tool seems to be the way to go.

 

Don @donp12594 , @shamit - do you have any thoughts on which plan you will have for 2025?

 

Thanks,

Nicole

 

▶️*** FROM MY MEDICARE EMAIL.

 

You have 2 main ways to get your Medicare coverage — Original Medicare or Medicare Advantage (Medicare-approved plans from private companies). It's important to understand the differences between these 2 options, so consider these things when choosing coverage.

 

[Option 1] Start at Medicare.gov, your official source to find the type of coverage that fits you best. If you need more help comparing options:

Call us at 1-800-MEDICARE during Open Enrollment.


[Option 2] Contact your local State Health Insurance Assistance Program (SHIP). Visit shiphelp.org to get the phone number for your state.


Sincerely,

The Medicare Team


Contributor ⭐⭐⭐
October 15, 2024

@SummerOnTheWay1   ;  It looks like the Wellcare for me too.  The next least expensive would cost me about $42 a month (premium + drug cost).  Wellcare would cost $0.  Hopefully they aren't sucking us all in and then raise the price of the drugs after sign-up.  They can raise their prices whenever they want but we aren't allowed to change plans until the next year.  Somehow that doesn't seem fair.  But I have that $42 savings to put towards the drugs if they raise their prices.

 

I will be waiting to sign up after I get back from vacation next week.  Just want to make sure they don't make any changes.

Contributor ⭐
October 15, 2024

 The key is making sure all of your drugs are covered. Wellcare is 0 payout no premium for my 4 generics but for 2025 my wife will change plans. If she stays on Wellcare two of her brand drugs are NOT covered and cost a fortune. She will be moving to a BCBS plan with a premium but overall much less expensive. The Medicare comparison tool is awesome!

SummerOnTheWay1
October 21, 2024

📎  [10/21/24]

 

I am so glad I just called my Local Office of Aging @shamit and Don @donp12594 !!!

 

The earliest appointment I can get is November 14, 2024.

 

Lol, I was dragging my feet with this as they are in the City (I am in the suburb) and an awful highway between me and them.

 

While I appreciate the handy Medicare Comparison Tool, old and don't trust online.  🙄

 

Anyway, I will update you guys after my appointment.

 

Tool says Wellcare.

 

When I went on their website this weekend, I am NOT seeing the plan the Medicare Tool recommends. Just ONE PLAN FOR MY ZIP CODE and it is not cheap.  🤔

 

Rather deal with LOA as they are local, speak English and KNOW what they are doing.

 

It seems EVERYONE, including my bank sees a need to have foreigners answer their phones who I cannot understand and p.ss me off with their obvious TRAINING NOTES they are reading back to me.

 

Shamit, hope you had/have an awesome vacation.

 

Take care,

Nicole  👵  (Medicare Forum) 

GailL1
Community Champion ⭐⭐⭐
October 21, 2024

Kaiser Health News 10/21/2024 - Medicare Drug Plans Are Getting Better Next Year. Some Will Also Cost More. 

 

Course, that's for people that take expensive drugs - those are covered and better due to the MOOP for PDPs.

But for others that may one or two and these are generic - it's gonna hurt a bit but that's what insurance is - 

 

 

IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna
SummerOnTheWay1
November 14, 2024

📎  [11/14/24] @shamit , it is Wellcare for 2025 for me. I wonder how come there is ZERO cost for me? Lol, now my 1st CVS pharmacy trip for 2025 will be interesting = zero or $. LOA was very nice.

Contributor ⭐⭐⭐
November 14, 2024

@SummerOnTheWay1 , It should work out for you.  My husband was on this last year and continuing this one for next year.  I also switched to this.  Zero premium and Zero cost for the medications. 

 

I have received my card and signed up for an account on their website.  It shows my premium is $0.  So that is a good start. The government must give them a certain amount of money like they do for Medicare Advantage plans.  Otherwise I don't see how they could do this for ZERO $$$$.

 

I won't need a refill until February as I just had mine refilled for 3 months last week.  I figured might as well since the cost on my current plan is also $0 for the prescriptions.  My premiums aren't $0 this year but still only $9.90 and I have to pay that if I have a prescription or not. It will give me a little time to see what happens next year. 

SummerOnTheWay1
November 16, 2024

📎  [11/16/24] So @shamit , I finally sat down and READ the "printout" the LOA lady gave me.

 

Hmmm, concerned about the IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO JOIN.  🤔🤔🤔

 

Sounds like they can DENY your application.

 

And IF they do, NOT much time left to apply elswhere and hope to get approved before the 12/7/24 DEADLINE.

 

Lol, and I donot know WHY I wasted my time just now CALLING the number at bottom of "printout" - CONTACT THE PLAN DIRECTLY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.  🤣😂

 

Got a girl (youngster) who didnot speak English. Then before I hung up (was on hold forever for her to TRANSFER me), thought I was TRYING to sign up. Hmmm, told you SEVERAL times I have and was ASKING about my application.

 

Then looked at website url beside the phone number. ZERO way to find out.

 

Also, the address for my Wellcare Value Script (PDP) is a PO box in Tampa, Florida.

 

I am in Virginia.

 

[1] Do you and/or your husband have the SAME plan as I do?

 

[2] About how long AFTER signing up did you know you were APPROVED?

 

What a pain all of this is.

 

Oh, got an email from AETNA to say I can VIEW my 2025 Part D setup. I sincerely hope WELLCARE accepts my application.

 

Thanks my friend,

Nicole  👵

GailL1
Community Champion ⭐⭐⭐
November 16, 2024

@SummerOnTheWay1 wrote

iI finally sat down and READ the "printout" the LOA lady gave me.

 

Hmmm, concerned about the IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO JOIN. 

===============================

That just means that

You are 65 years old or have Medicare because of a disability

You are signed up for Medicare Parts A and B and

You have chosen to get your benefits via Traditional Medicare and NOT a Medicare Advantage plan.

 

If a person signs up for a Free standing Medicare Part D plan, it might UNENROLL them from a Medicare Advantage Plan unless it is a plan specifically for veterans with VA drug coverage.

 

Sounds like you are fine.  No premium, lots of preferred pharmacies, perhaps with only Tier One $0.00 copy meds.

 

IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna
SummerOnTheWay1
November 22, 2024

📎  [11/21/24] @shamit , help!!!

 

(1) Does this attachment say what I think = my request to CANCEL with Aetna Part D Silverscript document is available online to view? It is NOT in my document folder online.

 

(2) I did call Medicare tonight and still NOT changed.

 

(3) Neither is it on my online Medicare Account.

 

Thanks,

Nicole

 

Contributor ⭐⭐⭐
November 22, 2024

Wow!  So it hasn't changed in you Medicare Account?  I got a letter in the mail from Aetna after I get my prescription card from WellCare.  I found my disenrollment letter in the Plan Benefit Documents on the Caremark site. It says it was sent October 25.  That was the day before WellCare sent their letter.  

 

I did my change directly through the Medicare site used for looking for plans for 2025.  I clicked on the button to enroll and answered the questions there.  Printed it up and everything went well.  Maybe the person helping you didn't put the change in the day you were there.  I don't think she was in your Medicare account because you would have had to give her your password.  Maybe it takes a little longer doing it that way.  It did say it could take up to 10 days to show up in your account.  I would definitely be getting in touch with the person who helped you if it is not in your Medicare Account by Monday. 

 

Hopefully it is just a delay, since you didn't do it directly on the Medicare site.  I guess someone from Medicare would have to enter the change, which might be the delay.

 

I am glad I did it directly like we have in the past.  It was so easy.  Hopefully things are going to work out.

SummerOnTheWay1
November 25, 2024

📎  [11/25/24] Thanks to you @shamit , I KNEW where to find this!!!

 

Just checked my ONLINE Medicare Account and it has been CHANGED to Wellcare for my 2025 Part D.

 

Lol, NOW to hope they stay in business and my prescriptions are not an ARM & LEG.

 

[1] Signed up through LOA 11/14/24.

[2] Took 10 days to be processed.

Contributor ⭐⭐⭐
November 25, 2024

Glad everything is now in order for you.  I wouldn't worry about them going out of business.  We had a WellCare prescription plan back in 2020.  

SummerOnTheWay1
November 25, 2024

📎  [11/24/24] @shamit , them being headquartered in FLORIDA is NOT good. See you in 2025 when WE PICK UP our 1st Wellcare Meds. Lol, we can compare notes. I will miss my ZERO COST for my old plan (deleted).

 


[*** SHAMIT wrote: Glad everything is now in order for you.  I wouldn't worry about them going out of business.  We had a WellCare prescription plan back in 2020. ***