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October 30, 2015

Is AARP United Healthcare Medicare supplimental insurance as bad as the customer reviews say??

  • October 30, 2015
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Hi,
AARP's Medicare Supplemental Medicare Insurance sounds great... but I decided that before I purchase it I should read the reviews.

I was astounded!

 

Consumer affairs reviews were the worst I have EVER seen for any product or service from any company. People were talking about outright misrepresentation of services, copays, non-existent customer service. Representatives simply hanging up on customers, drug formularies not covering many common medications. Increasing co-pays. A litany of misrepresentation and worse.


Now I understand the Internet. You will always find people more willing to badmouth a product or service than to praise it... but I looked for positive reviews and found none...

 

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/insurance/aarp_medicare.html

 

Is it really this bad? If so why does AARP tolerate this if they are, as they claim, an organization that exists to promote the best interests of senior citizens?

 

Have I simply been looking for reviews of AARP United Healthcare supplemental insurance in the wrong places?

 

Can anyone here describe their own experience with this insurance? I live in California... but will be moving to Arizona...

 

If not AARP/UHC insurance, can anyone here recommend a company for Medicare supplemental insurance with which they have had a positive experience?

 

Thanks

 

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    134 replies

    October 30, 2015

    Hassiman,

    After reading your comments and those on that consumer affairs board that you linked, I can see that there is a good bit of confusion.

     

    I don't know how long you or those commenters have been in the Medicare program but it is made up of many different parts.

     

    Your post heading says "supplemental" insurance which is Medigap coverage and there is not too much a private insurer in such a program as Medicare Medigap (supplemental) insurance can do to mess up since each of the plans are strictly defined by their alphabet title and coverage by Medicare although state insurance regulators can watch premiums and how those premiums are set in their state.

     

    There is NO formulary medication coverage in a supplemental plan.

    The only medications which cover the part that Medicare doesn't pay are the ones described in Medicare Part B or as described if you are hospitalized or institutionalized for recooperation for a period of time.

     

    Normally with traditional Medicare, you buy a supplemental policy to augment it and then based on your medication needs, you buy a separate Medicare D policy.

     

    Of course, seniors also have the choice of participating in Medicare Part C or s Medicare Advantage plan instead of participation in traditional Medicare, a supplemental policy and a prescription drug plan. 

     

    Within a Medicare Advantage Plan the private insurer has some leeway as to the plan design but must still cover basically the same things as Medicare.  No Medigap or supplemental policy is needed with a Medicar Advantage plan.  Prescription Drug coverage may or may not be included in the Medicare Advantage plan as well as some other perks which may also be included in these Medicare Advantage (private insurer) plans.

     

    Everybody has to pick and choose the type of Medicare which is best for them in coverage and in price.

     

    some of the people responding on that consumer affairs site also seem to be confused.

     

    I suggest that you begin reading everything on Medicare.gov for clearer understanding and what type Medicare Plans are best for you and your health needs.

     

    HassimanAuthor
    Contributor ⭐
    October 30, 2015

    Thanks.... It is totally confusing which is why I decided posting a question on the AARP forum might get me some clarity.

     

     Given your reply how exactly would you define the plans AARP/United Health Care offer:

     

    https://www.aarpmedicaresupplement.com/medicare-insurance/find-a-plan-download.html

     

    It is a supplement by their definition... they say that they allow you to choose your own physician if the accept medicare.  Do I need to subscribe to medicare Part B as well as this medicare supplement?

     

    I believe that "Medicare Advantage" plans are far more limiting... and may not be portable should one move to another state.  Is that not correct?

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    October 30, 2015

    @Hassiman wrote:

    Thanks.... It is totally confusing which is why I decided posting a question on the AARP forum might get me some clarity. Given your reply how exactly would you define the plans AARP/United Health Care offer:

     

    https://www.aarpmedicaresupplement.com/medicare-insurance/find-a-plan-download.html

     

    It is a supplement by their definition... they say that they allow you to choose your own physician if the accept medicare.  Do I need to subscribe to medicare Part B as well as this medicare supplement? I believe that "Medicare Advantage" plans are far more limiting... and may not be portable should one move to another state.  Is that not correct?


    The plans at the link you provided are private Medigap plans as described by Gail in her response to you in the second comment on this thread.

     

    Medicare Advantage plans are both more limited and less limited. They are mostly HMOs and PPOs so the providers are limited to whomever is in the HMO or PPO. (This has nothing to do with Medicare; that's the way HMOs and PPOs work. Over 100,000,000 people in the U.S. not on Medicare are in HMOs and PPOs.) And you are right they are limited in a way to given counties in the U.S. (but almost every county has some to choose from) just as Medigap plans are limited in a way by state (although some Medigap plans let you take them with you if you legally change your residence). Public Part C Medicare Advantage plans are less limited in that they typically cover more services than and cost less (even though they have co-pays) than the combination of Original Medicare and a Medigap plan and all have an annual out of pocket spend limit (most Medigap plans do not)

    Arturistar
    Contributor ⭐
    November 2, 2015

    I am a 69 year old female and live in Ohio.  I have been on the United Healthcare Supplelmental Plan F insurance since I turned 65.   I have been completely happy with the plan and have not had any problems what so ever.   I like the plan because there is no paperwork involved, I can go to any doctor and hospital I want without any referrals, the customer service has been good, my doctors always get paid with no problems, and it is the most convenient of all the plans.  I have my monthly insurance fee paid electronically, so I rarely need to give my medical insurance a second thought.     I suggest you read all the information regarding all plans to educate yourself on making the best choice for you.  Their website provides lot of useful information and comparison charts.   The Supplemental Plan F is probably the most expensive, but I feel it is worth it for all the options and convenience factors.   I cannot respond to problems others have had -- this feedback is only based upon my own experience for the past 4 years.  

    Good luck to you. 

    November 2, 2015

    @Arturistar

     

    Keep paying your Plan F premiums on time cause there might be a time in the not so distant future when there will be no more Plan F - you will be grandfathered but no more Medigap Plan F will be offered.  Reason being according to the government is that it is too generous - people need some skin in the game to use their plan wisely.

    Chris7715
    Contributor ⭐
    November 2, 2015

    GailL1 wrote:
    Keep paying your Plan F premiums on time cause there might be a time in the not so distant future when there will be no more Plan F - you will be grandfathered but no more Medigap Plan F will be offered.  Reason being according to the government is that it is too generous - people need some skin in the game to use their plan wisely.

    IMO this idea the government has about Plan F is ridiculous. And to make matter worse, should Plan F become too expensive, the good old government gives no option to a person who can not pass medical underwriting except to stick with it or have no supplement at all (except in certain states which give people better options than the Feds.) My Plan F is getting very expensive but  even if I wanted to change, I could not due to a surgery that I will have to have some time in the next few years. I wrote to my US Senators about the issue of being locked in to a MedSup plan after the first six months on Medicare. One did not reply and the other said thank you for contacting me about the Affordable Care Act. Duh!!! Just reinforces my thinking that Congress does not really understand the workings of Medicare except that it costs a lot.

    Chris

    mtbranche
    Contributor ⭐
    November 4, 2015

    A couple of months ago, I had two issues to address--get a new AARP card mailed and a United Healthcare Part D Supplement ID. I went ahead and printed the online card while waiting, which had the same membership number printed on my AARP Chase Visa Rewards credit card, but when the mail arrived I had a new AARP membership number. I called United Healthcare and was informed that my old number was now my Part D Supplement insurance policy number, so I orderwd an ID card for that over the phone. Now I get loads of junk mail asking if I would like to try and qualify for a United Healthcare policy wveryday, but no insurance supplement card to go with the Medicare card I have had since August of 1989.

    Arturistar
    Contributor ⭐
    May 1, 2017

    I have had AARP/UHC Supplemental Plan F for 11 years since I retired.   I continue to be very happy with my plan.  The premiums do increase each year, but the increases are comparable to other companies and the customer service I receive is a blessing.   I recommended the same policy to my sister who retired a couple of years after I did, and she is also very happy with the plan.    I will continue to recommend this plan, and I intend to keep it for the rest of my days.  Thank you United Health Care!

     

    retiredtraveler
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    May 2, 2017

    I've only been on Medicare a year and a half and have the AARP Plan F. I'm happy. I see the doc every three months, have various blood tests, and have yet to pay for anything out-of-pocket except for meds. 

    "...Why is everyone a victim? Take personal responsibility for your life..."
    Contributor ⭐⭐
    May 3, 2017

    @Hassiman wrote:

    Hi,
    AARP's Medicare Supplemental Medicare Insurance sounds great... but I decided that before I purchase it I should read the reviews.

    I was astounded! Consumer affairs reviews were the worst I have EVER seen for any product or service from any company.

     


    This topic gets a lot of hits. Please note that the question was first asked two years ago and then a few comments were made in 2016 and about a dozen have been made since mid March 2017. Take all of them with that timing in mind as well as keep in mind that the private Medicare supplement insurance discussed here -- from AARP or anyone else -- varies from state to state in price, discount structures and what it may or may not cover. It even varies in terms if all 'Plans' -- A, C, F, G, and so forth -- are available. Some states do not even have 'Plans' that use the lettering system.  In some states there is continuous, open enrollment but in some states that is not true. You need to look only at the plans available in your states to do a comparison.

    Contributor ⭐
    May 4, 2017
    Every "letter" plan has identical coverage in all states and D.C.
    Contributor ⭐⭐
    May 5, 2017

    @diginsburg wrote:
    Every "letter" plan has identical coverage in all states and D.C.

    Your statement is accurate with some very small differences. That is not the point however of this thread. Not all private Medigap "letter plan" Medicare supplements are offered in all states and insurance companies do not even offer private "letter plan" Medigap insurance in some states (it's against those states' laws although they have similar policies to some of the letter plans--some better and some worse).

     

    Also the prices vary widely even in state and guaranteed enrollment rules differ widely across state lines even for the same letter plan from the same insurance company. Private Medigap insurance is controlled by your state of legal residence when you sign up (see Note); those policies are the only thing you should compare.

     

    Note: State of legal residence is even an issue so make sure you think that through if you intend to or might move later

    Contributor ⭐
    May 17, 2017

    YES! I am on disability and a veteran. I had back surgery last month and the doctor wrote a persription for extended release pain meds. They said they 72 hours to review for authorization and maybe up to 84 hours. I called and talked with them talked with a supervisor he said he was was sorry but they could not help. He told me to go to the ER and see if I can get an emergency supply.  The ER doesn't do that. They really didn't seem to care about anyone or there pain. All because they can take up to 72 hours. They only wanted to change what kind of medicine or the amount you can take in a day. I will be contacting aarp all of my state and federal reps. And possibly camp out in my travel trailer at there Corp office.  I am so angry with there lack of sempathy and care how much suffering a person will go through.  I will not let this go Un answered!

    Contributor ⭐⭐
    May 18, 2017

     First, i want to thank you for your service and sacrifice BUT a Medicare Supplement DOES NOT.....REPEAT DOES NOT cover medications.  No Medicare Supplement from any carrier covers medications.  So if your AARP Medicare Supplement does not approve a medication it is because by law, they are not allowed to cover them.  You have to have a Part D plan for your medications and that could be with any carrier and does not have to be with the same carrier as your Medicare Supplement.  Second, heavy pain meds now have new government imposed restrictions on them because of their value as street drugs so yes, they can be more difficult to get and yes, people are suffering because of these federal government imposed restrictions.  Instead of camping out in front of the Medicare SUPPLEMENT office, who has no power to help you, camp out in front of your Congressman or Senators office because that is where the problem lies. 

    Contributor ⭐
    September 15, 2017

    I'm starting to believe it is really bad. I just signed up with them September 31st and then trying to get a doctor. On the web-site there are many doctors connected to Cleveland Clinic (Weston FL) and it states that they all take new patients but when I called them they really do not accept new patients. I called at least 10 doctors on their list and none accepted me. When I called the Customer Service Help Line and they called the doctors they had the same experience. So none of the doctors listed and connected to the Cleveland Clinic is accepting new patient. Customer Service told me that the list is no being updated and kept current and the doctors told me the same.
    This has been a bad experience and I think I should change to another Co-insurance company.

     

    Contributor ⭐⭐
    September 15, 2017

    @w269042b wrote:

    I'm starting to believe it is really bad. I just signed up with them September 31st and then trying to get a doctor. On the web-site there are many doctors connected to Cleveland Clinic (Weston FL) and it states that they all take new patients but when I called them they really do not accept new patients. I called at least 10 doctors on their list and none accepted me. When I called the Customer Service Help Line and they called the doctors they had the same experience. So none of the doctors listed and connected to the Cleveland Clinic is accepting new patient. Customer Service told me that the list is no being updated and kept current and the doctors told me the same. This has been a bad experience and I think I should change to another Co-insurance company.

     


    You don't word it this way but yes, the best way to approach Medicare -- or any health insurance I guess -- is with the doctor. 

    • What insurance does your doctor (or do your doctors) take?
    • What about nearby hospitals?

    After those questions are answered (sounds like you do not have a doctor), then follow the charts on pages 4 and 5 in the newly released "Medicare and You, 2018" (see Note)

     

    NOTE: The new version does not seem to be on the Medicare web site yet but my spouse received a copy in the mail today so I assume they are on the way to everyone. If you only have last year's, see page 17 but it is not as easy to understand as the new information. Given your comment and depending on personal and local conditions (don't post them on this web site), you probably have to time to change for 2017. You can definitely change for 2018 during the upcoming Annual Election Period. Go see the local expert at your nearest senior center or like facility if you are unsure of what these charts mean.

    ReTiReD51
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    September 19, 2017

    Since this thread is about customer reviews of “AARP United Healthcare Medicare supplemental insurance”.  Here’s my review:

     

    I’ve had an AARP united healthcare supplement letter plan F for 3 years. I have also used it in those years and I have no complaints.

     

    Medicare approves an amount of a medical charge and pays their 80%, the charges are then automatically forwarded to United Healthcare and they pay the remaining 20%. I do nothing other than file the explanation of benefits forms that are mailed to my house (I need to sign up for the paperless EOB statements).

     

    Among my benefits I have silver sneakers, 24 hour nurse on call. Currently I pay $159 a month.

     

    Why I originally chose United Health care? Besides the good value and low cost, because they are the largest provider of both Medicare supplement and Medicare advantage plans thus they have a lot of weight to throw around when it comes to protecting my privileges as a Medicare recipient. I believe as UH goes so goes the rest.

     

    I did a lot of research and talked with a lot of average Joe’s about their health plans before I came to my conclusion about which supplement plan I wanted. I didn’t give many grains of sand to those that had an axe to grind about a senior organization. Separate the wheat from the chaff. 

     

    So far I’m very pleased with my United Healthcare Medicare supplemental coverage.

    ReTiReD51
    Contributor ⭐⭐⭐
    September 19, 2017

    Since this thread is about customer reviews of “AARP United Healthcare Medicare supplemental insurance”.  Here’s my review:

     

    I’ve had an AARP united healthcare supplement letter plan for 3 years. I have also used it in those years and I have no complaints.

     

    Medicare approves an amount of a medical charge and pays their 80%, the charges are then automatically forwarded to United Healthcare and they pay the remaining 20%. I do nothing other than file the explanation of benefits forms that are mailed to my house (I need to sign up for the paperless EOB statements).

     

    Among my benefits I have silver sneakers, 24 hour nurse on call. Currently I pay $159 a month, a bargain.

     

    Why I originally chose United Health care? Besides a good value at a low cost, they are the largest provider of both Medicare supplement and Medicare advantage plans thus they have a lot of weight to throw around when it comes to protecting my privileges as a Medicare recipient. I believe as UH goes so goes the rest.

     

    I did a lot of research and talked with a lot of average Joe’s and Jane’s about their Medicare health plans before I came to my conclusion about which supplement plan I wanted. I separated the wheat from the chaff and didn’t pay attention to those that had an axe to grind about an organization and couldn’t be honest about their benefits. 

     

    So far I’m very pleased with my United Healthcare Medicare supplemental coverage.

    Contributor ⭐
    November 11, 2017

    I am disappointed with the UNITED HEALTHCARE SUPPLEMENTAL "Cadillac" policy I have---which does not adhere to the supposed standards of AARP.  

    ---AARP's consumer advice always advocates for you to: "get a proper ID of whom you are speaking with on the phone, a first/last name, before giving out any personal information."

    ---When you telephone UNITED HEALTHCARE SUPPLEMENTAL to review your account---the person refuses to properly ID themselves, most likely because they do not want to be held accountable or responsible for the information they provide!  Additionally, as their way to cover up and defuse any accountability, you never get to speak with the same person twice.

    ---Consider that I am paying hundreds of dollars per month for UNITED HEALTHCARE SUPPLEMENTAL---this is not something I'm buying for $9.99!

    ---In contrast, I had an EXCELLENT experience with THE HARTFORD on my auto/homeowner's insurance in the past two years.  I consider their customer service to be spot on, efficient, courteous, reliable---and all of their representatives do give a proper ID, first/last name for accountability purposes.  (I recommend AARP's programs with THE HARTFORD, because besides very good customer service, they are very cost competitive.)

    ---With the AARP list of "Member Rights & Responsibilities" UNITED HEALTHCARE SUPPLEMENTAL fails miserably!  

    ---Their advertising and sales promotion claims: UNITED will pay for bills and claims which basic MEDICARE does not.  Yet, when I recently had a new vaccination for whooping cough, as recommended by my doctor and pharmacy---I was forced to pay $60---on top of my expensive   monthly premiums.  When I telephoned through the process provided on the website---some indifferent clerk with no knowledge simply said:  You have to call MEDICARE.  When I called MEDICARE---another indifferent clerk with no knowledge said:  We don't cover it!  (This was over a half hour sitting on the phone.)

    ---Why did I have to pay $60 to RITE AID for this immunization, when every month I am paying hundreds to MEDICARE, hundreds to UNITED HEALTHCARE SUPPLEMENTAL, and several hundred a year for my WALGREEN drug plan?

    ---This whole experience is a NEGATIVE TURN OFF, a source of aggravation.  These companies hope that they can intimidate you and discourage you so you just disappear and do not bother them---and they can pretend that everything is wonderful after taking your money!

     

    MEANWHILE, there is no ability to send direct e-Mails to any leadership executives at AARP like Lawrence Flanagan, President of AARP Services, to let them know what is going on here!  These executives pretend they are so sensitive to your customer service needs---yet other than sending direct mail, paying $7+ for certified mail to make sure it gets there, it is impossible to communicate with these people who run these programs, there is no way to confront them. 

     

    I would be surprised if anyone at AARP actually responds to my complaint here---their process is a joke!

     

    November 11, 2017

    @danf224027 wrote:

     

    . . . . - - -Their advertising and sales promotion claims: UNITED will pay for bills and claims which basic MEDICARE does not.  Yet, when I recently had a new vaccination for whooping cough, as recommended by my doctor and pharmacy---I was forced to pay $60---on top of my expensive   monthly premiums.  When I telephoned through the process provided on the website---some indifferent clerk with no knowledge simply said:  You have to call MEDICARE.  When I called MEDICARE---another indifferent clerk with no knowledge said:  We don't cover it!  (This was over a half hour sitting on the phone.)

    ---Why did I have to pay $60 to RITE AID for this immunization, when every month I am paying hundreds to MEDICARE, hundreds to UNITED HEALTHCARE SUPPLEMENTAL, and several hundred a year for my WALGREEN drug plan?

     

     . . . . I would be surprised if anyone at AARP actually responds to my complaint here---their process is a joke!

     


    I am not from AARP but wanted to respond to you about your Tdap vaccination-  ( tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis).

     

    Your Medicare prescription drug plan covers most immunizations/vaccinations.

    Medicare.gov - Tdap shot (tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis shot)

     

    You called it  (your drug plan) your "Walgreen Drug Plan" - You went to Rite Aid for the vaccination so we're they able to file the claim with your prescription drug plan - is Rite Aid listed as a covered pharmacy on your drug plan?  Perhaps you can call your drug plan and see if there is anyway you can recoup some of your money by filing a claim with them with a copy of the paperwork.

     

    You have original Medicare with a supplemental plan.  You should get a booklet every year entitled "Medicare and You" - this booklet is pretty thorough as to how the different parts of Medicare work in the original program and how your supplemental coverage works.    Original Medicare is your main insurance; your Medigap coverage or supplemental is just that "supplemental" to original Medicare.  Original Medicare makes all the coverage rules and determines which part covers what services.

     

    You can can always reference Medicare.gov to see if a particular service is covered and how it is covered. Medicare.gov - Is my test, item or service covered?

     

    Insurance (public or private) is only as good as our proper use of it.  Complicated at times, I know . . . . It is what it is -  since original Medicare is your main coverage - call them if you need clarification on something about coverage.