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ENOUGH WITH THE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ALREADY!!!!!

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May 7, 2023
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Yet another multiple murder using an assault rifle to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible has occurred. It has become such an everyday occurrence that the news is no longer following the story even though it is only hours after the event. It is time for the citizens of this country to call for the banning of all semi-automatic assault weapons. Other countries have done it. The grief and anguish caused by this daily onslaught of multiple deaths is affecting the psyche of the country as a whole.

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jonibee

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How many must die needlessly until a manadatory gun law is put into place..It's about time the issue is put forth once and for all ..too much blood shed to innocents. It's getting so that one is afraid to venture out of their homes and that isn't a safe haven anymore ..Driving is as bad as if someone cuts you off and you respond you don't know what the consequences will be...Guns in the wrong hands needs to be addresse NOW not shelved again....

GailL1

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@jonibee Wrote

. . . . Guns in the wrong hands needs to be addresse NOW not shelved again.

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How to tell those “wrong hands”? Since it may also have to do with a wrong mind and heart & soul.

Perhaps a tattoo in the middle of the head - “NO GUNS FOR YOU”. - easily identifiable - could even include the new photo on picture ID.

Plus if they get it by mistake somehow, it can be removed.

We have over 300 million people in the US and each one is different -

It is a difficult problem but the emphasis does need to be placed on the people behind the gun and their actions.

Solving any problem by targeting those not involved (law abiding, mentally, emotionally healthy people) seems like the wrong way to go to me but that does seem like where some want to go -

IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna

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GaPeach72

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I've read all of these posts and I feel I need to respond. The problem is not the gun...the problem is that the home and family unit has broken down. A child needs a productive mother and father in a stable home. They need to be taught right from wrong and understand there is punishment for wrong. They don't need two mothers or two fathers...what are people thinking???. When our so-called leaders took God from government building and schools that was the beginning of the end. Get their noses out of the phones and computers! They don't know how to go outside and just play anymore! Read 2 Timothy 3:1-5 in the Word of God.

GailL1

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@nctarheel

Would that be all semi-s?

Seems to me, it isn’t the gun so much as the person behind the gun and their sick action.

Focusing on the gun or even the type of gun, doesn’t do much to uplift the “psyche of the country as a whole”.

What would you do? What could be done legally and would stand up in court?

IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna

nctarheelAuthor

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@GailL1 wrote:

Seems to me, it isn’t the gun so much as the person behind the gun and their sick action.

As a fellow HONORED SOCIAL BUTTERFLY, I respect your point of view regarding this subject but the statistics just DO NOT back you up.

Gun deaths are the #1 cause of death in youth now, surpassing automobile accidents.

The "person behind the gun" argument is but a diversion from the real problem..... that military style weapons are on the streets, weapons made to kill as many people as possible, as quickly as possible.

As long as those weapons are legal, no amount of POLICING can get to an active shooter situation prior to multiple deaths.

Our country, as far as its peers, is in a category all by itself as far as multiple murder situations. Multiple murders usually committed with semi-automatic military style weapons.

Many countries have banned this type weapon and have experienced a notable reduction in mass murder. Even this country banned them for a period of time and had a noted reduction in this type of crime.

It is time to address the REAL problem.... not gun safety training......not mental health screenings......not gang violence....... it is time to ban MILITARY STYLE WEAPONRY.

GailL1

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Guns deaths come from all kinds of guns - The kids in Atlanta being killed by others about their same age, in their neighborhoods, sometimes within their own homes or even in their own beds aren’t killed by what you call military style weapons.

And normally one does not use a “military style weapons” or even a semi-automatic to commit suicide by gun which still is a lot of deaths.

I think I already asked you if you are talking about all semi’s or just the ones that are long guns?

Pew Research Center 04/26/2023 - What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

From the link ~

More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2021 than in any other year on record, according to the latest available statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). That included record numbers of both gun murders and gun suicides. Despite the increase in such fatalities, the rate of gun deaths – a statistic that accounts for the nation’s growing population – remained below the levels of earlier decades.

. . . . The gun death rate in the U.S. is much higher than in most other nations, particularly developed nations. But it is still far below the rates in several Latin American countries, according to a 2018 study of 195 countries and territories by researchers at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

. . . . the rate in the U.S. was much lower than in El Salvador (39.2 per 100,000 people), Venezuela (38.7), Guatemala (32.3), Colombia (25.9) and Honduras (22.5), the study found.

Type of guns used:

In 2020, the most recent year for which the FBI has published data, handguns were involved in 59% of the 13,620 U.S. gun murders and non-negligent manslaughters for which data is available. Rifles – the category that includes guns sometimes referred to as “assault weapons” – were involved in 3% of firearm murders. Shotguns were involved in 1%. The remainder of gun homicides and non-negligent manslaughters (36%) involved other kinds of firearms or those classified as “type not stated.”

More available at the link ~. It is very interesting; even different from what one may have thought from what we hear and see from the MSM and our leaders.

You know, @nctarheel, yes, it is bad and alarming to see all this happening repeatedly - but my view of what we need to do to fix it or try is far from you views. The gun is the instrument - the actions come from the heart, mind of the people who take this action against themselves or others.

IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna

DaveMcK

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From my perspective they go hand and grip. To have a shooting you must have both a gun and a person.

Temporary insanity or insanity are a cop-out and puts shooters back on the street at some point more often than not.

Sorry but better the shooter goes to jail than my daughter's the teacher's or my grandchildren get shot or killed.

Posted by Dave the Lighthouse Keeper

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TanviraliK598764

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Dear those who kill one day they have to pay back in the same coins.As you Sow So Shall you Reap..It is fault of the parents or manufacturing fault.

nctarheelAuthor

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@TanviraliK598764 wrote:

It is fault of the parents or manufacturing fault.

@TanviraliK598764

Again, I am not sure of the intent of your comment. Could you explain what you mean by "It is the fault of the parents or manufacturing fault."???

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postman29

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Well stated! Elections matter! The NRA shouldn't!

ChasKy53

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More and more guns = more and more gun deaths. Yes, it is a true statement. In most mass murders (which is what this topic is about), semi-automatic assault style weapons are used. Why in the world would anyone want to distract from this by bringing up individual handgun deaths in the home? Stop it, please. Countries with assault weapons bans have far less gun deaths, and most especially, mass murders. It's time to ban assault style weapons.

GailL1

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Let’s see -
Allen, Texas - 05/06/2023 - gun deaths (8)

All other places in the country - 05/06/2023 - gun deaths (54). And I am not sure if this includes suicides by gun.

Gun Violence Archives\ Last 72 Hours

@ChasKy53 wrote

Why in the world would anyone want to distract from this by bringing up individual handgun deaths in the home?

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Because all lives have meaning and all of these deaths involve guns and what is in the hearts and minds of the people who use them to harm others or themselves.

Don’t look at this problem thru such narrow binders -

IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna

DaveMcK

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Recent high-profile mass shootings in the United States

@nctarheel wrote:
Yet another multiple murder using an assault rifle to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible has occurred. It has become such an everyday occurrence that the news is no longer following the story even though it is only hours after the event. It is time for the citizens of this country to call for the banning of all semi-automatic assault weapons. Other countries have done it. The grief and anguish caused by this daily onslaught of multiple deaths is affecting the psyche of the country as a whole.

Updated: 7:43 AM CDT May 8, 2023

Associated Press

The latest high-profile mass shooting in the United States happened Saturday in Allen, Texas, where eight people were killed and seven were wounded at a busy outdoor shopping center before police killed the gunman.

The attack is the country's 22nd mass killing – in which four or more people died, not including the assailant – of 2023, according to a database maintained by The Associated Press and USA Today in partnership with Northeastern University.

Posted by Dave the Lighthouse Keeper

nctarheelAuthor

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I would think there would be more people with strong feelings about how the scourge of semi-automatic weapons of war have killed 100's of people without any legitimate movement by Congress to prevent these deaths, even in a small way. Their total inaction puts all our lives at risk.

We all go to malls, some of us go to school, some go to church, some go to festivals, some go to concerts..... all these venues have been targets in the past.

I am disappointed at the lack of response.

Are we relegated to the fact that death by assault rifle is now a normal "fact of life"?

Frozenoem

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The last time a bill passed in Congress for ban on automatic weapons it was done by a Democratic Congress, that won’t happen easily with a R majority.

There are laws in the books banning AR’s and large clips in some states.10 or 11 . CA, MA,WA,Hi,MD,NY,NJ, CT,DE are amongst the ones I can think of. DC wants a ban but, there not a state.

I think that there are 1-2 bills in Senate , that went to Congress on outlawing AR-15’s nationwide, one was by Diane Feinstein in 2022-2023.and there is another out there. Can’t remember.

Think it’s S.25

Had momentary hit email

Senate #25

Maybe do a google I can’t , in an unfriendly place for wifi.Call your Congresspeople and tell them to get off the pot. Passing is debatable due to deep pockets and NRA $$$$$$ donations to some.

Froze

And yes, after long days/nights, I'd still like to swing these hunks of glass , plastic and silicon against the nearest wall Come on retirement!

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RickB411511

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Is AARP doing anything to reach out to Congress about gun violence?

WebWiseWoman

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Just read opinion piece that to me is something we might act on...

"Opinion: America’s grandparents have the answer to gun violence" by Anne Byrn

Thanks for reading.