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GailL1
Community Champion ⭐⭐⭐
August 9, 2024

IT PAYS TO KNOW - MEDICARE MEDIGAP PLANS

  • August 9, 2024
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Recently I came upon an 86 year old beneficiary that was paying over $ 800 a month for her MediGAP plan.  The beneficiary had had this plan since 1st signing up for this coverage along with Medicare Part A & B.  Unreal, right - yes, but it could have been taken care of many years ago IF only the beneficiary was aware of the problem and the solution.

 

This beneficiary was still on one of the MediGAP plans that had been discontinued from new sales many years ago.  So needless to say, those remaining in this plan were now older, most likely sicker and fewer in number.  So, that is part 1 of the higher premiums.

 

The state where she lived had also passed some laws during past years concerning coverage under MediGAP plans - the state expanded the choices of MediGAP plans to those less than 65 years old and Medicare eligible because of a disability - this makes premiums higher in every plan affected because it is adding more risk to the insurer.  So that’s part 2 of why there was some possible increase in premiums thru the years.

 

This state had also passed a “birthday rule” expanding the ability of beneficiary’s in the state to switch MediGAP plans WITHOUT underwriting.  That’s part 3 of the increase in premiums since this too adds risk and cost to the insurers.  But this is also the solution to this beneficiary and these astronomical premiums.

 

State law governs much of how MediGAP plans work - the Feds outline the benefits of each plan codified by law but state law governs other rules which they can make - like who is covered, choice of plans if under 65 and what stipulations are set into place for being able to switch a MediGAP plan.  

 

The 86 year old beneficiary described above will exert her Medicare rights in her state and switch plans around her birthday in 2025 and will pick another one of equal or lesser value and thus cut a great deal off her monthly premiums.

 

PAYS TO KNOW - now who could have helped, when asked:  

  • a knowledgeable friend or family member
  • a Medicare plan broker
  • a SHIP volunteer or paid state worker

and none of these charge a fee to the beneficiary.  

 

 

 

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    Contributor ⭐
    August 12, 2024

    GailL1, your post highlights a crucial issue many Medicare beneficiaries face. It's alarming that someone was paying $800 monthly for a Medigap plan due to outdated coverage and lack of awareness. Your breakdown of the factors contributing to high premiums - discontinued plans, expanded coverage for under-65s, and the "birthday rule" - is informative. The case study effectively illustrates why it's essential for seniors to regularly review their Medicare coverage. Your advice about using state-specific rules to switch plans without underwriting is valuable. This post serves as an important reminder for beneficiaries to stay informed about their options and potential cost-saving opportunities.

    Contributor ⭐⭐
    August 15, 2024

     The whole thing is a racket and it is called Closing Books of Business, it should not be allowed. 

    RussellP197074
    Contributor ⭐⭐
    August 22, 2024

    This sounds like Maryland's new Birthday rule.  I've just been through this in the last few days.  I came here to warn Maryland residents about AARP/UHC's understanding of the Birthday Rule.  I have been on AARP/UHC's Plan F since 2017.  The premiums have been going ever higher, and then in June they started taking the auto premiums separately for me and my wife.  At the same time they increased the premiums a total of 17.85% over the last three months, incrementally, like I wouldn't notice!  So I sent an email to them asking about switching down to a Plan G and how much it would save in monthly premiums.  I got a response from someone saying that I don't qualify for the Birthday Rule, because I initially got on the Plan F before 7/1/2023, which is the date the Birthday Rule went into effect.  If I did want to switch to G, I could but I would have to go through underwriting.  The premiums she quoted would be about $22/month cheaper.  Going from Plan F to G would mean I have to pay $240/year deductible where I had no deductible with F.  That's $20/month mathmatically.

     

    I filed a complaint with the MD AG's office so they could look into the matter and provide clarification to either me or AARP or both of us. In the meantime I contacted the SHIP people in my county and I have an appointment to go over options with other companies providing GAP policies that according to SHIP (via telephone) would cost mush less than AARP/UHC.

     

    AARP may delete this post, so copy it if you want to be able to see it.  If they don't delete it, I will be back to update it if and when I hear from the state or AARP or make a change with SHIP.

    RussellP197074
    Contributor ⭐⭐
    August 22, 2024

    I forgot to add that every time AARP had raised our premiums, they used the excuse that we were paying a discounted rate, and the discounts were decreasing, not that the premiums were increasing.  The discounts were supposed to be introductory in nature.  After 7 years?  I doubt it.  

    Contributor ⭐⭐
    August 22, 2024

     Please keep us informed of your progress, hopefully Maryland and doesn't let AARP/UHC get away with it. I trusted AARP to look out for seniors when I signed up for their policy, what a huge mistake I made. 

    GailL1
    GailL1Author
    Community Champion ⭐⭐⭐
    August 27, 2024

    @JamesH377174 wrote:

     Please keep us informed of your progress, hopefully Maryland and doesn't let AARP/UHC get away with it. I trusted AARP to look out for seniors when I signed up for their policy, what a huge mistake I made. 


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    My OP does not have anything to do with AARP or AARP/UHC - what I am trying to say is that beneficiaries or their appointed decision-makers need to stay abreast of changes and act accordingly when need be.  OR have someone trusted from the list I provided of professionals that can help them determine their options.

     

    In the case of this beneficiary, it only took (1) knowledgeable person to fix this mess - in fact, the beneficiary, since she can apply afford it,  decided on a HIGH DEDUCTIBLE Plan G as her new coverage and has reduced her premiums from over $ 800 a month to $ 100 a month with a (2024) $ 2800 deductible.  She is very happy.

     

    Medicare.gov - Choosing A Medigap Policy (2024) 

     

     

    IT‘S ALWAYS SOMETHING . . . . .. . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna
    Community Champion ⭐
    August 23, 2024

    @GailL1 Very good advice.