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Devil Woman- Marty Robbins. So this guy cheats on his (I’m guessing) wife with another woman. He confesses his cheating and she takes him back. He now turns to the other woman and calls her a Devil Woman and tells her to leave him alone. He actually call her evil, with irresistable, almost black-magical charms. The problem here is that he is absolving himself of any responsibility for his infidelity, choosing to fully blame the other woman, as if he had no free will in this deal.

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About "Frankie and Johnny"--

it seems like a lot of the older traditional folk songs were stories about violent crimes of passion or injustice. Today we see this kind of stuff live on social media from across the planet on almost a daily basis, but not that long ago these stories were written in song and passed along, communicating the depths of human condition, or maybe as cautionary tales. 

 

I read somewhere that Neil Young had been listening to a lot of these old folk songs when he wrote Down By the River. I also read that he wrote this song, along with Cinnamon Girl and Cowgirl in the Sand, all in one day while he was in bed delirious with a 103 degree fever. Some people think this song is about heroin. In one interview Neil Young said, "There's no real murder in it. It's about blowing your thing with a chick. ... It's a plea... a desperation cry." But another time he introduced the song at a concert by describing it as being about a murder by "a guy who had a lot of trouble controlling himself." 

 

"Down by the river I shot my baby. Down by the river. Dead, oh, shot her dead." Seems pretty clear to me!

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Wow! I haven't checked this thread for a while. You guys have come up with a LOT of creepy songs. 

 

@MaVolta Maybe the person who wrote the USA Today article saw our thread & got the idea haha 😂. The creepiest thing on their list is the former Kiss member who co-wrote “Goin’ Blind” (about a 16 year old!) who was convicted of possession of child pornography and is currently serving a six-year prison term. Yikes!

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With “Frankie and Johnny” we see role reversal. Johnny (the man) cheats on Frankie (the woman). Frankie blows away Johnny with her .44 (coincidentally the same caliber gun used by Stagger Lee when he shot poor Billy). One of the sing’s final lines suggests that Johnny had it coming....something like there is no good in man.

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@1968Hoya46 wrote:

“Delilah”, by Tom Jones. Tom was in great voice on this song, but the subject matter is

troublesome. It seems Delilah (even her name has negative Biblical meaning as a betrayer) was this guy’s “woman”, or so he thought. Walking past her house one night he sees her silhouetted on the window shade in romantic embrace with another man. So, our guy waits there until morning and sees ther other man leave the house. He knocks on the door and confronts Delilah. She laughs at him. He “felt the knife in his hand” and “she laughed no more”. As with most domestic violence cases, the man (it’s usually a man) tries to distance himself from culpability. For example, instead of admitting that he sat there all night with a knife fully intending to kill her come morning, he says that he “felt the knife in his hand”, as if it magically appeared there. Again, even when asking for her forgiveness he justifies his deed by blaming her (“I just couldn’t take any more”)(of your two-timing).

 

Sorry for being long-winded. This song is less about me-too and more about domestic violence. Whether it would be recorded and sold today is anybody’s guess.

 


This song also brings to mind Hey Joe, a song originally done by the Leaves, made famous by Jimi Hendrix, and covered by many.

 

Yes, I did, I shot her,
you know I caught her messin' 'round,
messin' 'round town.
Uh, yes I did, I shot her
you know I caught my old lady messin' 'round town.
And I gave her the gun and I shot her!


    

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@MsStretch wrote:

Lot of good rock & roll and fun songs came out of the '60s, but let's face it -- some of it would not stand under the scrutiny of #MeToo.  (After all, back then, it was all about if it had a good beat and you could dance to it.)

 


Ever listen to some rapper lyrics or look them up when the lyrics are "bleeped" out on a nationally televised events?  I haven't heard anything from #MeToo on this disrespect of women - sometimes it is not even just "implied". And ya know what, it is not just coming from male performers either.

 

Isn't this current day music also about the beat, the rhythm and the rhymes?

* * * * It's Always Something . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna
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“Delilah”, by Tom Jones. Tom was in great voice on this song, but the subject matter is

troublesome. It seems Delilah (even her name has negative Biblical meaning as a betrayer) was this guy’s “woman”, or so he thought. Walking past her house one night he sees her silhouetted on the window shade in romantic embrace with another man. So, our guy waits there until morning and sees ther other man leave the house. He knocks on the door and confronts Delilah. She laughs at him. He “felt the knife in his hand” and “she laughed no more”. As with most domestic violence cases, the man (it’s usually a man) tries to distance himself from culpability. For example, instead of admitting that he sat there all night with a knife fully intending to kill her come morning, he says that he “felt the knife in his hand”, as if it magically appeared there. Again, even when asking for her forgiveness he justifies his deed by blaming her (“I just couldn’t take any more”)(of your two-timing).

 

Sorry for being long-winded. This song is less about me-too and more about domestic violence. Whether it would be recorded and sold today is anybody’s guess.

 

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Lot of good rock & roll and fun songs came out of the '60s, but let's face it -- some of it would not stand under the scrutiny of #MeToo.  (After all, back then, it was all about if it had a good beat and you could dance to it.)

 

Anybody remember Every Mother's Son who did C'mon Down To My Boat, Baby?  (Every mother's son, huh?  Woman LOL  Sort of an anomaly, wouldn't you say?)

 

She sits on the dock a fishin' in the water uh, huh
I don't know her name she's the fisherman's daughter uh, huh
Come on down to my boat baby
Come on down where we can play
Come on down to my boat baby
Come on down we'll sail away.
She smiled so nice like she wants to come with me uh, huh
But she's tied to the dock and she can't get free
Come on down to my boat baby...
Fish all day sleep all night
Father never lets her out of his sight
Soon I'm gonna have to get my knife and cut that rope, cut that rope
Then we can go fishin' in my little red boat
Make you happy in my little red boat
so come on down to my boat baby.


    

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Skinny Legs-   Joe Tex first admonishes a guy for being embarrassed that “his woman” has skinny legs. He then tries to see if anybody will take her, skinny legs and all. No apparent takers.

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Don't get me wrong, I am a huge AC/DC fan, but sensitive #MeToo-ers might have a problem with some of their songs.

 

Like You Shook Me All Night Long:

 

She was a fast machine, she kept her motor clean
She was the best **bleep** woman that I ever seen
She had the sightless eyes, telling me no lies
Knocking me out with those American thighs
Taking more than her share, had me fighting for air
She told me to come, but I was already there
'Cause the walls start shaking, the Earth was quaking
My mind was aching, and we were making it

[Chorus] And you shook me all night long
Yeah, you shook me all night long

Working double-time on the seduction line
She's one of a kind, she's just a-mine all mine
Wanted no applause, just another course
Made a meal outta me, and come back for more
Had to cool me down to take another round
Now, I'm back in the ring to take another swing
That the walls were shaking, the Earth was quaking
My mind was aching, and we were making it.

And, of course, Big Balls.



    

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