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Recent premium increase for United Healthcare coverages
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Recent premium increase for United Healthcare coverages
I am absolutely appalled at the just announced price increases for United Healthcare coverage. The increase in RX (over 90%) announced during the last open enrollment was enough force me to make a change and now the supplemental health coverage increase (22%) is astounding. As their primary selling agent, you should anticipate my changing to another, more affordable carrier at my first opportunity and hopefully a boatload of others doing the same. Shameful, unjustified, heartless, and ridiculous. Shame on both you and United Healthcare.
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Same here. I just today learned that my and my husband’s UHC Rx premiums increased by 92%—from $40.90 to $78.80 EACH, effective Jan 1 2024! I do not at all remember being notified about this increase because it strikes me that a 92% increase of ANYTHING is certainly something I’d take note of. Too, I was never notified that I had an outstanding balance until I received an e-mail to that effect just last week. This is beyond shameful—it feels criminal and I am appalled that AARP is stands behind this.
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In the late summer or early fall of 2023, you should have gotten a 2024 edition of your free standing UHC RX plan Explanation of Benefits - it would have covered all the 2024 changes to the plan including premium increases, new deductibles, formulary changes - these plans are only issued for 1-year at a time since changes are made each year and you are given an Open Enrollment period during Oct - Dec to change plans based on your most current needs.
2024 was the beginning of several legislative changes - You are going to be getting more from these Part D plans like monthly supply of insulin for $ 35 with no deductible, like a declining out of pocket expense that begins in 2025 - like restricting the amount of premium increases beginning in 2025 -
If this plan does not fit you and your needs - then change to one that does in the fall of 2024.
Are you low income? If so, look up the income threshold in your state for the program of “EXTRA HELP” and apply for it. SSA.gov- EXTRA HELP
I wrote this in this same thread on 03/18/2024 - it explains many of these new benefits - so yes, if you get more, you pay more.
As a beneficiary of a Medicare Prescription Drug Plan, the government has negotiated several really big cost saving changes that will go into effect in 2024, 2025 and 2026 and also a restriction of how much premiums can go up beginning in the following years. So as a result of these changes, the insurers are doing some adjustments in their premiums for this year to get ready for this additional coverage they are going to have to bear come beginning in 2025.
Did you think that these things would just occur without cost?
It’s also been in the regular MSN
Where your money is involved, pay attention to the government - you don’t get anything for FREE.
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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My mother was enrolled in the UHC prescription plan paying $77 a month. In the process of switching her coverage from one state to another (an increase of approximately 10%) I inadvertently enrolled her in an advantage plan. I contacted Medicare and explained the error. A very helpful representative was able to switch her to traditional Medicare and retain UHC. We discussed her prescription plan. The rep was appalled my mother was paying a high premium ($77 per month). We switched to Wellcare for $120 the first year she was enrolled, the second year it was free. Same coverage as her UHC plan. Now I'm with UHC since May 2024. The increase effective June, 2024 was a total surprise as when I enrolled, the UHC rep never informed me of an increase beginning June 2024. In addition the Wellcare plan is free. I recently received an IRMMA letter increasing my Plan B premium by 28% and I am now responsible for $12.90 a month for Wellcare which isn't paid to the company, it's paid to Medicare. My second month of retirement has produced an additional 35% decrease in my monthly income, increases in medical coverage premiums. Anyone ever get a 35% decrease is their monthly SSA income? A very disappointing welcome to retirement!!!
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IRMAA (Income Related Monthly Adjusted Amount) Part B and Part D premium surcharges are accessed on beneficiaries that make a higher income - I have long paid them as well as many other beneficiaries. If your IRMAA premium surcharges are based on excludable life event, you can ask for a reconsideration on form SSA-44- remember it is based on the tax return (2) years back or longer if that is the only one available.
https://www.ssa.gov/medicare/lower-irmaa
Beneficiaries should review their Part D Medicare coverage EVERY year and make sure the plan they pick covers the specific meds they are taking because not every plan covers the exact same meds - the insurers are required to cover (2) meds in most all the various med classes and ALL of them in (5) classes -
So coverage of the med is 1st - then look at the cost of the meds, the premiums and whether or not there is a deductible. Keep in mind, you don’t have to use the Med D plan if you can get the med cheaper in some other way - but you do need the med D plan to avoid late sign up penalties.
Medicare also rates insurers by star ratings.
If you are on Original Medicare with ore without a Medicare supplemental plan (MEDIGAP) then you have to look for a standalone Med D plan - most Medicare Advantage plans today combine the (2) coverages - Medicare Medical & Prescription Drug program (MAPD)
If a beneficiary has problem picking plans for themselves - they can contact a SHIP agent in their state or go thru an Independent Medicare Insurance Broker - an agent that writes for a lot of different Medicare insurance insurers - they can compare lots of different plans and explain the coverage options. - A captive agent only writes for one Medicare Insurance company insurer - like UHC.
Please, Please, Please beneficiaries - just understand your options and pick the best one for your needs and pocketbook - and understanding Medicare - the whole program will be a benefit to you too.
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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Bet if you read through your EOC (Explanation of Coverage) you might see that they might be able to raise premium twice a year, sometimes even more.
That isn’t regulated at the Federal level. State, maybe.
Everbody needs to understand that MediGAP policies are gonna go up, Up and UP because of what they are based upon - Medical cost of a senior group.
- Goes up in rating method
- Goes up when Medicare coverage expands especially when the expansion involves very costly treatments, Part B meds, etc.
- Goes up when auxiliary benefits increase in cost
- Goes up with utilization of Medicare coverage
- Goes up when the beneficiary is exposed to a declining premium discount
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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In addition to the above reasons for premium increases, I would add: a) the hefty legal fees involved in fighting an antitrust lawsuit and b) the one billion plus in royalties paid to a sponsoring organization. It rolls downhill... When I use medicare.gov to look up the various G plans offered for my state, it clearly states either "AARP - UnitedHealthcare Insurance Company" or "AARP - UnitedHealthcare Insurance Company of America". The policies are not simply "United Health Care". AARP and UHC are clearly tied together to the benefit of both and, sadly, to the detriment of the rest of us.
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I would imagine that for a company as big as the United Healthcare Group that they get a pretty good deal on their legal expenses - and since the government has decided not to take some or all of the lawsuits forward, I bet they are please.
The royalties paid to AARP for use of their branded name has been going on for so long, it is just a way of doing business - but yes, it would also add to the cost of the plan but only as an incidental. Larger risk associated cost add more like the rating method and the risk which some states may add to them by offering added periods of switching plans without underwriting. Only a few states actually offer added guaranteed rights for picking up a Medigap plan after the initial enrollment period - but these states would also have higher premiums.
Yes, as I pointed out in some other thread, affiliated company names are a way of dividing up what benefits each plan would have within a specific state.
For Medigap plans like Plan G - (this is NC)
AARP/UHC Insurance Company writes Medigap plans that have added benefits, like wellness. Whereas,
AARP/ UHC Insurance Company of America writes Medigap plans that offer some type of discount.
So the exact name of the company that writes the plan, as well as the state of origin, is important in setting things like premiums.
(i am doing this from memory - so this might be backwards)
AARP is only the beneficiary of the royalties for the branded (registered) name of AARP. This is a licensing deal that AARP Services, Inc. has put together for benefit of the organization and its mission. This registered and branded name has a value - and yes, they do capitalize on it. But they have NO say in the insurance company’s way of doing business nor the cost of premiums -
The use of the AARP’s branded name is purely for making money and it has nothing to do with the AARP as an organization giving the company or its benefits a seal of approval. Maybe it should but legally it doesn’t - read any disclosure and it all says the same thing - it is only a royalty paid for use of the branded name.
I am sorry that people think otherwise - and I do understand but it is what it is - and only that - Do they do this on purpose, propagating the notion that it is their insurance company or that it has been somehow stamped with their seal of approval - MAYBE. But that’s because of the way people view it - not because it is this way. Which it isn’t -
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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The use of the AARP name isn't solely for branding. We are required to have a membership to buy their plans. It then makes us captive to AARP too (although we can drop AARP any year we aren't buying a new UHC plan of any sort). In my state they are the only community rated plan which was important to me so I had to drink the koolaid.
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I just retired and began Medicare coverage in September 2023. A Medicare Benefits Consultant advised me to select AARP United Healthcare as my supplemental coverage. My initial premium was reasonable; however, after less than eight months as a plan member, I received yesterday from AARP United Healthcare a letter about an increase to my Medicare Supplement Plan G. I am appalled at the huge increase. My premium increased more than 14%, an increase of 24.28 per month. If I want to switch Medicare supplement providers, I would have to go through underwriting. I certainly feel trapped by this situation and am unsure what to do next. If AARP United Healthcare keeps increasing the cost each year at such a high rate, I will soon be priced out of getting supplemental health care coverage. I am appalled that AARP, an organization that I respect, would allow United Healthcare to get away with taking advantage of seniors who are on fixed incomes.
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5 years ago i went with aarp UHC because they were community based. Everything I read said thats a little higher cost monthly but because they don't raise due to your age every year like all the other companys , in the long term they will be the most cost effective. So when I am 80 they are not charging me excessively because I am 80. With this last hike mine went from $136 to $ 153 a month for plan n and i am 70 . Thought of changing scares me because they are most likely age related or attained age. I know that I could not afford those rate increases of inflation and me getting older. .so I guess I suck it up and hope it doesn't get too crazy.
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OR you might live in a state where any change to your MediGAP plan - can only be done if their is underwriting -
Your state is the one that make the rules about changing MediGap policies so see what the rules are in your state - dept of insurance or whatever they call it in your state usually has detailed info.
Or if you give me your state - I will look it up.
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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I am in total agreement with you, Rita. This is beyond ridiculous. It appears to me that caring for retired seniors is not a priority in the U.S. anymore. In Pennsylvania where I live, I have been on a 7-year waiting list for affordable senior housing In Montgomery County. I am forced to move in with my sister temporarily until my name comes up on the list because I simply cannot afford this place that I'm in right now where they nickel and dime you to death.
They have no regard for seniors on fixed incomes. My town was once full of factories and warehouses...they are now being gutted and replaced with luxury apartments! Why couldn't they add extra senior housing instead? They are getting subsidies from the state and the feds. Also, the post I made about AARP United Healthcare's premium increase for 2024 had me fuming. We seniors have worked our butts off (I have worked since I was 16, I'm now soon to be 74) and no one, not even AARP will send a message to these Medicare supplement insurers that for AARP to attach their name to their insurances then they need to charge reasonable premiums for those of us with little to no savings and limited retirement resources. This is a real slap in the face!
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Speaking of the Housing which you commented upon -
Do you know how those Senior Independent Affordable Housing Complexes came about and why few are being built at a time when they are needed so badly?
I posted a rather detailed piece about them in this Community’s HOUSING Board
https://community.aarp.org/t5/Housing/Senior-Housing-Market-Subsidized-Section-8/td-p/2546929
The reason why they are in such low numbers in availability is:
1. this program was found to be too expensive for the non-profits building and servicing them - especially in the areas where many seniors want to live because along with affordable comes accessible.
The price of land escalated as well as the price of construction and maintenance - so it is hard to find a good place for them without breaking everybody involve banks, so to speak.
2. the income shift of seniors in these units has gone from subsidized to more Section 8 - as the income of seniors to their expenses has escalated - they are poorer and poorer. But on the other hand, the upkeep of these places have escalated. Those that paid market rent at one time are now at the subsidized level and those that were only subsidized are now Sect 8 along with the others already at this level.
3. we are living longer - thus seniors stay in these places forever and a day. With the wait list getting longer and longer.
Got a solution ?
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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GAP insurance premiums for Medicare is based on a lot of different things - MEDICAL inflation is but just one. The coverage extensions to some relatively expensive treatments covered under Medicare could be another [like the new Alzheimer’s treatment coverage]. The expanded Part B coverage of insulin for pumps could be another. When more benefits are added, the GAP coverage is there to pick up their part of the increase in coverage benefits.
Then there could also be a reduction of any premium discount which you might be under and of course, the rating method of your plan. I believe that many UHC Medigap plans have such a declining discount.
Or if there is an added benefit in your policy outside of the standard federally mandated coverage, that part of the premium could also go up - like for gym participation or something else - cause these are outside of the plan coverage and are extra benefits.
I can’t tell you specifically why it went up - maybe your state can or the insurer.
However, here is a notice that UHC sent to the state of Vermont in November of 2023 discussing their increase premiums for 2024 MediGAP plans -
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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We're sorry to hear you’re having trouble with United Healthcare, @RitaC373420. We are listening and would like the chance to help as soon as possible. Please visit https://help.aarp.org/s/article/contact-aarp to chat, text, or speak with a representative who can get you in touch with our Member Relations team. - Diana G.
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The same for me when I first started with AARP my supplemental plan G with United Healthcare was $145 a month. It's gone up several times since and most recently I was told It is going up to $259.58. This is outrageous! My sister who is four years older than me has Plan G for $206 a month with Aetna. Can AARP do anything about these crazy rising costs with United Healthcare for our supplemental plans? I am considering just going with another company altogether if they give me a cheaper supplemental plan I rely on my Social Security primarily for my income and this is just too expensive. Please reply
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@JaniceS86319 wrote:I am considering just going with another company altogether if they give me a cheaper supplemental plan I rely on my Social Security primarily for my income and this is just too expensive.
Why are you only considering it? Just do it. Every month you wait is another month of paying $260 when you can be paying $206 instead.
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Medicare Supplemental plans increase in premiums based on several things
- the rating method used - community rated, attained age or issue age
- the overall usage utilization of the plan IOW, the companies loss ration - meaning more claims than premium %
- medical inflation
States are the governmental entity that determine many of the rules within a Medigap plan and the more liberal their rules, the most costlier the plan premiums because that affect the risk in the plan. So, depending upon your state it may be easier to switch but in most states you will have to go thru medical underwriting in order to switch.
Your state's dept of insurance or their SHIP (State Health Insurance Plans) assistance office will be able to tell you the laws in your state as it applies to switching plans or a local Independent Medicare Insurance Broker.
AARP is not an insurance company. They work with UHC only in a mutual beneficial manner - earning income from the royalty use of the name "AARP". They have nothing to say about the running of the company especially premium setting since that depends on the companies numbers in the cost of supplying insurance benefit.
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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As a beneficiary of a Medicare Prescription Drug Plan, the government has negotiated several really big cost saving changes that will go into effect in 2024, 2025 and 2026 and also a restriction of how much premiums can go up beginning in the following years. So as a result of these changes, the insurers are doing some adjustments in their premiums for this year to get ready for this additional coverage they are going to have to bear come beginning in 2025.
Did you think that these things would just occur without cost?
It’s also been in the regular MSN
Where your money is involved, pay attention to the government - you don’t get anything for FREE.
Roseanne Roseannadanna
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I just received notice from UHC that my Medigap plan premium is increasing 4/1/2024. When I signed up for the plan during open enrollment, the premium was slightly higher than last years. How can they increase the premium 4 months later, when open enrollment has ended and I cannot change plans until next year? This is bait and switch. I informed AARP and I'm contacting the Govt next.
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Laura, I totally agree with you. I was shocked when I received a brand new account statement in the mail indicating my premium is increasing from $170.72 a month to $196.34... a $26.34 per month increase. This blindsided me as well. And we're stuck with the high rate until the next open enrollment. At the same time, what other insurer is going to be any better? I'm panicking.
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