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Death Before Social Security

At age 63, my father in law had a sudden stroke and died.  He was an unmarried man, with no dependents.  He had worked 6 days a week, made good money - and paid plenty into SS all his life.  Being only 63, he had not applied for SS - so here was a fund into which he had contributed all his life - and he died -  so neither he, nor any relatives, friends, heirs would ever see one cent of what he had coming.  Anyone see anything wrong with this process?  How many others have been in the same boat?  Perhaps the rules have changed?  This was many years ago.

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  ".....How many others have been in the same boat?.....:.


I was curious to check this out. One study showed 6% passed before collecting. Don't have any idea what percentage of that may have gone to survivors.

  Also read that 42% of males, and 48% of females, claim benefits at age 62.  And 50% claim before full retirement age. I didn't realize that half of SS recipients are taking reduced benes. 


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@retiredtraveler wrote:



  Also read that 42% of males, and 48% of females, claim benefits at age 62.  And 50% claim before full retirement age. I didn't realize that half of SS recipients are taking reduced benes. 




Yes, I read that too - 

Especially now that the FRA is creeping up -

The thing about it is that as the FRA is going up, the early retirement age of 62 has not changed.  Thus if people begin drawing at 62, their early benefit is being reduced more and more as their FRA increases.


I know some people feel this is what they need to do - but it should be the choice of last resort, if possible, rather than their 1st choice as many people do.



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It happens - how often, I don't know -

Survivors benefits can be extended to one's widow/widower or to a long ago divorced spouse under certain conditions, dependent children or other dependent people and sometimes even to parents.


However, as the fund goes, you do have to think of it as insurance not a retirement program.  


Think of the Greatest Generation women who never worked outside the home - when their husbands retired - he got his share and they got 50% of that - he paid no extra into the program during his working years.  Same thing with Medicare, doesn't matter if you ever worked as long as one of the spouses in the relationship did.


Social Security, the benefit, isn't figured based on how much you paid into the program, as long as you and your employer did participate - it is figured on your wages during your 35 years of working.


Insurance is based on making it - it is a gamble - you could have to use it earlier if you become disabled or die before you get any of the old age benefit.


A retirement program would have a designated beneficiary of the owner choice - 

Not so with Social Security - the insurance benefit just flows to somebody else in the program that meets the eligibility requirement.


My Dad died when he was 58 - he had worked long and hard (brickmason).

Never got any Social Security benefit - but my mother, who never worked, began getting his Survivors (Widows) benefit at age 60 and continued to get it for almost 30 years.


It's Always Something . . . . Roseanna Roseannadanna
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