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And since the bone altering fluoridation program is accepted for the presumed benefit to teeth, then salmon collapses are also part of the deal. . 

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Most all Californians I know don't care that much to lose local salmon in their diets. We are not like Alaska where many peoples' and animals' sustenance depends on salmon such as many native tribes, orcas, and other marine life. 

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I should know something already?

You honestly think that CalEpa has the power to demand the city of sacrmento stop discharging its wastewater into the Sacramento River and to build all new infrastructure to dump it somewhere else? And for some complaining salmon fishing companies?

And you say it's that simple? Be my guest. 

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For a city to stop discharging into nearby rivers would cost a veritable fortune to reroute waste through constructed facilities and pipes etc. Once an estabolished practice exists its nearly impossible to get a city to stop. They would rather argue the law, get exemptions, and push papers than to construct all new waste facilities. This is old news. 

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In a heartbeat? Please.

Cities have historically discharged treated wastewater into the rivers. That is why no one skis in Needles and why soap suds line the hanks of the colorado river after he discharge pipe. And calepa does absolutely nothing to fight this longstanding city practice  n CA. 

A heartbeat? Come on

 

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Every city that discharges any contaminant into public water supplies,  regardless of state regulations, must  have an NPDES permit to do so. The problem for continuous discharging of fluoride, an EPA recognized contaminant in water,  Is that water districts do not regard fluoride when intentionally added, as a discharged item. So they don't think they need the permit for fluoride and no one  enforces the requirement for fluoride if the fluoride and its other contaminants was done intentionally (as mandated by CA law).

Again, why is it my fault that I cannot get calepa to forbid fluoridated water discharges into rivers (or water systems intended for consumption)? 

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CalEpa may he tough by some standards but it is not tough when it comes to fluoridation. Most cities near rivers in CA and Nevada dump treated wastewater into  rivers. I've complained but to no avail. Now fluoridatjon makrd the practice more problematic because the sanitizing does not remove fluoride. 

The fact is that CalEpa will do and has done absolutely nothing but support cities that fluoridate   their citizens because nor to do so would be taking on the U. S. CDC. and calepa wont do it. We have tried to get them to for many years. 

 If you think you can achieve something with them then please do so. 

 

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And the EPA and state agencies under it decide maximum contaminant levels for humans .not for salmon. No one knows how much arsenic and lead and other contaminants in combination that are in fluoridation chemicals that are needed before salmon runs collapse. The EPA doesn't have the data to act on fluoridated wastewater for salmon

 

 

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Municipalities are not allowed to write their own discharge permits.  It's that simple. 

 

If there was any evidence that municipal discharge from a fluoridated community posed any threat to the environment, the State would have the authority to shut it down.

 

I gather from your answer that you have not contacted the California Environmental Protection Agency or the DTSC with your grave concerns.  These are some of the toughest environmental agencies in the world, and you haven't taken advantage of them?  

 

Why is that?

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As long as the EPA prohibits discharges of known regulated contaminants, such as arsenic and lead, cities agree to comply. But when it was decided not to prohibit infusions of the fluoride EPA contaminant at an allowed level,  then cities decided on their own how to act. Some allow fluoridation, others dont. The state mandate convinced many to comply. But just like the titanic, passengers followed instructions from the crew but only until it became dangerous and the  it was everyone had to defend oneself and family. Similarly for fluoridation cities must and most do go on their own. 

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