Refresh your driving skills with the AARP Smart Driver online course! Use promo code THANKS to save 25 percent.

Reply
Frequent Social Butterfly
1
Kudos
530
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

530 Views
Message 1051 of 1,430

RS, your comment:  "This is what happens when cities let dental officials control what is allowed in public waterways."

 

Cities have nothing to do with it.

 

The State of California issues Discharge Permits.  If you have a concern you should contact the California Environmental Protection Agency.  Specifically, you should contact the DTSC.  You should know this already.  

 

If you do know this, please provide the text of the letter you sent to that office, and I would be interested in seeing the reply that was sent to you.

Report Inappropriate Content
1
Kudos
530
Views
Regular Social Butterfly
2
Kudos
542
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

542 Views
Message 1052 of 1,430

It is insane that a "river" this small has a discharge tube that dumps the city's sanitized but fluoridated waste water into it. This is what happens when cities let dental officials control what is allowed in public waterways. The late Dr. A. A. Benson said this also, after he learned that San Diego began fluoridating the city even though citizens voted twice against it. Dr. Benson discovered the carbon fixation reaction in plant photosynthesis, the Calvin Benson cycle. He is sorely missed. 

Richard Sauerheber, Ph.D.
Report Inappropriate Content
2
Kudos
542
Views
Regular Social Butterfly
1
Kudos
739
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

739 Views
Message 1053 of 1,430

We just crossed the Sacramento River where it enters the city. As I said, most anyone can throw a stone across it since it is very small for a river. Industrial fluoride chemicals are still discharged by the city into it continuously  and the former thriving salmon fishing industry remains nonexistent. And what else would one expect? 

Richard Sauerheber, Ph.D.
Report Inappropriate Content
1
Kudos
739
Views
Regular Social Butterfly
2
Kudos
760
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

760 Views
Message 1054 of 1,430

This is the last day of my month long travel through British Columbia and Alaska. I'm happy to say that all of B. C. is now fluoridation free. All of Alaska also is except for Anchorage which adds industrial fluoride materials into water to treat citizens in what constitutes a bone fluoridation program. . I provided their city assembly copies of the new book chapter on fluoride toxicology. The group Fluoride Free Alaska wrote several thank you's.

It is time to understand that truth is true and facts are immutable. Stop fluoridating U.S. citizens. I am not interested in retribution for this but simply expect the madness to stop. Our children need help, not an artificial  burden to avoid. 

 

Richard Sauerheber, Ph.D.
Report Inappropriate Content
2
Kudos
760
Views
Highlighted
Regular Social Butterfly
1
Kudos
830
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

830 Views
Message 1055 of 1,430

Yes. The largest  study we have by teotia and teotia, a 30 year effort, indicated the lowest caries incidence for people in a high calcium low fluoride area, and the highest incidence was in a high fluoride low calcium area. There is no doubt that calcium builds strong teeth, not fluoride. And what else would one expect when enamel is a calcium phosphate matrix devoid of fluoride?

We need to teach the truth not only for seniors but for kids to protect their future. That's the key reason for me  to explain the facts. I have protected my grandson so far but it is not easy. In a fluoridated country 

Richard Sauerheber, Ph.D.
Report Inappropriate Content
1
Kudos
830
Views
Frequent Social Butterfly
2
Kudos
828
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

828 Views
Message 1056 of 1,430

Richard,

 

The evidence I've seen indicates calcium and magnesium have a greater effect on caries than fluoride.  Just looking at fluoride is far too simplistic.  Other minerals need to be evaluated.  However, regardless of fluoride between 0.1, 0.7 and 1 ppm, cavity rates were at 1.7 per child.  

 

CDC, ADA and proponents of fluoridation thing fluoride is a magic element unaffected by other chemicals, everyone benefits and everyone needs more and no one is at risk.  

 

That kind of simplistic thinking might be good for first grade, but not science.

 

Bill Osmunson DDS MPH

Report Inappropriate Content
2
Kudos
828
Views
Regular Social Butterfly
3
Kudos
857
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

857 Views
Message 1057 of 1,430

Sorry. I recall now the original message was not sent because The Skagway library wifi did not allow full access to the AARP site.

I arrive home Tuesday and would have access to a computer instead of fingerling a cell phone 

I don't think any officials who could change city fluoridation are reading this anyway. 

 

Richard Sauerheber, Ph.D.
Report Inappropriate Content
3
Kudos
857
Views
Regular Social Butterfly
0
Kudos
884
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

884 Views
Message 1058 of 1,430

 Im in Tacoma now. It was posted when in Skagway AK so that was on 8/14.

Richard Sauerheber, Ph.D.
Report Inappropriate Content
0
Kudos
884
Views
Frequent Social Butterfly
0
Kudos
898
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

898 Views
Message 1059 of 1,430

RS:  "I answered the math argument earlier. Please read it."

 

Response:  Please provide the timestamp of that comment so that I may read it.  I must have missed it.

Report Inappropriate Content
0
Kudos
898
Views
Regular Social Butterfly
3
Kudos
920
Views

Re: Fluoride - Demand AARP Take Action

920 Views
Message 1060 of 1,430

I've discussed the poisonings with scientists still here. Dr. krook has passed  away. I answered the math argument earlier. Please read it.

Altitude may have been  a factor too but F use in extremely soft water is the more significant problem.

calculating the discharged F level after full dilution is  simplistic. there is no math formula that describes the dilution dynamics of a substance dumped into a solution. It does not dilute from 1 down to 0.2 in an instant.

I teach math in college and i assure you there are vast cases  where math is used improperly and with incorrect assumptions. False conclusions backed up with improper math is very common. Computing what the level will be after it dilutes into the volume of water flowing during the  infusion period does not indicate the actual level salmon are exposed to while approaching the discharge pipe section.

Richard Sauerheber, Ph.D.
Report Inappropriate Content
3
Kudos
920
Views