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Strategic advice needed for mini caregiving crisis

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There is some very good information in here and I have some questions for you. I am going to practice some "self care" right now and will write more tomorrow!

 

Thanks!

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Maybe you could add a bit more info ie if she has enough funds a church related nursing home with people her age range nearer to you would be an answer.  It is so hard being one hour away, I had a similiar situation, however, my parents moved into a senior income based housing while they all together.  Now we being of their age then took the same steps and moved into that type of environment which was so smart since our kids are your age.  They won't have to deal with your situation.

You needed to be the trustee for some time but at least you will be since you cannot be sure of what the circumstances are in your mothers home.  Are the caregivers from a reliable agency? Does someone from the agency check on them independent of your days?  I have seen many around our area taking long breaks outside chatting-what is going on inside?

Also if you are the only child her funds should be out of her name before any further decline.  Hope that helps somewhat.

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Thanks for your reply. My Mom has never been affiliated with a church, no funds there. We hire caregivers directly and do not use agencies. We have used agencies in the past and the caliber of caregiver and cost per day was a horrible ROI for us. We have had much better luck hiring caregivers outside of agencies. I do full background and reference checks and we have never had a problem. The current caregivers that my Mom has have been in place for over 5 years. The cost to have live in caregivers is approximately 60k a year which is much cheaper than an agency. If my Mom were to go into a extended care facility the costs would be approximately 10-12k/month due to the level of care she requires. 

 

Many thanks!

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@onebravegirl - So you're pretty sure that the large withdrawals of funds from your mother's account is strictly due to her own activities, and that her caregivers aren't pressuring her into giving them money, and she isn't just giving it to them on her own to "be nice"?


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I don't know about the withdrawals. I don't have access to her account yet. She could have lent one of them money. I went to her house yesterday and there were no big purchases that were visible to my "eyes". 

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If a paid caregiver knows the person isn't 100% mentally, then it's really a breach of trust for them to ask for, or accept even a loan, much less anything more than a small occasion-related gift.


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Excellent point, that will be discussed.

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@bayside21 wrote:

Maybe you could add a bit more info ie if she has enough funds a church related nursing home with people her age range nearer to you would be an answer.  It is so hard being one hour away, I had a similiar situation, however, my parents moved into a senior income based housing while they all together.  Now we being of their age then took the same steps and moved into that type of environment which was so smart since our kids are your age.  They won't have to deal with your situation.

You needed to be the trustee for some time but at least you will be since you cannot be sure of what the circumstances are in your mothers home.  Are the caregivers from a reliable agency? Does someone from the agency check on them independent of your days?  I have seen many around our area taking long breaks outside chatting-what is going on inside?

Also if you are the only child her funds should be out of her name before any further decline.  Hope that helps somewhat.


Congratulations of making preparations in advance !!!

 

 

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Do you know what other accounts your mother has .. like bank/checking accounts? If so, once you're on her trust as co-administrator, you'll have a better idea of how to approach your mother, about her use of funds. Can EJ hold up on any further transactions a few days, until you're authorized to see what's going on?

 

Are the caregivers from a single agency that bonds their personnel? Another thing you might want to look into, once you understand where the large withdrawal went.


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She has one other local bank account. EJ is going to include me on all conference calls going forward. 

 

Caregivers are hired directly. We do not use agencies. We don't use agencies because 1) the caregiver skill level is horrendous 2) the cost is too high. The agencies take too much of a percentage of the hourly wage. We used to get caregivers from agencies and it was a disaster really. None of the agencies could provide advanced and skilled care for someone who is essentially a quadrapalegic. 

 

I do extensive background checks and reference checks for caregivers. The reference checks really reveal a lot. I can get a good feel if the caregiver has the skill, personality, characteristics necessary to take care of someone who is as disabled as my Mom. I have found that many people who have severely disabled adult children or parents....usually go direct and hire directly; and do not use agencies for all of the reasons I describe. I am not naive either and realize that there are some perceived benefits from going through an agency. 

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