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Re: Should the South remove all monuments to Civil War history?

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I'm torn on that.  It's our nation's history.  What about the Battle of the Little Big Horn.  Offensive to Native Americans?

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A categorical NO!  That Confederate Battle Flag is NOT the Confederate Flag that hung in Robert E. Lee's office!  It's an iteration of the original "Battle Flag" and it was coopted by the KKK and became a symbol of racial hatred.  As a Southerner, I've never given that flag a moment's thought, as it meant nothing to me.  The monuments should stay, not be moved.  We aren't even teaching our real history in our schools anymore.  The "PC Police" want only our "good" history to be taught now and that is insane!  Leave the monuments alone.  What next?  Dig up all the bodies in Arlington National Cemetery because the land belonged to Robert E. Lee's wife and he was the head of the Southern fight in the Civil War?  Slavery was wrong and we as a nation recognized it and it is no more.  We've done the same with other parts of our history that we no longer tolerate.  Let's allow some common sense to reign re the statues and monuments.  Southern soldiers were no less brave that Northern soldiers in the Civil War and I refuse to denigrate their sacrifices.

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They can take every confederate flag down, but that will not change America's History.  Also, there is a state flag that has the confederate flag in the corner as part of the flag.  Is that state going to have to change their flag just because people do not understand the history of the Confederate flag?  The flag stands for the Confederate Army which fought for their way of life.  Slavery was a part of their way of life, but the flag did not represent slavery.  There lies the problem with the mis-understanding of the flag.  The flag holds the honor in which it was intended.  People do not understand the complete history or even the reason why the Confederate changed their 1st flag.  Their first flag looked too much like the Yankee flag in battle, so they changed the design.   Southerns will always be proud of their roots and history.  Many peoplejust do not understand this fact or the Southern's customs.  

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If the monument is removed, where is the memory?
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History not hatred. I would hope we have learned our errors and should remember them.
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It seems that factions are trying to rewrite our history. Yes slavery was awful, but it was our history and if we forget or suppress it we are more likely to repeat it.
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Let us not deny history or its content. As stated Andrew Jackson was a slave owner. He also was one of the primary forces who removed American Indians from their owned and ancesteral lands. We could look deeper and see that America was taken from all of the Tribes by European invaders. There is nothing right about ensalving man nor right about the forces which destroy mankind. To deny history is to deny ourselves. 

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@Tropicalstorm wrote:

To believe the Civil war was just about slavery is proposterous.

 

These people who are constantly screaming for the removal of all civil war memorial history have not done any research. 

 

The Civil War was NOT about SLAVERY, it was about states rights.


Hey Tropicalstorm,

 

You need to get out your history book and digest some facts for a change.

 

The Civil War was ALL ABOUT slavery. How about I give you the first few lines from the Mississippi Declaration of Secession to prove my point.

 

                           Mississippi Declaration of Secession

 

A declaration of the immediate causes which induce and justify the secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

 

In a momentous step, which our state has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

 

Our position is thoroughly indentified with the institution of slavery-the greatest material interest of the world.

 

As you can see, the first thing mentioned is slavery. It goes on to mention that the Union was forcing the Southern States to give Blacks rights, to delete the fugitive slave laws, and goes on and on. If someone can't see that the main reasons were slavery and race, you would have to be blind as a bat.

 

Several other Southern states virtually copied Mississippi's declaration.

 

 

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Yes, the Civil war did happen, just as the "Holocaust" happened, , but we don't glorify the horror of it all. Who are all of these southerners who wish to glorify the deaths of 600,000 Americans, and the destruction of the southern lifestyle. I don't understand their taste for this treason.!
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First, , the Confederacy is NOT anyone's HERITAGE !  It was a political organization that lasted for approximately 4 years, and it had a single major objective,, TO BREAK UP THE UNITED STATES !

How can any patriotic american want to be part of such a treasonable action ? Who takes pride in the destruction of ones own nation?   The results of this treason, included the deaths of over 600,000 americans, the destruction of the southern states, that set them back decades behind the rest of the USA, and the complete ruination of the southern lifestyle forever. What sadistic moronic group of people could want to revel in such an abomination ? ? I have served in 2 branches of the the US military, and have found all of the services to be replete with patriotic southern "country boys", none of which are willing to break up the USA !  These southern citizens have been fighting and dying for America. in wars all over the world for the last 150 years. Any glorification of the treason of their ancestors, only dishonors the sactifice they have made to keep all of us free.Tribute to the Confederacy should be allowed to be forgotton, and laid to rest! !

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