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   It is sad indeed that many, at times, myself included, fail to perform any sort of due diligence and read from sources outside their normal favs.

   What we are seeing in all of this is pure denial by RW, because they refuse to believe that anything that dares to question their guy in WH.    The entirety of the RW / GOP continue to do the same thing, we see that time and time again.   None of them cared about the death of one journalist, until the media refused to let the issue drop.    Then and only then did the RW whispers start their smear campaign on Kasshogi, attempting to tie him to all their routine "bad guys" in the Middle East and to support the Saudi's and their own disinformation campaign.    RW will not read or acknowledge the linked article, it would show that they don't read outside their bubble.   https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/10/donald-trump-pro-saudi-right-reacts-jamal-khashoggi

 

    Those in the RW  will even attack their own if they dare to disagree with the 'whisper campaign" that serves to  keep the majority of RWers together.     Did the RW bloggers  here notice that Rick Wiles threatened Ben Shapiro and denounced him for being a pseudo-conservative by speaking out about the maker of the pipe-bombs?     

 

      I would hope that everyone would stop and think about what they are writing when they decide to support those who are intent on destroying the fabric of American life by attacking based on ignorance and/or  blind obedience to a political ideology to such an extent that they will  accept  lies that are easlly disproved.   

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Published 4 hours ago

 

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/Mail-Bombs-Biden-De-Niro-Clinton-FBI-Obama-Fl...

 

Some Suspected Mail Bombs Were Not Capable of Exploding, Others Yet to Be Analyzed, Officials Say

 

 The news comes after investigators said the devices appeared poorly made and that it was unclear if they were hoaxes or simply cases of bad construction.

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@MIseker wrote:
You miss the part that` says the proud boys were invited to the republican event? ~Embraced by the party in spite of their racist and violent history?

I agree that one republican club should be "outa heah" by now. the party does not need such clubs.

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You miss the part that` says the proud boys were invited to the republican event? ~Embraced by the party in spite of their racist and violent history?
So it begins.
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@Olderscout66 wrote:

The Republican Party has actively courted the lunitic fringe since Nixon showed his "Southern Strategy" would win elections.

 

They have locked in the Fundamentalist cryptochristians by opposing Women's Rights and hold them even when they elect the most UN-christlike Toad in the swamp, Donny Wussygrabber Trump.

 

They refuse to denounce the mass murderers because their NRA base might be offended (along with the Death Merchants who are prime contributors to all things GOPer)

 

The only "good" news is they elected the Orange Toad with 26% of registered voters, and thanks to the KGB, we can be fairly certain that included just about everybody in their base.

 

So if the sane registered voters turn out, Republicans will LOSE every time.

 

Time to end this National Disgrace - VOTE OUT THE NRAGOP!


Instead of merely posting the same old hatred over and over again, you might try reading every now and then. Example - "refuse to denounce mass murderers" is nonsense and yet there it is as part of your flood of hatred.

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@gruffstuff wrote:

Nhttps://theweek.com/articles/803667/america-rightwing-terrorism-problem

 

America has a right-wing terrorism problem

 

 

It's been an ominous few days for democracy. On Monday, a pipe bomb was discovered in the mailbox of financier and liberal mega-donor George Soros. Late Tuesday night, a similar bomb was intercepted en route to Hillary Clinton. On Wednesday, the same thing happened to Barack Obama and at the New York headquarters of CNN — the latter addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan (who actually works for MSNBC). Another was reportedly sent to former Attorney General Eric Holder, but ended up at the offices of Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) due to a false return address. Another was reportedly sent to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.)

 

The commonalities here could not be more obvious. The most famous Democrats in the country, prominent cable news #Resistance pundits, and the famous Jewish liberal funder who has become an all-purpose boogeyman for the (increasingly anti-Semitic) extreme right. Of course, we don't know for sure who carried out the attempted bombings yet or why, though it's getting hard to imagine anything other than conservative politics as a motivation. But this would be far from the only example of recent right-wing terrorism — an increasing public emergency for the United States.

 

Take the so-called "Proud Boys," a violent proto-fascist gang founded by the overt racist Gavin McInnes. McInnes was recently invited to the Metropolitan Republican Club — which is also the headquarters of the New York Republican Party.

 

At the club, McInnes and his goons celebrated the 58th anniversary of the political assassination of Japan Socialist Party leader Inejiro Asanuma, who was stabbed to death with a samurai sword at a public event by a young right-wing fanatic. Brandishing a sword himself to re-enact the murder, McInnes said, "Never let evil take root."

 

Again, these guys were invited to come by top New York Republicans. And afterwards, the Proud Boys allegedly conducted gang beatdowns of several lefty counter-protesters while they screamed homophobic slurs. Far-right extremists, including both "Patriot Prayer" (a different right-wing gang) members and Proud Boys, allegedly did something similar in Portland the next day — and not for the first time.

 

Gang beatdowns are apparently important initiation rituals for the Proud Boys.

 

Then, of course, there was the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville last year, in which a right-wing terrorist allegedly murdered one counter-protester and injured about 30 others by driving his car into a crowd at high speed (his trial is still pending). A count done by a data reporter at Quartz found right-wing terrorists far exceeded any other type in 2017. (Left-wing terrorism, including the congressional baseball shooting, was about a third as large. Islamic terrorism was even lower.)

 

All this takes place in the a background of a Republican Party whose top leadership increasingly tolerates, condones, or even carries out political violence. President Trump did issue a statement Wednesday saying: "[A]cts or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the United States of America." But he was saying the exact opposite just a few days previously.

 

Recall that during a special congressional election in Montana last year, Republican candidate Greg Gianforte body-slammed Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs, breaking his glasses — while Jacobs had his recorder going. Then Gianforte flagrantly lied about what he had done until after he had the election sewn up, only admitting guilt and apologizing afterwards.

 

At a rally in Missoula a few days ago, Trump applauded Gianforte's admitted assault while campaigning for his re-election. "Any guy that can do a body slam — he's my guy," he said.

 

Obviously body-slamming a reporter (who was trying to ask a question about the ObamaCare repeal vote, by the way) is not the same as blowing them up with a pipe bomb. But it is absolutely beyond the pale of constitutional democracy. Celebrating such acts by the very top of the party elite does not bode well for the future of the GOP and American politics writ large.

 

Political violence is a thorny enough problem when it's carried out by underground extremists. But it is a lot more dangerous when it becomes a tactic for a ruling party. If one cannot win free and fair elections, well then violence might serve just as well — and if it works, then there is no way to stop it.

 

It is important to note that so far, none of these extremists or proto-fascists have at yet shown much in the way of physical courage. Sending a mail bomb anonymously, or ganging up with 10 friends to kick someone already on the ground, or jumping a slightly-built reporter out of the blue, is more about bullying and mob violence than it is the kind of truly unhinged zealotry that inspired the Asanuma assassination.

 

But things are escalating fast.


Well, Mr. Cooper, if you are going to associate the Kluxers and Proud Boys with Conservatives (the right) you are going to have to adopt antifa and Scalise's shooter as Liberal (the left). I don't believe it myself but some balance is needed on your part.

 

As to the bomb mailer - I agree the commonality could not be more obvious, the need for an "October surprise". I am not saying that is what the case is - I'll wait for law enforcement to figure it out - but if you are going to insist on commonality at this point, there ya go.

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Wisdom, methinks, calls for finding out who is responsible before deciding blame. To do other is in itself a sort of terroism --emotional terrorism. (Is this a base moving ploy? Let us find out.)

 

Shame on all the finger pointers. Let's find and stop this person/these people.

 

"The key to success is to keep growing in all areas of life - mental, emotional, spiritual, as well as physical." Julius Erving
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The Republican Party has actively courted the lunitic fringe since Nixon showed his "Southern Strategy" would win elections.

 

They have locked in the Fundamentalist cryptochristians by opposing Women's Rights and hold them even when they elect the most UN-christlike Toad in the swamp, Donny Wussygrabber Trump.

 

They refuse to denounce the mass murderers because their NRA base might be offended (along with the Death Merchants who are prime contributors to all things GOPer)

 

The only "good" news is they elected the Orange Toad with 26% of registered voters, and thanks to the KGB, we can be fairly certain that included just about everybody in their base.

 

So if the sane registered voters turn out, Republicans will LOSE every time.

 

Time to end this National Disgrace - VOTE OUT THE NRAGOP!

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I agree things are escalating fast. I just hope and pray that this is the end of all the craziness. Thank goodness no one was hurt today. I just hope they catch the person or persons responsible as soon as possible.

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Nhttps://theweek.com/articles/803667/america-rightwing-terrorism-problem

 

America has a right-wing terrorism problem

 

 

It's been an ominous few days for democracy. On Monday, a pipe bomb was discovered in the mailbox of financier and liberal mega-donor George Soros. Late Tuesday night, a similar bomb was intercepted en route to Hillary Clinton. On Wednesday, the same thing happened to Barack Obama and at the New York headquarters of CNN — the latter addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan (who actually works for MSNBC). Another was reportedly sent to former Attorney General Eric Holder, but ended up at the offices of Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) due to a false return address. Another was reportedly sent to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.)

 

The commonalities here could not be more obvious. The most famous Democrats in the country, prominent cable news #Resistance pundits, and the famous Jewish liberal funder who has become an all-purpose boogeyman for the (increasingly anti-Semitic) extreme right. Of course, we don't know for sure who carried out the attempted bombings yet or why, though it's getting hard to imagine anything other than conservative politics as a motivation. But this would be far from the only example of recent right-wing terrorism — an increasing public emergency for the United States.

 

Take the so-called "Proud Boys," a violent proto-fascist gang founded by the overt racist Gavin McInnes. McInnes was recently invited to the Metropolitan Republican Club — which is also the headquarters of the New York Republican Party.

 

At the club, McInnes and his goons celebrated the 58th anniversary of the political assassination of Japan Socialist Party leader Inejiro Asanuma, who was stabbed to death with a samurai sword at a public event by a young right-wing fanatic. Brandishing a sword himself to re-enact the murder, McInnes said, "Never let evil take root."

 

Again, these guys were invited to come by top New York Republicans. And afterwards, the Proud Boys allegedly conducted gang beatdowns of several lefty counter-protesters while they screamed homophobic slurs. Far-right extremists, including both "Patriot Prayer" (a different right-wing gang) members and Proud Boys, allegedly did something similar in Portland the next day — and not for the first time.

 

Gang beatdowns are apparently important initiation rituals for the Proud Boys.

 

Then, of course, there was the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville last year, in which a right-wing terrorist allegedly murdered one counter-protester and injured about 30 others by driving his car into a crowd at high speed (his trial is still pending). A count done by a data reporter at Quartz found right-wing terrorists far exceeded any other type in 2017. (Left-wing terrorism, including the congressional baseball shooting, was about a third as large. Islamic terrorism was even lower.)

 

All this takes place in the a background of a Republican Party whose top leadership increasingly tolerates, condones, or even carries out political violence. President Trump did issue a statement Wednesday saying: "[A]cts or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the United States of America." But he was saying the exact opposite just a few days previously.

 

Recall that during a special congressional election in Montana last year, Republican candidate Greg Gianforte body-slammed Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs, breaking his glasses — while Jacobs had his recorder going. Then Gianforte flagrantly lied about what he had done until after he had the election sewn up, only admitting guilt and apologizing afterwards.

 

At a rally in Missoula a few days ago, Trump applauded Gianforte's admitted assault while campaigning for his re-election. "Any guy that can do a body slam — he's my guy," he said.

 

Obviously body-slamming a reporter (who was trying to ask a question about the ObamaCare repeal vote, by the way) is not the same as blowing them up with a pipe bomb. But it is absolutely beyond the pale of constitutional democracy. Celebrating such acts by the very top of the party elite does not bode well for the future of the GOP and American politics writ large.

 

Political violence is a thorny enough problem when it's carried out by underground extremists. But it is a lot more dangerous when it becomes a tactic for a ruling party. If one cannot win free and fair elections, well then violence might serve just as well — and if it works, then there is no way to stop it.

 

It is important to note that so far, none of these extremists or proto-fascists have at yet shown much in the way of physical courage. Sending a mail bomb anonymously, or ganging up with 10 friends to kick someone already on the ground, or jumping a slightly-built reporter out of the blue, is more about bullying and mob violence than it is the kind of truly unhinged zealotry that inspired the Asanuma assassination.

 

But things are escalating fast.

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