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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

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I'm happy as a Veteran to continue Raising this issue over and over and over again - everytime it moves to the Top of the Thread List - there is the Opportuntity for one more American Citizen and one more American Veteran to see how Trumps Words about his Concern for Veterans & the Military are simply more lies

 

A Secret Offsite Ad-hoc Troika is Managing the VA - not advising Trump - personally Directing VA Policy 

 

Eventually the Whole Truth will become Public

 

And like with everything else involving Trump the Slime & Sleaze will be exposed

 

I'll continue to take every opportunity to counter with the Facts - the same ridiculous arguments raised over and over by anyone who thinks what is happening at the VA under Trump is improving the Service & Care our Veterans are Owed

 

Your own absurd redundant Questions & Arguments on this Thread Typify the double-speak from Trump and the Trump Cult on Every Major Issue but especially on this one - its Personal for me and your continuous attempts at offering Proof by Simply Repeating Your Own Contradicitions is Offensive...........................................

 

 And a Classic Example of the -  "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans" by too many Americans including you!

 

The question still stands, what adversity has befallen a single vet to make valid the topic, "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans"?

 

Yes, that is a redundant question. However, it is also an unanswered question and certainly germane to the discussion. Certainly more so than nonsense about Putin and 3 Stooges.

 


And

 

The Answer is still the same.......

 

There are very good reasons why we dont allow our government agencies to be operated in the Shadows in Secret by Individuals who have not been vetted - interviewed - elected - appointed or answerable to the American People through a review of Public Records 

 

The main reason - Questions like yours cannot be answered .............. but of course - you already know that and that's why your incessant redundancy is offensive!

 

What advice or even orders have they given making,  "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans" valid?


CUTE

 

All we do know comes from Whistleblowers and/or Patriotic Americans in the VA - willing to risk their careers to occasionally drop a dime and contact the Free Press because they are the recipients of the directions funneling down through the bureacracy from ghosts.......

 

Be Patient like I am - people asked the same kinds of questions you are now during - Watergate - knowing all along the answers could not be revealed without revealing sources 

 

History reveals most all -  in time

 

This 1/2 Decade will be unmatched at least in US History 

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

 

I'm happy as a Veteran to continue Raising this issue over and over and over again - everytime it moves to the Top of the Thread List - there is the Opportuntity for one more American Citizen and one more American Veteran to see how Trumps Words about his Concern for Veterans & the Military are simply more lies

 

A Secret Offsite Ad-hoc Troika is Managing the VA - not advising Trump - personally Directing VA Policy 

 

Eventually the Whole Truth will become Public

 

And like with everything else involving Trump the Slime & Sleaze will be exposed

 

I'll continue to take every opportunity to counter with the Facts - the same ridiculous arguments raised over and over by anyone who thinks what is happening at the VA under Trump is improving the Service & Care our Veterans are Owed

 

Your own absurd redundant Questions & Arguments on this Thread Typify the double-speak from Trump and the Trump Cult on Every Major Issue but especially on this one - its Personal for me and your continuous attempts at offering Proof by Simply Repeating Your Own Contradicitions is Offensive...........................................

 

 And a Classic Example of the -  "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans" by too many Americans including you!

 

The question still stands, what adversity has befallen a single vet to make valid the topic, "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans"?

 

Yes, that is a redundant question. However, it is also an unanswered question and certainly germane to the discussion. Certainly more so than nonsense about Putin and 3 Stooges.

 


And

 

The Answer is still the same.......

 

There are very good reasons why we dont allow our government agencies to be operated in the Shadows in Secret by Individuals who have not been vetted - interviewed - elected - appointed or answerable to the American People through a review of Public Records 

 

The main reason - Questions like yours cannot be answered .............. but of course - you already know that and that's why your incessant redundancy is offensive!

 

What advice or even orders have they given making,  "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans" valid?

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@MaVolta wrote:

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And then the rest is about the usual "greedy billionaires" class warfare.


No, it's called oligarch envy. Trump and his cronies have a lot to do to catch up with Putin & Co.


Now it's oligarchs, cronies, and Putin. But still unresolved is what negative effect have they had on any vet?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

 

I'm happy as a Veteran to continue Raising this issue over and over and over again - everytime it moves to the Top of the Thread List - there is the Opportuntity for one more American Citizen and one more American Veteran to see how Trumps Words about his Concern for Veterans & the Military are simply more lies

 

A Secret Offsite Ad-hoc Troika is Managing the VA - not advising Trump - personally Directing VA Policy 

 

Eventually the Whole Truth will become Public

 

And like with everything else involving Trump the Slime & Sleaze will be exposed

 

I'll continue to take every opportunity to counter with the Facts - the same ridiculous arguments raised over and over by anyone who thinks what is happening at the VA under Trump is improving the Service & Care our Veterans are Owed

 

Your own absurd redundant Questions & Arguments on this Thread Typify the double-speak from Trump and the Trump Cult on Every Major Issue but especially on this one - its Personal for me and your continuous attempts at offering Proof by Simply Repeating Your Own Contradicitions is Offensive...........................................

 

 And a Classic Example of the -  "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans" by too many Americans including you!

 

The question still stands, what adversity has befallen a single vet to make valid the topic, "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans"?

 

Yes, that is a redundant question. However, it is also an unanswered question and certainly germane to the discussion. Certainly more so than nonsense about Putin and 3 Stooges.

 


And

 

The Answer is still the same.......

 

There are very good reasons why we dont allow our government agencies to be operated in the Shadows in Secret by Individuals who have not been vetted - interviewed - elected - appointed or answerable to the American People through a review of Public Records 

 

The main reason - Questions like yours cannot be answered .............. because they are not - "officially" part of the system -  but of course - you already know that and that's why your incessant redundancy is offensive!

 

All we do know comes from Whistleblowers and/or Patriotic Americans in the VA - willing to risk their careers to occasionally drop a dime and contact the Free Press because they are the recipients of the directions coming from these 3 ghosts.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@mickstuder wrote:

 

I'm happy as a Veteran to continue Raising this issue over and over and over again - everytime it moves to the Top of the Thread List - there is the Opportuntity for one more American Citizen and one more American Veteran to see how Trumps Words about his Concern for Veterans & the Military are simply more lies

 

A Secret Offsite Ad-hoc Troika is Managing the VA - not advising Trump - personally Directing VA Policy 

 

Eventually the Whole Truth will become Public

 

And like with everything else involving Trump the Slime & Sleaze will be exposed

 

I'll continue to take every opportunity to counter with the Facts - the same ridiculous arguments raised over and over by anyone who thinks what is happening at the VA under Trump is improving the Service & Care our Veterans are Owed

 

Your own absurd redundant Questions & Arguments on this Thread Typify the double-speak from Trump and the Trump Cult on Every Major Issue but especially on this one - its Personal for me and your continuous attempts at offering Proof by Simply Repeating Your Own Contradicitions is Offensive...........................................

 

 And a Classic Example of the -  "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans" by too many Americans including you!

 

The question still stands, what adversity has befallen a single vet to make valid the topic, "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans"?

 

Yes, that is a redundant question. However, it is also an unanswered question and certainly germane to the discussion. Certainly more so than nonsense about Putin and 3 Stooges.

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@MaVolta wrote:


I'm sorry about your nephew. He deserves the best care possible.

 

The VA is now Wilkie's responsibility, period, not a bunch of Trump cronies in Mar-a-lago.


He is getting better than average care with a team of specialist specifically assigned to his care.

 

As far as advisers, I would believe that every President has had advisors in various areas.  So what is the problem with this President?  Who was advising Obama when the VA wasn't living up to their responsibilities?


The problem is that we are not an oligarchy where businessmen get to peddle influence over the government, and how the government, or agencies therein, are being run. The president has a cabinet of advisers, of his own choosing, and Congress has oversight. 

 

Any problems with the VA, or any other government agency, whether Obama Admin, or any other Admin, are the sole responsibility of the cabinet Secretary, the President, and Congress, and those people are the ones to hold accountable.

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@MaVolta wrote:


I'm sorry about your nephew. He deserves the best care possible.

 

The VA is now Wilkie's responsibility, period, not a bunch of Trump cronies in Mar-a-lago.


He is getting better than average care with a team of specialist specifically assigned to his care.

 

As far as advisers, I would believe that every President has had advisors in various areas.  So what is the problem with this President?  Who was advising Obama when the VA wasn't living up to their responsibilities?

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@rk9152 wrote:

 

And then the rest is about the usual "greedy billionaires" class warfare.


No, it's called oligarch envy. Trump and his cronies have a lot to do to catch up with Putin & Co.

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@MaVolta wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

But what have they actually done to deserve "Profoundly Unacceptable Betrayal of Our Veterans"???

I'll give you a more simplified answer:  It's what they haven't done, or maybe what they are trying to do, which is privitize the VA. Like everyone else in Trump world, they are in it for themselves, self-serving, self-absorbed, greedy billionaires, who seek power and control over as much as they can grab. All of the players in Trump world are monopoly players just like Trump. They live for it everyday and always have. It permeates this administration.


Do you use the services of the VA?  I don't, but a nephew who is approaching the terminal phase of Agent Orange exposure is, and receiving the best care that could be offered does.   He has 24 hour access to a team of specialists that is doing all they can for him. 

 

My medical care is through the Department of Defense's Tricare for Life so it is best for me to use local medical facilities.

 

So what are these greedy players doing to the VA?


I'm sorry about your nephew. He deserves the best care possible.

 

The VA is now Wilkie's responsibility, period, not a bunch of Trump cronies in Mar-a-lago.

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They have also used a little known program within the system that allows them to refer Veterans to specialist for care and refer to it as "Non-VA Care Providers" and all of the information flows back into the Veterans file.

 

I still have no idea where the "Betrayal" is @alferdpacker is talking about in this thread.  Its a mystery...

 

 


Doubtful that poster has even used the VA system.  I haven't had any contact since I'm covered by the DOD medical program, but I've received a good many calls and letters inviting me to use their regional outreach system locations.

 

Those two that use it has no complaints, but praise for it.

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