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@roberts258723 wrote:

Hello 

 

I agree with you 100%  Bob, I'm gonna assume you are responding to one of my posts.  Why?  Because I like agreement, though embrace civil disagreement.  May I make a suggestion?  When you respond to a particular post or person, indicate which post or person you are responding to.  It helps other readers to know who or what specifically you are responding to.  Some use the quote button just to the upper right of the dialogue box they're typing in.  Some delete parts of the "quoted" text for different purposes, e.g. not wanting to respond to every point someone made.  Some don't use it at all but put the person's AARP name at the beginning, like "roberts".  It just helps readers....

 

I am not different than you 

I like you see another person period ....gosh, wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone did the same?

 

But our voices are small compared to the majority of American Citizens  We can't let that stop us.  An 11 year old got a major soap company to change their ad.....a low budget movie got millions to embrace "pay it forward".

 

 

Personally I rather have the discussion with you

Because we both are not that different

We both understand that how to look into ourselves ( Good and  Not So Good)  100% agreement on all points!

 

I would glad to have a friend like you  What a lovely compliment, thank you (if directed to me and if not, still a lovely complement to another).  Thank you, Bob. 


 


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Hello 

 

I agree with you 100%

 

I am not different than you 

I like you see another person period 

 

But our voices are small compared to the majority of American Citizens

 

Personally I rather have the discussion with you

Because we both are not that different

We both understand that how to look into ourselves ( Good and  Not So Good)

 

I would glad to have a friend like you

 

Take Care

Bob

 

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@roberts258723 wrote:

Racism is never going to end.  Really?  Why is that?

 

We are basically talking about how each of us react to others. Really?  How about how we treat each others.  I don't care how you react to others; I only care how you treat others....

 

Hopefully, "we" aren't teaching hate to our children and grandchildren.....

 

 


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Racism is never going to end

We are basically talking about how each of us react to others

 

 

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Joyner Lucas video for 'I'm Not Racist' divides opinion: 'Is this the fifth time racism is over?'

 

The latest music video from rapper Joyner Lucas is dividing opinion on the internet, with some media outlets hailing it as "the most important video of the year" while others have been more sceptical. 

 

Beginning with a white man wearing a "Make America Great Again" cap who raps several racist tropes; a young black man then appears to tackle the stereotypes, before the two embrace at the end of the video. At the time of writing it had racked up almost 9m views in six days. 

 

CNN called it "the brutal race conversation no one wants to have" and spoke to Lucas, who said the video is about "suppressed feelings that both parties have but are afraid to express". 

 

Hollywood Life went so far as to say the video "perfectly explains racism in America", and Hot New Hip Hop said: "The discourse proceeds to play out with all the intensity of a rap battle, and both actors recite Joyner's bars with a convincing and powerful physical performance".

 

However, the video has also had its fair share of critics, with some branding the idealistic conclusion of the video as "corny" or overly simplistic. 

 

On an episode of Desus & Mero where the two VICELAND hosts reacted to the video, they mocked it for being "another rap songabout racism". 

 

"The easiest way to get me to not listen to a song about racism is to tell me it's a song I need to hear," Desus joked. 

 

A cynical Mero added: "Ah it ends with a hug. Of course... racism is over!" 

 

On social media some music fans were annoyed that Lucas appeared to imply "that racism can be solved with a hug", while others criticised him for perpetuating just as many stereotypes about black people in the anti-racist rap as the one from the white man's perspective.

 

"[Lucas] could have corrected some myths in the first verse, instead went to Kool-Aid and fried chicken," one tweeted. "'Cause that's what black people's concerns [are] in today's society." 

 

Joyner Lucas video for 'I'm Not Racist' divides opinion: 'Is this the fifth time racism is over?'


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You embedded your words in mine, making it difficult to separate them.  Hopefully you have a color monitor.  It makes for easy reading the conversational style.  I find this more effective because you can see what I'm responding to vs. having to guess.  However I'll try but I may miss a few.

 

"Cool.  That's half the challenge.  It really is an reasonable question and if you understand what it mean's, you'll understand why, IMO."

A reasonable question, but in the context of the one asking is seemed more than a little sarcastic.  You misread it....not sarcastic at all.

 

"But, if you know what it means, then shouldn't you know why responding with "White Lives Matter" or "All Lives Matter" is tone deaf? "

Again, context matters.  It depends on intent as much as the words.  Tone deaf for some, misunderstanding for others. I think "misunderstanding" is tone deaf.   I've met a few people here who think they known all about how someone thinks based on a few words, and I don't play that game.  Oh, I agree.

 

"Well, that's noble indeed, but guess what?  Everyone IS equal......now and many feel we still need to carry signs reminding others "Hey, Whitie, we matter just as much as you"."

No, everyone is NOT equal.  You're wrong, IMO.  And that's ok, right?  Are you equal?  Who isn't equal?  The Constitution say's we are all equal and that takes precedence, right? What gives you the right to say some aren't equal?  But certainly some people treat others as less equal....I hope you aren't one of them.  They SHOULD be, but they are not.  Not socially, financially, ability to advance or level of content/happiness and it's institional and not exclusively on one political side.  We're talking equal rights and how people treat others, right?  The Constitution never said all people should have equal things; just equal rights.  We're talking apples and oranges.  Do you think those with less money (your financially comment) should have less rights, different rights?

 

"I understand this question wasn't directed to me, but I'll take a stab at it....IMO, you can't tell, but smart folks like yourself can get a pretty good idea by the comments they make over an extended period of time."

And the pertinent phrase is 'over an extended period of time'.  Far too many people, here and on sites like Facebook very often form an opinion of people based on ONE post in ONE thread and sometimes just a PART of one post in one thread.  Yep.  Just like most do in their everyday lives.  It's where the term bigotry comes into play.

 

In my own case, an example would be my opinion on most things is the same regardless of what thread I'm posting on.  Except for the hypocrites, I believe that's the case for most of the posters here.  But if I should disagree with a liberal on almost anything I'm suddenly a conservative (and sometimes a right winger) and If I disagree with a conservative I'm a left winger. Yep....that's often the case with the extremes of both sides.  Personally, I take great pride in being called a Liberal by some and a Conservative by several others.....that tells me I'm right where I expect to be.... I am neither despite the apparent belief of some people that there are only two choices.  Yep.....a badge of honor.....Those who actually know me know I don't take blanket sides.  That is illogical and counterproductive.  Agreed.  Those who don't know me simply assume without having the common decency of even bothering to ask me what I mean before they form their opinions.  Yeah, well.  It is what it is.....

 

".I must have missed you post."

no you didn't miss it because I never posted anything about this test.  You took this out of context.....it wasn't directed to you....it was directed at any Conservative who posted and of which I missed their response.  It was an extension of kindness to others; not a reason to arch your back.  If you reread what I wrote, it clearly said, "If there are any folks who are right of center who posted their results here, my apologies....I must have missed your post."  I didn't even know about it until now. And I don't need a test to tell me what's in my mind or my heart even if it COULD accurately assess that in some Internet quiz.  I don't think anyone suggested you did, but you do come across as quite defensive.  If you are a schooled individual you've heard about the conscience, the sub-conscious and unconscious.  Do you really know what's in your sub-conscience or unconscious mind?  Do you know what the word "implicit" means?  If so, you might understand how odd you response is.

 

Also, if I took it and posted the answer it would either be ignored or used as a weapon depending on what their preconceived ideas are.  No one suggested you had to post anything....I'm sure many didn't.  That was the point.  But it could provide you with some insight....don't worry....it doesn't hurt.  You may be able to benefit from it.  Who knows?  You won't know until you try it.  But frankly, I don't really care.  Just wanted to provide you with an opportunity to answer your own questions.....

 

But it doesn't matter as it seems asking and responding in a calm, civil way seems to anger enough people to make further discussions here a waste of time.  Don't let it trouble you....everyone is dealing with their own stuff and as we know, some people often interpret what folks post more negatively than what is intended, especially if there is disagreement.  For example, it appears you misinterpreted several things correctly.  For example:

 

1.   There was absolutely NO sarcasm intended in the comment you interpreted as sarcastic;

 

2.   You misunderstood my comment about the text when you said you never posted anything about the test.

 

3.  You responded as if someone suggested you had to post the results....no one made any suggestion.  You imagined it.

 

Maybe even more.......

 

I'd like to say it's been fun, but it hasn't.  As one astute poster noted in this topic, "It's about growth", personal growth.  You get the "fun" from trying to understand, IMO, vs. thinking everyone is disagreeing with you.  I've noticed that in several conversations you've had with others.  I could be wrong....just an observation.

 

Now, just for hits and giggles, how do you interpret "Black Lives Matter"?  It's not a test.


Your text comes out as a light purple to me, and against black text they are almost indistinguishable to me because I don't have good eyesight and this isn't a very good monitor.  But the embedded text makes it cumbersome and time consuming.  Fair nuff....I went with bold and green hoping this might be better.

 

I'm not saying I'm infallible and I readily admit my mistakes.  Interesting considering you didn't "own" any of the misinterpretations you made earlier.  But oh well.....Perhaps it was just a question but the defensive tone of Chasky's post made it appear that way.  

 

As for the test.  I took it later but did not finish it once I got to the graphics part.  Then I took it again to the end but I still don't buy these Internet 'tests'.  According to your comment below, you must be over 60.....most standard testing today are "internet tests"  Do you trust Harvard University?  Isn't that a little more than "these internet tests"?  For one thing, the results are influenced by the time taken to pick the 'right' one and my eyesight made me take some time to figure some of these signs out.  Of course it is.....if someone has to think longer, it's indicative of something.  Maybe you know what that something is.....Some were obvious ( took the first test in the list) but others were new to me and it took a few seconds to figure out.  We were only talking about the racism test, weren't we?  And one of the reasons the test is bogus is because it doesn't take the test takers abilities into account (pretty ironic for a test about disabled people). That doesn't make the test "bogus" as you suggest....but it might be a comforting reason to discount the tests. And the switching of the right and left keys midway through the test was pointless and does nothing to assess the true feelings of the taker.  WOW!  Are you always so strongly opinionated?  How do you know the reason it was done?  Could it be they wanted the users to change there focus for a moment so they'd answer more truthfully.  Have you ever designed a test that tests ability and truthfullness?  There are many methods of testing and I'd suggest Harvard has a pretty good idea what they're doing with tests unless you have evidence of otherwise.  Sounds just like blameing to me.

 

As for 'personal growth', it's been my experience that most people over the age pf 60 don't WANT to do any 'growing' (being changing their perspective).  Does that include you?  I still take continuing ed course's, community education cource's, watch Discovery Channel, the History Channel, CNN, FoxNews, Frontline, 60 minutes, teach racquetball, go to the symphony, museum's, et.  I hope I'm growing until the days end for me.  So much to learn and do and teach others.  Maybe you do as well, but IMO, there's no reason to quit.

 

Also, as I am strongly in opposition to BOTH political parties you have to understand that a larger percentage of people disagree with me than followers of either.  Sorry, I don't understand what the last 12 words means.....I believe this is mainly because most partisans don't usually associate much with supporters of the "other" party on these forums.  Looks to me they "associate" by responding to their posts....maybe you mean something differently.  Some agree with my POV, but most don't and many in the latter group refuse to answer questions, which are admittedly made to show the logical errors in their beliefs.  And on the Internet, rather than face to face it's easier to just ignore them.  Yep....IMO, it depends on the\ relationship you develop with them.  Quite a few folks here are friends outside of this forum....in fact, some are family members.  I attended an AARP event two weeks ago in St Paul, the Bruce Hornsby concert, and met a couple posters.  It was fun.  Though I do understand some have physical challenges, but many more have intellectual or emotional issues as well.

 

This is nothing new as I have been arguing my points since before there was a World Wide Web, on dialup phone line BBSs so I'm quite used to it.

 

So, what does "Black Lives Matter" mean to you?


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You ARE Chasky53, aren't you?

 

YOU said 

"I'm not a racist" or "prove that I'm a racist" are often the first two things that racists say.

 

They often show what they are without ever admitting it. This forum confirms that."

 

And that was what I responded to.  I used your own words to form my questions, that apparent;y you have no intention of answering.

I wasn't calling BS on YOU..  Only asking civil questions. 

 

Why do people like you seem to want to turn an serious adult discussion into some kind of slap fight when caught by their own words?  Deflection?  Smokescreen?  Misdirection?


I said the very small and concise words that you quoted and that's it.

I posted:   

"I'm not a racist" or "prove that I'm a racist" are often the first two things that racists say.    - and -    they often show what they are without ever admitting it.

 

You went on a rant including many other things, saying I meant them and I didn't. You said this:  " But if you say you're NOT a racist, then you are a racist.  And of course if you say 'all (everybody) lives matter'  you're a racist."   I never implied any of those things, I never mentioned anything about "all (everybody) lives matter" or anything about it. I never said that "if you say you're not a racist then you are a racist". You saying those things in reference to my posting is disingenuous and is not "responding to the words" that I posted. What I posted doesn't mean any of those things that you claim. If you think they do then you need to brush up on the English language.

 

Why do "people like you" seem to want to twist other's words to mean things that they didn't and turn a discussion into some kind of "slap fight"?  Deflection? Smokescreen? Misdirection?

 

 


On this forum when racism is at issue, Deflection, Smokescreen and Misdirection,  separately - as well as in combination - are much more often than not the Modus Operandi trifecta...

It is essential to remember that both denial and projection have lately been heavily used favorites since Obama was first elected - and - with trump telling lies most of the time now - denial and projection have become everyday standard conservative/republican strategy...

 

So - am I prejudiced - biased - against republican/conservative thinking, dogma, and policy?

 

Why yes, I am indeed...

 

I have been ever since Nixon, his supporters, and Ford conclusively showed the world that Republicans have been consistently demonstrating preference and favoritism for their party over preference and favoritism for their country.

 

 


I have no problems with your bias toward conservatives/Republicans.  That's your business and not mine.  For me, I have a LOT of bias toward the Republican and Democratic parties, but I have no issues with liberals or conservatives. I firmly  believe this country will only work properly with BOTH ideologies in play.  It did in the past and it can in the future.  It's just not working now because the two parties no longer have much to do with real liberals and conservatives.  They ACT like they do but when you look very closely at both (and ignore their speeches) you will see they actually work for themselves.

 

One of my arguments is that no one should support those parties because neither actually serves or represents liberals and conservatives.  In this last election, for example, I maintain the the Greens are MUCH more genuinely liberal than the DNC, and that real liberals would do better to support them and if the Clinton and Sanders supporters voted for them, they would be better represented and I'm certain we wouldn't have Trump as president.  I say the same to conservatives.  Just join (or create) another party and give the GOP the boot.

If the right and left could work together, as they did in the past we would get a better country.

 

But we were talking race in this thread anyway, not parties. .  The only reason I said what I said is because I'm done with this cumbersome and horribly-designed forum software (I've built two debate forums site with FREE software that was better designed than this one).  The arguments I don't mind at all, but this site's system drives me nuts.

 

So you around the Internets.

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I took this test late night. Figured I’d be neutral—SURPRISE!! Results were that I lean slightly toward blacks.  Know what?  That makes me feel great about myself. I would be ashamed to have found out that I was prejudiced just because someone happens to look different than I or had more melatonin in their skin than I.  

 

For those who don’t know, I am white.

 

Gee, I miss having a real president!

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"I'm not a racist" or "prove that I'm a racist" are often the first two things that racists say.

 

They often show what they are without ever admitting it. This forum confirms that.


So if you admit you're a racist then of course you are a racist.  But if you say you're NOT a racist, then you are a racist.  And of course if you say 'all (everybody) lives matter'  you're a racist.  I think I see a flaw in this reasoning.

 

  And when you say 'often', how can you, based on those four words alone, determine if the speaker is a rascist or not?

 

 

More than once, I have said online, on Facebook and other venues that I'm not too interested in hearing 'black OR white lives matter" because I strongly believe that EVERYONE, every human being without exception should always  be treated as completely equal as everyone else.  For THAT I have been called a racist.

 

This blanket kind of reasoning makes no sense to me and I feel it's a serious insult to those people who harbor no prejudice to others of a different race yet are ASSUMED to be racists simply becaue they said they believed they weren't.

Please exaplin this reasoning?


Do you know what "Black Lives Matter" means and why it's relevant?


Of course I know what it means Cool.  That's half the challenge.  It really is an reasonable question and if you understand what it mean's, you'll understand why, IMO.  But, if you know what it means, then shouldn't you know why responding with "White Lives Matter" or "All Lives Matter" is tone deaf? 

 

and, for what it's worth, you might be surprised to know that several Conservative posters here didn't know what the slogan meant.  I would suggest those who may be racist are more likely to be bothered by it. 

 

and the fact that I want fair treatment and total equality for everyone doesn't mean I don't understand and appreciate their situation.  OK.  Not sure anyone suggested otherwise, did they?  In fact, if what I want would happen, everybody would be equal and no one would NEED to carry signs reminding people that their lives matter.  Well, that's noble indeed, but guess what?  Everyone IS equal......now and many feel we still need to carry signs reminding others "Hey, Whitie, we matter just as much as you".

 

And is that all you got from that entire post?  Did you miss the honest and valid question asking how you can tell someone is racist merely because they say they are not on the Internet?  I understand this question wasn't directed to me, but I'll take a stab at it....IMO, you can't tell, but smart folks like yourself can get a pretty good idea by the comments they make over an extended period of time. If you did, I'm asking again because I don't buy the claim that everybody is a racist.  Well, you might be surprised.  Maybe not everyone, but a far more than even a smart guy like yourself could imagine.  Consider the fact that there are various degree's of racism, like everything else....it's not you either are or you aren't.

 

Have you ever taken the Harvard implicit test?  It's been posted here probably a half-dozen times or so.....

 

What you may find interesting is that a couple of dozen folks over the years have reported their results here on the forum to share and discuss,  And ALL of them were what most would describe as left of center....not sure what that means, but it is "curious."  If there are any folks who are right of center who posted their results here, my apologies....I must have missed you post.

 

To narrow the point for you, if a man walked up t you with a swastika on his shirt, or was wearing a white robe and pointy hat and said he was not a racist, you would have good reason to question the statement.  But how can you possibly justify thinking someone you don't even know is a racist only because he says so?  These are just words we're using here, written by relative strangers, so not taking anyone at his word without KNOWING that persona is, lets' just say, disingenuous.

 

By the way, thinking "everybody": is racist means that since you are part of 'everybody' then YOU are a racist too,   How does that square with you calling other people racists?  Here's the test if you're interested.....it might answer the question for you.....

 

Harvard Racism Test


You embedded your words in mine, making it difficult to separate them.  Hopefully you have a color monitor.  It makes for easy reading the conversational style.  I find this more effective because you can see what I'm responding to vs. having to guess.  However I'll try but I may miss a few.

 

"Cool.  That's half the challenge.  It really is an reasonable question and if you understand what it mean's, you'll understand why, IMO."

A reasonable question, but in the context of the one asking is seemed more than a little sarcastic.  You misread it....not sarcastic at all.

 

"But, if you know what it means, then shouldn't you know why responding with "White Lives Matter" or "All Lives Matter" is tone deaf? "

Again, context matters.  It depends on intent as much as the words.  Tone deaf for some, misunderstanding for others. I think "misunderstanding" is tone deaf.   I've met a few people here who think they known all about how someone thinks based on a few words, and I don't play that game.  Oh, I agree.

 

"Well, that's noble indeed, but guess what?  Everyone IS equal......now and many feel we still need to carry signs reminding others "Hey, Whitie, we matter just as much as you"."

No, everyone is NOT equal.  You're wrong, IMO.  And that's ok, right?  Are you equal?  Who isn't equal?  The Constitution say's we are all equal and that takes precedence, right? What gives you the right to say some aren't equal?  But certainly some people treat others as less equal....I hope you aren't one of them.  They SHOULD be, but they are not.  Not socially, financially, ability to advance or level of content/happiness and it's institional and not exclusively on one political side.  We're talking equal rights and how people treat others, right?  The Constitution never said all people should have equal things; just equal rights.  We're talking apples and oranges.  Do you think those with less money (your financially comment) should have less rights, different rights?

 

"I understand this question wasn't directed to me, but I'll take a stab at it....IMO, you can't tell, but smart folks like yourself can get a pretty good idea by the comments they make over an extended period of time."

And the pertinent phrase is 'over an extended period of time'.  Far too many people, here and on sites like Facebook very often form an opinion of people based on ONE post in ONE thread and sometimes just a PART of one post in one thread.  Yep.  Just like most do in their everyday lives.  It's where the term bigotry comes into play.

 

In my own case, an example would be my opinion on most things is the same regardless of what thread I'm posting on.  Except for the hypocrites, I believe that's the case for most of the posters here.  But if I should disagree with a liberal on almost anything I'm suddenly a conservative (and sometimes a right winger) and If I disagree with a conservative I'm a left winger. Yep....that's often the case with the extremes of both sides.  Personally, I take great pride in being called a Liberal by some and a Conservative by several others.....that tells me I'm right where I expect to be.... I am neither despite the apparent belief of some people that there are only two choices.  Yep.....a badge of honor.....Those who actually know me know I don't take blanket sides.  That is illogical and counterproductive.  Agreed.  Those who don't know me simply assume without having the common decency of even bothering to ask me what I mean before they form their opinions.  Yeah, well.  It is what it is.....

 

".I must have missed you post."

no you didn't miss it because I never posted anything about this test.  You took this out of context.....it wasn't directed to you....it was directed at any Conservative who posted and of which I missed their response.  It was an extension of kindness to others; not a reason to arch your back.  If you reread what I wrote, it clearly said, "If there are any folks who are right of center who posted their results here, my apologies....I must have missed your post."  I didn't even know about it until now. And I don't need a test to tell me what's in my mind or my heart even if it COULD accurately assess that in some Internet quiz.  I don't think anyone suggested you did, but you do come across as quite defensive.  If you are a schooled individual you've heard about the conscience, the sub-conscious and unconscious.  Do you really know what's in your sub-conscience or unconscious mind?  Do you know what the word "implicit" means?  If so, you might understand how odd you response is.

 

Also, if I took it and posted the answer it would either be ignored or used as a weapon depending on what their preconceived ideas are.  No one suggested you had to post anything....I'm sure many didn't.  That was the point.  But it could provide you with some insight....don't worry....it doesn't hurt.  You may be able to benefit from it.  Who knows?  You won't know until you try it.  But frankly, I don't really care.  Just wanted to provide you with an opportunity to answer your own questions.....

 

But it doesn't matter as it seems asking and responding in a calm, civil way seems to anger enough people to make further discussions here a waste of time.  Don't let it trouble you....everyone is dealing with their own stuff and as we know, some people often interpret what folks post more negatively than what is intended, especially if there is disagreement.  For example, it appears you misinterpreted several things correctly.  For example:

 

1.   There was absolutely NO sarcasm intended in the comment you interpreted as sarcastic;

 

2.   You misunderstood my comment about the text when you said you never posted anything about the test.

 

3.  You responded as if someone suggested you had to post the results....no one made any suggestion.  You imagined it.

 

Maybe even more.......

 

I'd like to say it's been fun, but it hasn't.  As one astute poster noted in this topic, "It's about growth", personal growth.  You get the "fun" from trying to understand, IMO, vs. thinking everyone is disagreeing with you.  I've noticed that in several conversations you've had with others.  I could be wrong....just an observation.

 

Now, just for hits and giggles, how do you interpret "Black Lives Matter"?  It's not a test.


 


Your text comes out as a light purple to me, and against black text they are almost indistinguishable to me because I don't have good eyesight and this isn't a very good monitor.  But the embedded text makes it cumbersome and time consuming.

 

I'm not saying I'm infallible and I readily admit my mistakes.  Perhaps it was just a question but the defensive tone of Chasky's post made it appear that way.

 

As for the test.  I took it later but did not finish it once I got to the graphics part.  Then I took it again to the end but I still don't buy these Internet 'tests'.  For one thing, the results are influenced by the time taken to pick the 'right' one and my eyesight made me take some time to figure some of these signs out.  Some were obvious ( took the first test in the list) but others were new to me and it took a few seconds to figure out.  And one of the reasons the test is bogus is because it doesn't take the test takers abilities into account (pretty ironic for a test about disabled people).  And the switching of the right and left keys midway through the test was pointless and does nothing to assess the true feelings of the taker.

 

As for 'personal growth', it's been my experience that most people over the age pf 60 don't WANT to do any 'growing' (being changing their perspective).

Also, as I am strongly in opposition to BOTH political parties you have to understand that a larger percentage of people disagree with me than followers of either.  I believe this is mainly because most partisans don't usually associate much with supporters of the "other" party on these forums.  Some agree with my POV, but most don't and many in the latter group refuse to answer questions, which are admittedly made to show the logical errors in their beliefs.  And on the Internet, rather than face to face it's easier to just ignore them.

 

This is nothing new as I have been arguing my points since before there was a World Wide Web, on dialup phone line BBSs so I'm quite used to it.


How nice for you.

 

 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@jims730656 wrote:

" I've met a few people here who think they known all about how someone thinks based on a few words, and I don't play that game."

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Oh but yes you do play that game, you played it in another posting of mine. You took two short sentences that I posted and assumed or interpreted that they meant several other things that they didn't mean at all, and then assumed that those erroneous assumptions of yours were what I was thinking. You were wrong.


Apologies if I misinterpreted what you meant, but I was going by those first lines and my response was mainly about those lines, and most of the rest of my "rant" was concerning only them.

 

From what I see, few people actually SAY "i'm not a racists" and my question was, how can you tell if they are actually lying without knowing them, or what they say in other places?

You also said posts on this forum show that, and they are racists 'without admitting it".  My point was, how do you know that, especially when all we have here are words.  For all you know, I could be David Duke posting on a fake name and saying what I think you want to hear, in which case you'd never know I was Duke because you don't really know me outside of the words I type.  Of course if you knew you would know everything I say is an outright lie based on my history..  But you don't, and that's my point.

 

So let's just call it a day here and move on.

 

 

  

 

 

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