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no evidence of accidental release  by China

SARS began in America.  The novel corona virus appears to have had its start in China. Neither was the result of an accidental release from a lab no matter how much the Trump administration wants that to be the case. Evidence continues to exonerate the Chinese lab in Wuhan. Unfortunately, evidence also continues to mount demonstrating a complete lack of competence by the the Trump administration.  Trump needs to find a new excuse for the mess his pandemic response has created. ITYS

 

 

On Thursday, the U.S. intelligence community released an assessment formally concluding that the virus behind the coronavirus pandemic originated in China. While asserting that the pathogen was not man-made or genetically altered, the statement pointedly declined to rule out the possibility that the virus had escaped from the complex of laboratories in Wuhan that has been at the forefront of global research into bat-borne viruses linked to multiple epidemics over the past decade.

While intelligence analysts and many scientists see the lab-as-origin theory as technically possible, no direct evidence has emerged suggesting that the coronavirus escaped from Wuhan’s research facilities. Many scientists argue that the evidence tilts firmly toward a natural transmission: a still-unknown interaction in late fall that allowed the virus to jump from a bat or another animal to a human.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/chinese-lab-conducted-extensive-research-on-deadly-... 

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Interesting factoid about bats.

 

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.00026/full 

 

In recent years, viruses similar to those that cause serious disease in humans and other mammals have been detected in apparently healthy bats. These include filoviruses, paramyxoviruses, and coronaviruses that cause severe diseases such as Ebola virus disease, Marburg haemorrhagic fever and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in humans. The evolution of flight in bats seem to have selected for a unique set of antiviral immune responses that control virus propagation, while limiting self-damaging inflammatory responses. Here, we summarize our current understanding of antiviral immune responses in bats and discuss their ability to co-exist with emerging viruses that cause serious disease in other mammals. We highlight how this knowledge may help us to predict viral spillovers into new hosts and discuss future directions for the field.

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no evidence of accidental release by China

 

No evidence the genome of the virus was tampered with either.

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@Richva wrote:

SARS began in America.  The novel corona virus appears to have had its start in China. Neither was the result of an accidental release from a lab no matter how much the Trump administration wants that to be the case. Evidence continues to exonerate the Chinese lab in Wuhan. Unfortunately, evidence also continues to mount demonstrating a complete lack of competence by the the Trump administration.  Trump needs to find a new excuse for the mess his pandemic response has created. ITYS

 

 

On Thursday, the U.S. intelligence community released an assessment formally concluding that the virus behind the coronavirus pandemic originated in China. While asserting that the pathogen was not man-made or genetically altered, the statement pointedly declined to rule out the possibility that the virus had escaped from the complex of laboratories in Wuhan that has been at the forefront of global research into bat-borne viruses linked to multiple epidemics over the past decade.

While intelligence analysts and many scientists see the lab-as-origin theory as technically possible, no direct evidence has emerged suggesting that the coronavirus escaped from Wuhan’s research facilities. Many scientists argue that the evidence tilts firmly toward a natural transmission: a still-unknown interaction in late fall that allowed the virus to jump from a bat or another animal to a human.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/chinese-lab-conducted-extensive-research-on-deadly-... 


Thanks for the information and reliable source, Rich.  A reliable and trusted source is an excellent wat to initiate a discussion.


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No one can reach a conclusion without all the evidence in play. It's an ongoing investigation. I'll wait to see what is discovered. I don't trust China, and clearly they're attempting to CYA all over the globe. The Chinese communists are the world locusts. They have a history.

China is walking like a duck.... so

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Fishslayer wrote:

 

No one can reach a conclusion without all the evidence in play. It's an ongoing investigation. I'll wait to see what is discovered. I don't trust China, and clearly they're attempting to CYA all over the globe. The Chinese communists are the world locusts. They have a history.

China is walking like a duck.... so

 

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Contempt prior to investigation. tRump supporters are "walking like a duck".


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Fishslayer: No one can reach a conclusion without all the evidence in play. It's an ongoing investigation. I'll wait to see what is discovered. I don't trust China, and clearly they're attempting to CYA all over the globe. The Chinese communists are the world locusts. They have a history.

China is walking like a duck.... so

 

I have no idea what "walking like a duck" means if there is zero evidence of an accidental release by China.  The conclusion is that the Trump administration's lastest "look over there" attempt is also built on sand. You need not trust the Chinese but the total lack of evidence makes me wonder why this crazy theory got started in the first place. Oh right, Trump needed to hide his incompetence. Nevermind, asked and answered. 

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So because "no evidence" that you know has been publish for public consumption... then we should move on? That's nuts.

 

Increasingly...  the responsible free nations are looking at Chinese communist government with a stink eye. I can list them if you like. It's obvious China is our adversary and has committed an atrocity against mankind. 

 

patience grasshopper, we'll know more. How long did it take Mueller again? 

 

** if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... must be a duck.

**If china steals and commits genocide against it's own people... they're locusts.

 


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PLEASE list all the nations that are looking at the Chinese government with stink eye and explain in detail what stink eye looks like, and works.

Trump told us that China created all of this so that Trump would not win the election, and Trump was going to strike back at China. Now Trump takes something he told us was about him and wants to use the people of the USA as pawns as he strikes back.

One report is that Trump will cancel the US debt to China. We owe China more than any other country. They have been buying our bonds for years. If Trump does that we could end up in a war as no country is going to allow another country to just say we wont pay what we owe you. To allow that will destroy the worlds way  countries handle money matters between them. Trump uses the US to settle what he says is something between him and China.

Here I think is the real reason. Trump is flying a trial run on cancelling the US debt which is so large due to him it will never be paid off. Here is what he could do. 1. Cancel things like the SS and Medicare Trust funds. (Keep in mind these funds are invested in US Bonds.) 2. Cancel US savings bonds 3. Cancel all money loaned to the US govt. by Banks, people corp. (Most retirement funds etc have US gov. bonds in them).

 By doing that Trump gets rid of mos of the National Debt. You say it can not happen. Dream on. If Trump get to be full Dictator no one can stop him. Some will say it can not happen. Go back 3 years and they were saying that same thing about what Trump is doing today to all of us.

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One report is that Trump will cancel the US debt to China. We owe China more than any other country. They have been buying our bonds for years. If Trump does that we could end up in a war as no country is going to allow another country to just say we wont pay what we owe you. To allow that will destroy the worlds way  countries handle money matters between them. Trump uses the US to settle what he says is something between him and China.

 

The heck with China. No other country in the world would ever buy our debt again if Trump did that.  Add this to the huge Trump deficit we had before the pandemic and what it is going to take to keep us afloat under the Trump administration and we would have tons of debt with no one to buy. Can he be THAT stupid?  God.........he can be can't he?

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@Richva To summarize, you have no evidence, no inside information, no examples, no situations, and no corraboration but you really, really know because you are such a very stable genius?  We all know what we have discovered about the last guy to use that description of himself. 

 

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We ALL get our information from the media or press briefings. This is an investigation and it's just beginning. How can you possibly carry china's water for them? You know they lie, steal, cheat and treat the world like the locusts they are. The EU release a condemnation, UK and Australia. The blame is clearly on the chinese communist party. Multiple states are suing them. This isn't a political issue, it's an investigation. 

 

Again how long did Mueller take? 

 

I'llwait for our investigation to publish their findings.  However the chinese communist party has a very well documented history of malfeasance. You KNOW this!


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777:

You sound like a China expert. How many times have you been there to gather all that information.

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don't need to visit china to see what we import, just a local Walmart.

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I have been in business with major retailers in the USA for decades.

Ask Ralph Lauren, Gap, Banana Republic, Target, Home Depot, Lowes what percentage of goods THEY import from  China as part of their business model.

Consumer spending is 80% of the US economy.

China is our business partners.

You think you are going to get a Samsung window ac unit for 119 bucks paying Union labor here?

Its Home Depot that pays the tariffs to sell them at that price.

this is a global thing

 

We don't manufacture things here because of environmental issues.

China could care less about polluted water and air.

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"What is the mortality rate of TDS?"

 

It depends, how many of the Kool-aid drinkers will listen to the DERANGED ONE and ingest Clorox and/or inject their favorite disinfectant.

 

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jimjones hashtag on Twitter

 


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Fishslayer:   No one can reach a conclusion without all the evidence in play.

 

 

 

It looks like a conclusion was reached in this thread yesterday.

 

"DNI Confirms Outbreak Result of Accident at Wuhan ... "

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@Panjandrum wrote:

Fishslayer:   No one can reach a conclusion without all the evidence in play.

 

 

 

It looks like a conclusion was reached in this thread yesterday.

 

"DNI Confirms Outbreak Result of Accident at Wuhan ... "


Yes INDEED!  By the usual conspiracy theorists....trump as his Cult followers.  Surprised to see they all attempt to cover-up the most incompetent leader since Custer...

Granlund cartoon: Trump's Iran plan - Opinion - Greenwood Life ...


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IMPOTUS's advisors and campaign managers see their boss tanking in poll numbers for his handling of the pandemic, so they're shifting gears.  Change the focus and blame China.  It's no secret that IMPOTUS is pushing the intelligence agencies to come up with evidence linking coronavirus to Chinese labs.  Never mind that IMPOTUS originally praised President Xi for his handling of the COVID-19 outbreak.

 

Soon we will be seeing campaign ads linking Biden to China -- mark my words.

 

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