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What a charade the border wall has been to date. Government shutdown. 85 eminent domain legal lawsuit still pending. Wasted money on posters of a wall coming. The president stating several untruths about the wall.

Mickstuder's post seemed to sum up a major problem to the Wall. The tunnels. The tunnels, are a way more effective way of bringing drugs into this country. Mickstuder, even provided pictures of tunnels with railroad tracks in them and lighting.


O.K. - no walls. And for the same reasons no fences. What do you propose?

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Has this country became so stupid to think that only walls can delineate a national border?

 

I have seen no one say that. Can you point to an example - or would you rather just say, "Ooops, 'scuse me"?


No snoopy, but it does appear to be isolated to one political group....


Can either of you point to anyone in that "one political group" that has said, "only walls can delineate a national border"?

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The Fox Propaganda Network and Fox have been using their gullible, low IQ supporters non-stop since Comrade Trump came on the scene, supported by the Russians.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@gruffstuff wrote:

We really are living under The Reign of the Morons.

 

I don't think the events of the last seventy years " just happened ".

 

Call the managers morons if you want, but for the most part they have been very effective,  and they have gotten their way.


Only because we allow them to lie without consequence. Restore the Fairness Doctrine, which had penalties for lying in the media and calling it news, and we can remove the Republican poison from our system. The border wall was just a way to rev up the lofo's - it's ANOTHER GOPer dog whistle letting their base know they intend to do as much harm as possible to poor brown people who want to become Americans.


The Russian "division squads" have been so effective that now having national borders is called racism.


Has this country became so stupid to think that only walls can delineate a national border?


No, not "this country", just trump supporters that blindly follow him like members of a cult would.

 


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@CriticalThinking wrote:

 

 

Comprehensive Southern Border Security plan ... includes a combination of conventional security infrastructure like fencing, observation towers, fixed and mobile camera systems, helicopters and other physical surveillance equipment to the secure the border, sector by sector.

 

Agreed. And physical barriers (fencing, wall, spiked thing) are key elements.


 


So since fencing was included, why didn't trump accept it?


Since your needle seems to be stuck, I'll just say ditto.


Since your needle seems to be stuck, I'll ask you once more:   since fencing (and you stated that it was a "key element") was included  in the Democrat's offer, why didn't trump accept it?


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The wall is a distraction from trump giving our country away to Putin and the Russians. Our allies are disgusted with us, NATO is disgusted with us, the rest of the world is disgusted with us except for Iran and Russia. trump supporters seem to be fine with this.


Border security is a specific national issue - not a factor for Putin or anyone else.


The "Wall" isn't needed for border security. The wall is a distraction from trump giving away our country to Putin and the Russians. If not, Why didn't he get the wall funded by Congress last year while the Republicans had control of the House and the Senate? The "Wall" is bait for trump supporters.  The majority of Americans want no wall.


Well, the President says we need increased physical barriers. The Dems used to say that until the President started to say it. No Putin in that.


Try to keep up and stay better informed. The Democrats offered funding for border security including "physical barriers". It was refused my McConnell because trump will sign nothing not including his "wall".  Yep, the "wall" is a distraction from trump giving our country away to Putin and the Russians.

 

Why didn't he get the wall funded by Congress last year while the Republicans had control of the House and the Senate?

 

 I have no idea, I was not present at the discussions. This is a squabble between the President and the Dem leadership. Throwing Putin in is like the past idea of putting "alt-right" into every discussion.


You weren't present at what "discussions"?  You know something that the rest of America doesn't?  I'll ask once more:  Why didn't trump get the wall funded by Congress when the Republicans had the majority in both the House and the Senate?

 

 


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@rk9152 wrote:

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the wall talk is to distract from Trumps many, many problems. Mueller is closing in and he knows it.

Securing our borders is a job of the President. Mueller is a "Resistance" distraction.


Investigating trump's elections officials for conspiring with the Russians to influence our elections is Mueller's job.  The "Wall" is used by the "Resistance to Justice" as a distraction. Mueller is getting closer to trump.


Once again - Securing our borders is a job of the President. Mueller is a "Resistance" distraction.

 

Yes, a distraction that has to be dealt with but none the less a distraction from border security.


Once again - Investigating trump's elections officials for conspiring with the Russians to influence our elections is Mueller's job.  The "Wall" is used by the "Resistance to Justice" as a distraction. Mueller is getting closer to trump.


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@Cirice wrote:

 

Don't forget about Alaska and Hawaii.

 

And what about American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands? Don't they need walls, too? 😉


There are people  "swimming the river" in the instance under discussion. I have heard of no one "swimming the Pacific' to enter Samoa.

 

On the southern border we have caravans crossing Mexico. I have seen no caravan (poor, tired people of color)  marching through the Caribbean.


"caravans crossing Mexico" 

Wouldn't you say that's Mexico's problem?


Assume nothing. Question everything. And start thinking.
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What a charade the border wall has been to date. Government shutdown. 85 eminent domain legal lawsuit still pending. Wasted money on posters of a wall coming. The president stating several untruths about the wall.

Mickstuder's post seemed to sum up a major problem to the Wall. The tunnels. The tunnels, are a way more effective way of bringing drugs into this country. Mickstuder, even provided pictures of tunnels with railroad tracks in them and lighting.

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Has this country became so stupid to think that only walls can delineate a national border?

 

I have seen no one say that. Can you point to an example - or would you rather just say, "Ooops, 'scuse me"?


No snoopy, but it does appear to be isolated to one political group....


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