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Wisconsin Still Waiting For Trump's "Blue Collar Boom"

Residents in Wisconsin still waiting for President Trump's 'blue-collar boom'
The controversial Foxconn project was supposed to generate 13,000 manufacturing jobs, but three years later, residents are not sure if the jobs will come.
President Trump Attends Groundbreaking Of Foxconn Factory In Wisconsin
President Donald Trump speaks during a groundbreaking ceremony for the $10 billion Foxconn factory complex on June 28, 2018 in Mt. Pleasant, Wisc.Scott Olson / Getty Images file
 
Feb. 5, 2020, 2:56 PM CST
By Corky Siemaszko

 

President Donald Trump boasted of a “blue-collar boom” in his State of the Union speech, but in one corner of Wisconsin where residents were promised a swell of much-needed manufacturing jobs, they have been left waiting.

Three years ago, Taiwan-based electronics giant Foxconn was lured to the Milwaukee suburbs by former Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, and his GOP allies, with $4 billion in tax breaks.

 

In return, Foxconn promised to hire 13,000 people, the bulk of whom would work in a factory assembling high-tech liquid crystal display screens at a new plant in the town of Mt. Pleasant.

The facility is scheduled to open in just a few months and Wisconsin residents are still unclear what kinds of jobs will be offered by Foxconn. In recent years, the company has said it might turn the facility into a research hub staffed with scientists and engineers instead of factory workers.

Lawmakers like Wisconsin Assembly Minority Leader Gordon Hintz said they are increasingly skeptical that Foxconn will live up to its promises.

“We’re three months from the opening of something that the state is hoping will be a success and we have no idea what they’re going to do there,“ said Hintz, who is a Democrat.

 
 
Residents claim Trump’s Foxconn factory deal failed themJULY 23, 201905:01

“Nor does anyone know precisely what the company will even do in Wisconsin,” Levine added. “It is, by any reckoning, an economic development mess.”

Despite this, Racine County Executive Jonathan Delagrave said there are visible signs of progress on the ground, namely the construction of $372 million Foxconn plant that is expected to open in three months.

“We remain encouraged about the progress we’ve seen and continue to see on the ground in Racine County,” Delagrave said in statement published by local news outlet Wisconsin Examiner. “Our focus is on positioning our residents and businesses to benefit from this unprecedented opportunity in our community.”

 

NBC News reached out to Foxconn spokesmen Simon Hsing and Jimmy Huang by email to clarify what types of jobs will be created at the new facility, but they did not immediately reply.

But in earlier interviews, Louis Woo, the special assistant to Foxconn’s CEO, said the company had discussed scaling back its plans for the plant and warned it might not build display screens in Wisconsin because U.S. labor is too expensive and “we can’t compete.”

That runs counter to Trump's goal to add more manufacturing jobs. He has repeatedly tried to position himself as a pro-worker president, especially in the Rust Belt states he needs to win if he wants to be reelected in November.

Overall growth slowed from 2.9 percent in 2018 to 2.3 percent in 2019 as U.S. companies — spooked by Trump’s trade war with China and his tense relations with the European Union and other allies — scaled-back both investments and manufacturing.

 

“Wisconsin has lost hundreds of manufacturing jobs the last five months due to his tariffs,” said Hintz. “There is a major disconnect between what Trump says and what the reality is.”

 

Michael Strain, director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think-tank in Washington, told The Financial Times before the State of the Union speech, “the sad reality is that some of the president’s policies were harmful.”

“Manufacturing is doing very badly so I think the president’s rhetoric on this is very much out of step with the reality of the situation,” Strain said.

Image:President Donald Trump participates in a groundbreaking for a Foxconn facility at the Wisconsin Valley Science and Technology Park on June 28, 2018 in Mount Pleasant, Wisc.Brendan Smialowski / AFP - Getty Images file

 

Trump was a major cheerleader for the Foxconn project, which was announced at a White House ceremony in 2017 and was promoted as proof of his supposed ability to revive American manufacturing.

Trump even took part in the in the June 28, 2018, groundbreaking ceremony with Walker and company founder Terry Gou at the site of the firm’s LCD manufacturing campus.

Then in January 2019, Woo told Reuters that Foxconn was reconsidering plans to build liquid crystal display panels at the new plant.

Meanwhile, Trump personally reached out to Gou and the company quickly reversed itself, issuing a statement that said it was “moving forward with plans to build an advanced manufacturing facility.” The project, Foxconn said, would include a “liquid crystal module backend packaging plant” and a “high precision molding factory.”

 
 
Hintz, in a column published in the Wisconsin State Journal Monday, said taxpayers have already shelled out $151 million — mostly for new roads and infrastructure — for the Foxconn project. But the company has not given any indication it intends to create the kind of manufacturing jobs that people in Wisconsin desperately need.

“The longer Foxconn is vague about its plans for any viable project in Wisconsin, the more Wisconsin taxpayers should be concerned,” he wrote.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/they-re-still-waiting-president-trump-s-blue-collar-boom-n11309...


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    1,   How many dairy farmers have declared bankrupt - regardless of the socialism that donald et al used to  pour into WI - you know tax dollars from others to support them.

   2,   The HUGE elephant:   FOXCONN.....no GOP want to mention that sucking going on in WI.            

https://www.dairyherd.com/article/wisconsin-leads-farm-bankruptcies-again

 

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    Afisher wrote-  How many dairy farmers have declared bankrupt - regardless of the socialism that donald et al used to  pour into WI - you know tax dollars from others to support them.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Now that USMCA has passed ,Canada will now be able to enjoy the great cheese and milk products ,just across the border in Wisconsin,  at a affordable price.

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Ed needs to expand his horizon beyond the alternate reality bubble of Fox. Unlike Trump, who inherited a booming economy from Obama, he started out with the worst global recession of our lifetime. The first 2 years was spent trying to save the American Economy. 

 

By the way, one of Trump's camaign promises was annual 4% GDP growth. Of course, his cult members will never hold him accountable for yet another broken promise.

 

For those who live in the real world, here are the actual GDP numbers for President Obama.

 

What was the GDP growth under President Obama?
Real GDP rose from $14.4 trillion in Q1 2009 to $16.8 trillion in Q4 2016, a cumulative increase of $2.4 trillion or 16.6%. Real GDP per capita rose from $46,930 in 2009 to $51,523 in 2016 (a record level), an increase of $4,593 or 9.7%.

 

 

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Critical wrote-Real GDP rose from $14.4 trillion in Q1 2009 to $16.8 trillion in Q4 2016, a cumulative increase of $2.4 trillion or 16.6%. Real GDP per capita rose from $46,930 in 2009 to $51,523 in 2016 (a record level), an increase of $4,593 or 9.7%.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Don`t know where you dug this up but truly doesn`t reflect ACTUAL GDP  No President in history ever had a GDP annual rate of 9.7 %   REALITY  is that OBama never got a GDP over 3 % and his 8 year annual rate was 1.48% (source ,CNBC)

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And when wage increases are thrown around as increasing, are cost of living,

cost of goods, and inflation figured into the increase to give a net effect?

Were real gains really made. 

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@williamb39198 wrote:

And when wage increases are thrown around as increasing, are cost of living,

cost of goods, and inflation figured into the increase to give a net effect?

Were real gains really made. 


Why yes... yes they were. I posted the data from WI,  so now you want it all? Do you need the data, the link or is that a useless endevor, since it's been posted many, many times. I can't understand it for you, if you don't wanna believe the numbers. 


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ChasKy53:   Residents in Wisconsin still waiting for President Trump's 'blue-collar boom'

 

 

As the saying goes, Trump is "all hat and no cattle".

 

“Wisconsin has lost hundreds of manufacturing jobs the last five months due to his tariffs,” said Hintz. “There is a major disconnect between what Trump says and what the reality is.”

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tRump was riding on the Obma Recovery that added 196K jobs in 2017 and 264,000 in 2018, BUT only 46,000 in 2019. Also, while unemployment is low, pay is even lower for those in the middle.

 

As for the future, not so hot.

Manufacturing sector labor productivity fell 4.4 percent in the third quarter of 2017, as output decreased 1.1 percent and hours worked increased 3.5 percent,” the Bureau of Labor Statistics said in a Dec 6 press release. “This was the largest quarterly decline in manufacturing sector productivity since the fourth quarter of 2008 (-5.4 percent).”

Manufacturing labor productivity is an important indicator of “increased potential national income,” BLS says. But it has declined in 18 of the 39 quarters since the recession started, according to BLS.

When you look at manufacturing labor productivity stats over the last 3 years, they are abysmal,” Atkinson told us. “Shocking low if not negative in some quarters. Job creation with negative productivity cannot be the goal.”

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When you look at manufacturing labor productivity stats over the last 3 years, they are abysmal,” Atkinson told us. “Shocking low if not negative in some quarters. Job creation with negative productivity cannot be the goal.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Just a few facts--Obama was the only President who never had a GDP annual rate of 3 %. In fact his 8 year GDP annual average was 1.48%. All groups in our society have been lifted up by Trump`s economy.(blacks,hispanics, women and all Americans in general)---
New High of 90% of Americans Satisfied With Personal Life

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@easyed598 wrote:

When you look at manufacturing labor productivity stats over the last 3 years, they are abysmal,” Atkinson told us. “Shocking low if not negative in some quarters. Job creation with negative productivity cannot be the goal.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Just a few facts--Obama was the only President who never had a GDP annual rate of 3 %. In fact his 8 year GDP annual average was 1.48%. All groups in our society have been lifted up by Trump`s economy.(blacks,hispanics, women and all Americans in general)---
New High of 90% of Americans Satisfied With Personal Life


Obama took over as the economy was crashing into the deepest recession since the Great Depression because of the Republican's and Bush Jr Peppytwit's tax cuts and economic policies, along with their unfunded war in Iraq. Oops, you forgot to mention that. You also forgot to mention that Obama pulled us out of that recession and had constant economic growth and a constant year by year reduction of the deficit the last 5 or six years of his tenure. You also forgot to mention that tRump inherited a recovered economy. Oops again.

 

You also forgot to mention that under tRump 46% of Americans are living in or just above the poverty level, most of which are working Americans. When they took your '90% poll' they must not have contacted any of those 46% of Americans. Under tRump, homelessness has increased along with income a wealth disparity. 1 in 6 children in America don't know where tomorrow's meals are coming from. Oops, you forgot to mention those things too.

 

As far as Wisconsin goes, I'll listen to those in Wisconsin over what the Liar-In-Chief says.

 


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@Fishslayer777 

Really! Your info for Wis was only thru 2016. What about the last 4 years. So you're showing gains made with the Obama administration. 

And as always, why the name calling?

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@williamb39198 wrote:

@Fishslayer777 

Really! Your info for Wis was only thru 2016. What about the last 4 years. So you're showing gains made with the Obama administration. 

And as always, why the name calling?


It's my signature, lighten up francis. 

 

The data links provided have date through 2019. It's from their Economic site. See where it says 2019? 

 https://www.revenue.wi.gov/DORReports/WI-outlook-09-2019.pdf

 

and then I posted another link for 2020 and forward looking in the next post. 


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@Fishslayer777 

Okay name caller. 
Did not find my answer in the 2020 reference. 
I did look at the 2019 Wisconsin salary attachment also. But as to my original question...after the gross %
percentage for wage increase, what is the net effect after figuring in for inflation and cost of living increases. I did not find that anywhere. If you could tell me where it is located in your references, I would be more than happy to look at it. 
Thanks

And in your first 2019 reference, the study was produced in 2018, and only went to 2015-2016 in the charts. 

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Do your own work Willie... reading is fundamental, but it's there.

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@Fishslayer777

Okay Fishy! I can read, thank you. Which is why I posted observations after reading thru your source references. 
Have you checked your source materials?

It would be simple to answer if you had. 
Or perhaps the source material does not give that answer. 
I have asked an honest question, hopefully to receive an honest answer. 
That's all. 

 

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william, now you know their source material , it is only Faux News, the fairly imbalanced network. They do seem to enjoy name calling, don't they?? Sad!
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William and Tom

 

The data is from the State of Wisconsin, take it up with them, if you believe it's fake. Sheesh! See this is a problem with deniers and doubters who won't actually check and seemingly just assume.

 

I can't make anyone do what they don't want to do. It seems it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.  

 

 


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@Fishslayer777 

Thanks but Tom and I are just fine  We have our answer, which is no answer! 
Take it up with the State of Wisconsin?
...You posted the reference sources, not us. And as I said, I did read the source material you posted.  
No more questions. Have a good day. 

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@williamb39198 wrote:

@Fishslayer777 

Thanks but Tom and I are just fine  We have our answer, which is no answer! 
Take it up with the State of Wisconsin?
...You posted the reference sources, not us. And as I said, I did read the source material you posted.  
No more questions. Have a good day. 


REALLY?REALLY?


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@Tom5678 

? What do you think...are we back in grade school calling people names and making faces? Interesting response to get when you ask a question. 

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they get that from their supreme leader william. How many times have you heard Trump making fun of others? I lost count myself. Its sad, IMO.
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So did anyone actually read the economic data published by the State of Wisconsin in the links I provided? or are you still pouting?

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easyed598:  All groups in our society have been lifted up by Trump`s economy.(blacks,hispanics, women and all Americans in general)---

 

Good grief. Aren't there treatment centers for this?

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easyed598:  All groups in our society have been lifted up by Trump`s economy.(blacks,hispanics, women and all Americans in general)---

 

CRITICAL WROTE-Good grief. Aren't there treatment centers for this?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS AND I`LL USE IT AS A REFERRAL FOR ALL TDS  DEM FRIENDS AND FOES

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2017 data?
https://cced.ces.uwex.edu/files/2019/06/Manufacturing_Full-report.pdf

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From Wisconsin Dept. of Revenue ...  where the facts are real. I expect some modification to economis outlook after the USMCA was passed and signed. In addtion the ph 1 agreement with china will have benefits for WI too. State Rep. Tony Kurtz (R-WI): “This truly is a great win for Wisconsin farmers and manufacturers!”

Waukesha County, Wisconsin Executive Paul Farrow: “This deal is a tremendous victory for Wisconsin’s economy, especially our farmers, manufacturers, and innovators.”

Waushara County, Wisconsin Administrator Robert Sivick: “I appreciate President Trump’s outreach to local governmental officials like myself and concern for the people and economies of rural Wisconsin, the Midwest, and America.”

 

AT A GLANCE
• The U.S. and Wisconsin economies continue growing in 2019, despite some uncertainties clouding the
forecast. Personal consumption growth continues to be strong, helped by tight job markets, low interest rates,
and low inflation.
• U.S. real GDP grew 2.9% in 2018, pushed by the one-time stimulus of the tax cuts and jobs act (TCJA). The
forecast was revised down to incorporate the negative impact of new tariffs and is now showing 2.3% growth
in 2019 and 2.1% in 2020.
• Wisconsin's unemployment rate remains below the national rate, while both stay near historical lows.
• Wisconsin employment grew 0.8% in 2018 and 0.7% in 2017. The forecast calls for similar growth between
2019 and 2021.
• Wisconsin personal income grew 4.0% in 2018. It is expected to increase 4.6% in 2019 and 4.2% in 2020.
Revised state wages and personal income data for 2018 will be released by the end of September.

 

https://www.revenue.wi.gov/DORReports/WI-outlook-09-2019.pdf


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