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From 1948 to 1973, every additional dollar a worker earned for his employer resulted in the worker receiving 95 cents back in his paycheck.

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You are free to post your opinion but when you continue to make things up ...like what you just did you lose your credibility.

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From 1948 to 1973, every additional dollar a worker earned for his employer resulted in the worker receiving 95 cents back in his paycheck. From 1973 until 2015, each new dollar created by improved worker productivity left 45 cents in the workers' pocket. The difference, half of every additional dollar created by the workers improved productivity, has been flowing into the pockets of the dividers for 35 years.

 

Time to give it back to the creators and let the drones go back to getting sane raises.

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The fairy tale ends here where we tell everyone the truth: the really rich people are getting their money taxed away to redistribute to the 47% who pay (you guessed it), not a nickel of income tax! So, the money is being redistributed from those that earn it to those that don't!

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We have Government Programs because our ancestors tired of living in caves and eating whatever they could catch or pick that day. In short, we have Government Programs because we perfer Civilization to the Stone Age.

 We do and we needed armies to protect us and eventually roads to help us get where we wanted, and education to make the younger generation smarter than the previous.

The Republican Party has been orchestrating the redistribution of Wealth and Income from the Middle to the very top for 40 years, and they're Gittn' her done.

 Democrats have seen the road to laziness and decided it was easier to get wealth from those that have (by taxation) and redistribute to those in need (Democrats).

Here's what America had done with Government Programs for the average American right after WWII:

When I was growing up in a mid-size town in the mid-west back in the 1950's and 60's, the Top Marginal Rate was 91%,

Granted, a confiscatory rate!!!

which meant those at the very top of the income ladder gave around 50% of their income, leaving them with an average of (in 2017 dollars) $750,000 to spend. Still, every year the rich people got richer, but everybody else got richer faster because the Tax Structure provided for services that made life better for everyone and provided good paying jobs for many, paid for with Revenue Sharing.

So those that made money had to pay via the government those that wanted the money.

 

There were excellent public schools in every part of town and in all the surrounding communities.

Thank those who had expensive homes because that's where the school funds came from.

Teachers were paid more than the average wage, classes were 25-30 kids and almost everyone behaved all the time. Those whose behavior lapsed were disciplined, and rather than run home and have daddy sue the School District, the miscreants did all they could to make sure Daddy never heard of their infraction because the discipline would be re-applied at home.

What was just as important as the highly qualified teachers,  their workload was such that grades 1-3 had 2 recess hours each day and 4-6 had 1 plus a gym or art class every day.

They didn't have classes in LGBQ or whatever and no need to have instruction on Jenny has two mothers or condom installation.

Seems to have eliminated the need for retilin to calm down the boys and girls of the day, and made the entire school a "community" of sorts - to the extent that bullying was "self-corrected" by the students and those even considering acts of vandalism had to conceal it from their classmates as well as the teachers. Milk was a penny a pint and the hot lunch was 25 cents, courtesy of the farm price supports.

 

School supplies were available for the asking at the "school store" staffed by students, and there was no fee for books or to participate in any extra ciricular activities or school clubs. We were required to take our uniforms home for washing before a game or meet, but towels and soap were free after gym and practice.

 

The city provided the water, sewer and trash pick-up for all the private residences.  In the summer there were high school students paid minimum wage by the city to run programs for the younger kids 5 days a week at the local parks, including bus trips to local "attractions" like swimming pools and the potato chip factory. The Little/Pony League equipment, officials and ball fields were all provided and maintained by the city and uniforms were provided by the team sponsors.

 

College tuition was $120/semester, room and board in the dorms was $105/month. The Student Book Store had used texts for a fraction of the new price.  Tickets to the sports events were free to students, as were the University golf course, tennis and racketball courts and Olympic swimming pool. Low interest GOVERNMENT loans were available to anyone who needed them and graduating with more than $1000 of debt was unheard of.

 

So then LBJ slashed the TMR to 70%

I knew that LBJ was good for something, certainly not expanding the War.

in 1965 to gain support for the war HE lied us into, Reagan slashed the TMR first to 50% then to 28%, the National Debt went for $320Billion to $21 TRILLION

Reagan was another great President. BTW, Reagan did not get the national debt up to $21 trillion. When Obama took office, the debt was $10 trillion and when he left office (eight years later), the debt was $20 trillion!

, and how much better are we now than we were back in the 50's and 60's, now that we have NONE of those "Government Programs" funded by taxes that allowed everyone to get richer every year?


The fairy tale ends here where we tell everyone the truth: the really rich people are getting their money taxed away to redistribute to the 47% who pay (you guessed it), not a nickel of income tax! So, the money is being redistributed from those that earn it to those that don't!

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We have Government Programs because our ancestors tired of living in caves and eating whatever they could catch or pick that day. In short, we have Government Programs because we perfer Civilization to the Stone Age.

 

The Republican Party has been orchestrating the redistribution of Wealth and Income from the Middle to the very top for 40 years, and they're Gittn' her done.

 

Here's what America had done with Government Programs for the average American right after WWII:

When I was growing up in a mid-size town in the mid-west back in the 1950's and 60's, the Top Marginal Rate was 91%, which meant those at the very top of the income ladder gave around 50% of their income, leaving them with an average of (in 2017 dollars) $750,000 to spend. Still, every year the rich people got richer, but everybody else got richer faster because the Tax Structure provided for services that made life better for everyone and provided good paying jobs for many, paid for with Revenue Sharing.

 

There were excellent public schools in every part of town and in all the surrounding communities. Teachers were paid more than the average wage, classes were 25-30 kids and almost everyone behaved all the time. Those whose behavior lapsed were disciplined, and rather than run home and have daddy sue the School District, the miscreants did all they could to make sure Daddy never heard of their infraction because the discipline would be re-applied at home.

What was just as important as the highly qualified teachers,  their workload was such that grades 1-3 had 2 recess hours each day and 4-6 had 1 plus a gym or art class every day. Seems to have eliminated the need for retilin to calm down the boys and girls of the day, and made the entire school a "community" of sorts - to the extent that bullying was "self-corrected" by the students and those even considering acts of vandalism had to conceal it from their classmates as well as the teachers. Milk was a penny a pint and the hot lunch was 25 cents, courtesy of the farm price supports.

 

School supplies were available for the asking at the "school store" staffed by students, and there was no fee for books or to participate in any extra ciricular activities or school clubs. We were required to take our uniforms home for washing before a game or meet, but towels and soap were free after gym and practice.

 

The city provided the water, sewer and trash pick-up for all the private residences.  In the summer there were high school students paid minimum wage by the city to run programs for the younger kids 5 days a week at the local parks, including bus trips to local "attractions" like swimming pools and the potato chip factory. The Little/Pony League equipment, officials and ball fields were all provided and maintained by the city and uniforms were provided by the team sponsors.

 

College tuition was $120/semester, room and board in the dorms was $105/month. The Student Book Store had used texts for a fraction of the new price.  Tickets to the sports events were free to students, as were the University golf course, tennis and racketball courts and Olympic swimming pool. Low interest GOVERNMENT loans were available to anyone who needed them and graduating with more than $1000 of debt was unheard of.

 

So then LBJ slashed the TMR to 70% in 1965 to gain support for the war HE lied us into, Reagan slashed the TMR first to 50% then to 28%, the National Debt went for $320Billion to $21 TRILLION, and how much better are we now than we were back in the 50's and 60's, now that we have NONE of those "Government Programs" funded by taxes that allowed everyone to get richer every year?

 

 

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