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Why is Germany doing So Well with Covid19?

Simple answer: They did not elect and support a MORON.

 

Slightly more detailed answer: Back in Jan, they began testing 120,000 each week.

 

Anyone who tested positive, even if they had no symptoms, was told to go home and stay there for at least 2 weeks when they'd be retested. If they ventured outside before their quarantine had ended, they were subject to a 8,000Euro ($10,000) fine.

 

Everyone else was told go go about their business, but IMMEDIATELY contact their doctor if they developed and flu-like symptoms.

 

RESULT: Germany has fewer than 10,000 reported cases and everything is moving along smartly - kids play in the parks, old people stroll the downtowns, and everything's still open.

 

Those in quarantine had no money problems as Germany already has wonderful "workers comp" and universal health care.

 

The testing and quarantine continues, and so does Germany's status as least infected and most productive Nation in Europe.

 

But GOPers kept a MORON as their ToadPOTUS, so we're now leading Italy in infections, and have 3.3 MILLION unemployment applications in a single day.

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The idea that Germans and some Northern European peoples belong to a blond haired, blue-eyed, race of Aryans is ludicrous.

 

 

"Aryan race" came to be misapplied to all people descended from the Proto-Indo-Europeans – a subgroup of the Europid or "Caucasian" race,[8][9] in addition to the Indo-Iranians (who are the only people known to have used Arya as an endonym in ancient times)

 

The term Aryan has generally been used to describe the Proto-Indo-Iranian language root *arya which was the ethnonym the Indo-Iranians adopted to describe Aryans. Its cognate in Sanskrit is the word ārya (Devanāgarī: आर्य), in origin an ethnic self-designation, in Classical Sanskrit meaning "honourable, respectable, noble".[4][5] The Old Persian cognate ariya- (Old Persian cuneiform: 𐎠𐎼𐎡𐎹) is the ancestor of the modern name of Iran and ethnonym for the Iranian people.[6]

The term Indo-Aryan is still commonly used to describe the Indic half of the Indo-Iranian languages, i.e., the family that includes Sanskrit and modern languages such as Hindi-Urdu, Bengali, Nepali, Punjabi, Gujarati, Romani, Kashmiri, Sinhala and Marathi.[7]

 

 

In the 18th century, the most ancient known Indo-European languages were those of the ancient Indo-Iranians. The word Aryan was therefore adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian peoples, but also to native Indo-European speakers as a whole, including the RomansGreeks, and the Germanic peoples. It was soon recognised that BaltsCelts, and Slavs also belonged to the same group. It was argued that all of these languages originated from a common root – now known as Proto-Indo-European – spoken by an ancient people who were thought of as ancestors of the EuropeanIranian, and Indo-Aryan peoples.

 

In the context of 19th-century physical anthropology and scientific racism, the term "Aryan race" came to be misapplied to all people descended from the Proto-Indo-Europeans – a subgroup of the Europid or "Caucasian" race,[8][9] in addition to the Indo-Iranians (who are the only people known to have used Arya as an endonym in ancient times). This usage was considered to include most modern inhabitants of Australasia, the CaucasusCentral AsiaEuropeLatin AmericaNorth AmericaSiberiaSouth AsiaSouthern Africa, and West Asia.[10] Such claims became increasingly common during the early 19th century, when it was commonly believed that the Aryans originated in the south-west Eurasian steppes (present-day Russia and Ukraine).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@LouLit01 wrote:

 

The idea that Germans and some Northern European peoples belong to a blond haired, blue-eyed, race of Aryans is ludicrous.

 

 

"Aryan race" came to be misapplied to all people descended from the Proto-Indo-Europeans – a subgroup of the Europid or "Caucasian" race,[8][9] in addition to the Indo-Iranians (who are the only people known to have used Arya as an endonym in ancient times)

 

The term Aryan has generally been used to describe the Proto-Indo-Iranian language root *arya which was the ethnonym the Indo-Iranians adopted to describe Aryans. Its cognate in Sanskrit is the word ārya (Devanāgarī: आर्य), in origin an ethnic self-designation, in Classical Sanskrit meaning "honourable, respectable, noble".[4][5] The Old Persian cognate ariya- (Old Persian cuneiform: 𐎠𐎼𐎡𐎹) is the ancestor of the modern name of Iran and ethnonym for the Iranian people.[6]

The term Indo-Aryan is still commonly used to describe the Indic half of the Indo-Iranian languages, i.e., the family that includes Sanskrit and modern languages such as Hindi-Urdu, Bengali, Nepali, Punjabi, Gujarati, Romani, Kashmiri, Sinhala and Marathi.[7]

 

 

In the 18th century, the most ancient known Indo-European languages were those of the ancient Indo-Iranians. The word Aryan was therefore adopted to refer not only to the Indo-Iranian peoples, but also to native Indo-European speakers as a whole, including the RomansGreeks, and the Germanic peoples. It was soon recognised that BaltsCelts, and Slavs also belonged to the same group. It was argued that all of these languages originated from a common root – now known as Proto-Indo-European – spoken by an ancient people who were thought of as ancestors of the EuropeanIranian, and Indo-Aryan peoples.

 

In the context of 19th-century physical anthropology and scientific racism, the term "Aryan race" came to be misapplied to all people descended from the Proto-Indo-Europeans – a subgroup of the Europid or "Caucasian" race,[8][9] in addition to the Indo-Iranians (who are the only people known to have used Arya as an endonym in ancient times). This usage was considered to include most modern inhabitants of Australasia, the CaucasusCentral AsiaEuropeLatin AmericaNorth AmericaSiberiaSouth AsiaSouthern Africa, and West Asia.[10] Such claims became increasingly common during the early 19th century, when it was commonly believed that the Aryans originated in the south-west Eurasian steppes (present-day Russia and Ukraine).


Correction: Superior German genes.

 

All better now.

 

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To repeat:

Simple answer: They did not elect and support a MORON.

 

Slightly more detailed answer: Back in Jan, they began testing 120,000 each week. That number continues to increase as the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT acquires more test kits.

 

Anyone who tests positive, even if they had no symptoms, is told to go home and stay there for at least 2 weeks when they'd be retested. If they venture outside before their quarantine has ended, they are subject to a 8,000Euro ($10,000) fine.

 

Everyone else is told go go about their business, but IMMEDIATELY contact their doctor if they developed and flu-like symptoms, including a fever.

 

Very informative that GOPers want to make it a "race thing", something all decent folks should keep in mind when voting OUT all the Republicans who got us into this mess and insist on keeping us infected and dying to protect the undeserved ego of the ToadPOTUS and draft-dodger in chief.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

 

Very informative that GOPers want to make it a "race thing", something all decent folks should keep in mind when voting OUT all the Republicans who got us into this mess and insist on keeping us infected and dying to protect the undeserved ego of the ToadPOTUS and draft-dodger in chief.


Wrong as always.

 

1. I am not plural.

 

2. Here are liberals making it a "race thing.":

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-black-americans-race/index.html

 

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@aruzinsky wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

 

Very informative that GOPers want to make it a "race thing", something all decent folks should keep in mind when voting OUT all the Republicans who got us into this mess and insist on keeping us infected and dying to protect the undeserved ego of the ToadPOTUS and draft-dodger in chief.


Wrong as always.

 

1. I am not plural.

 

2. Here are liberals making it a "race thing.":

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-black-americans-race/index.html

 


Even lamer than usual.

1. You are repeating GOPer talking points

2. Superior Aryan DNA is NAZI dogma, not a German characteristic

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

 

Very informative that GOPers want to make it a "race thing", something all decent folks should keep in mind when voting OUT all the Republicans who got us into this mess and insist on keeping us infected and dying to protect the undeserved ego of the ToadPOTUS and draft-dodger in chief.


Wrong as always.

 

1. I am not plural.

 

2. Here are liberals making it a "race thing.":

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/coronavirus-black-americans-race/index.html

 


Even lamer than usual.

1. You are repeating GOPer talking points

2. Superior Aryan DNA is NAZI dogma, not a German characteristic


1. Prove it by naming other GOPers with those "talking points."

2.  You immorally removed "Correction: Superior German genes" from quotes.

 

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Superior Aryan genes.

 

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@aruzinsky wrote:

Superior Aryan genes.

 


That is what  a lot of Trump supporters are saying.

Honored Social Butterfly


@john258 wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

Superior Aryan genes.

 


That is what  a lot of Trump supporters are saying.


Actually it's superior Aryan MEMORY. They know what happens when a narcistic racist psychopath is given power and we're just learning the lession they learned long ago.

Honored Social Butterfly

Why is Germany doing So Well with Covid19?

 

We can do this in the USA, but not while Republicans hold power in the State and or Federal governments.

Honored Social Butterfly

   Ignoble donald supporters will complain about this as well, but I am all for an informed public.   https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/03/27/coronavirus-test-officials-botched-rol...

 

    The RW answer is to ignore all the public health care professionals around the country.    Sadly, the Deep South states are looking to become hot spots as they listen to Donald as well as ignoble donald supporters here.  

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New York and California are in bad shape because they had no idea there was a problem because the ToadPOTUS kept that information secret (except to a few GOPers who needed to know so they could dump stock before the crash) AND they have HUGE populations.

 

The new hotspots are Louisana and Tennessee - deep Red States with legislatures terrified Toad will Tweet a nasty at them if they do anything to contradict the BS flowing from the White House. Tenn has yet to tell people to stay home asmuch as possible, and all their night spots are still spreading Covid19 around like it was Confederate Money on Bobby Lee's Birthday.

Social Butterfly


@Olderscout66 wrote:

Simple answer: They did not elect and support a MORON.

 

Slightly more detailed answer: Back in Jan, they began testing 120,000 each week.

 

Anyone who tested positive, even if they had no symptoms, was told to go home and stay there for at least 2 weeks when they'd be retested. If they ventured outside before their quarantine had ended, they were subject to a 8,000Euro ($10,000) fine.

 

Everyone else was told go go about their business, but IMMEDIATELY contact their doctor if they developed and flu-like symptoms.

 

RESULT: Germany has fewer than 10,000 reported cases and everything is moving along smartly - kids play in the parks, old people stroll the downtowns, and everything's still open.

 

Those in quarantine had no money problems as Germany already has wonderful "workers comp" and universal health care.

 

The testing and quarantine continues, and so does Germany's status as least infected and most productive Nation in Europe.

 

But GOPers kept a MORON as their ToadPOTUS, so we're now leading Italy in infections, and have 3.3 MILLION unemployment applications in a single day.


As far as I'm concerned you could have stopped after the simple answer. All the rest flows from that

 

Germany is not China. German is a capitalist democracy. Germany is our ally. Germany began testing in January. When people started dropping dead of the flu there did no one think to ask Germany about how to efficiently produce accurate tests and then outline a plan for making them if they became necessary here?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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   The data proves Germany has avoided the US cycle:    As of today:   Germany has 47,278 infections with 281 Deaths and 5673 recoveries.     ( US has not been reporting the last number).   

    Germany  has a vibrant society and if it was acting like US, the deaths would be much greater.   Even when the US had 46450 cases, the number of deaths was 593.      

 

     Naysayers can deny all they want,  this is data / facts.    If naysayers believe their information, then in 4 days time, one would suspect that their death and infection rates will spike in the near future.   

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SPRING BREAK --MIAMI BEACH MARCH 2020.   Yes why are other countries doing better ?  

 
A cluster of positive coronavirus cases has been linked to  a   festival that took place on Miami Beach in early March, at a time when concerns over the virus  had not yet been revealed by TRUMP and his minions  ..which would have   led to mass cancellations and the upending of ordinary life.  
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Are you blaming president Trump for spring break? and irresponsible behavior of young people? Should we "round them up" like in China? and force them into quarantine?

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Are you blaming president Trump for spring break? and irresponsible behavior of young people? Should we "round them up" like in China? and force them into quarantine?


The beaches should have been closed, trump should have taken action nationally instead of leaving it up to the individual states so that Republican Governors could cow tow to tRump's denial of the urgency for people to practice social distancing.


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Are you blaming president Trump for spring break? and irresponsible behavior of young people?
Yup ..... Trump severely minimized the effects of the Corona Virus and downplayed its highly contagious behavior ....... leading to the "no need to worry about it  irresponsible behavior" projected to ALL people!

Should we "round them up" like in China? and force them into quarantine?

No .... Just "roundup" Trump's incompetent and corrupt administration and throw them out of office!


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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@myexper wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Are you blaming president Trump for spring break? and irresponsible behavior of young people?
Yup ..... Trump severely minimized the effects of the Corona Virus and downplayed its highly contagious behavior ....... leading to the "no need to worry about it  irresponsible behavior" projected to ALL people!

Should we "round them up" like in China? and force them into quarantine?

No .... Just "roundup" Trump's incompetent and corrupt administration and throw them out of office!


 


lol... so no personal responsibility... right? Are the future of America so easly led astray? I blame the parents who fund their "kids" behavior in college. I graduated 3 ( the other on the GI bill) and when the hammer fell... the line was red.


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Are you blaming president Trump for spring break? and irresponsible behavior of young people?
Yup ..... Trump severely minimized the effects of the Corona Virus and downplayed its highly contagious behavior ....... leading to the "no need to worry about it  irresponsible behavior" projected to ALL people!

Should we "round them up" like in China? and force them into quarantine?

No .... Just "roundup" Trump's incompetent and corrupt administration and throw them out of office!


 


lol... so no personal responsibility... right?

Yup .... Trump has refused to accept any responsibility for the gross misinformation he spewed.

 

Are the future of America so easly led astray?

Apparently ..... Too many of them believed Trump's lies and cavalier attitude towards the Corona Virus.

 

I blame the parents who fund their "kids" behavior in college.

As usual, an excuse to evade Trump's incompetent actions.


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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Why? Germany is not following trump's lead, nor is paying any attention to him. 
And hasn't hit Germany's elderly yet? Just wait until it hits the elderly in Florida!

Besides, Germany takes good care of it's Senior citizens...the US does not. 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Simple answer: They did not elect and support a MORON.

 

Slightly more detailed answer: Back in Jan, they began testing 120,000 each week.

 

Anyone who tested positive, even if they had no symptoms, was told to go home and stay there for at least 2 weeks when they'd be retested. If they ventured outside before their quarantine had ended, they were subject to a 8,000Euro ($10,000) fine.

 

Everyone else was told go go about their business, but IMMEDIATELY contact their doctor if they developed and flu-like symptoms.

 

RESULT: Germany has fewer than 10,000 reported cases and everything is moving along smartly - kids play in the parks, old people stroll the downtowns, and everything's still open.

 

Those in quarantine had no money problems as Germany already has wonderful "workers comp" and universal health care.

 

The testing and quarantine continues, and so does Germany's status as least infected and most productive Nation in Europe.

 

But GOPers kept a MORON as their ToadPOTUS, so we're now leading Italy in infections, and have 3.3 MILLION unemployment applications in a single day.


The methodology behind Germany’s data gathering could also play into the discrepancy between Italian and German figures. If a patient is tested positive for Covid-19 in Germany, the doctor will notify the local health authority, which will then digitally transfer the data to the Robert Koch Institute. The lag in this process explains why the RKI’s daily figures have been consistently lower than those from Johns Hopkins University, which updates its data tables more frequently. By 10am on Sunday morning, for example, the RKI only notes 55 fatalities in Germany.

Unlike in Italy, there is currently no widespread postmortem testing for the novel coronavirus in Germany. The RKI says those who were not tested for Covid-19 in their lifetime but are suspected to have been infected with the virus “can” be tested after death, but in Germany’s decentralised health system this is not yet a routine practice. The age profile of those affected in the first few weeks has also been younger than in other countries, many of them fit and healthy people returning from skiing resorts in Austria or Italy, which would also help explain the low mortality rate.

“I assume that many young Italians are or were infected without ever being detected,” Christian Drosten, a virologist at Berlin’s Charité hospital. “This also explains the virus’s supposedly higher mortality rate there.” Drosten, who has been advising the German health ministry, has also warned that Germany’s mortality rate is likely to rise in the coming weeks as high-risk areas become harder to identify and testing capacity becomes stretched.

“It will appear that the virus has become more dangerous, but this will be a statistical artefact, a distortion. It will simply reflect what’s already starting to happen: we’re missing more and more infections.” German politicians and senior health officials have been reluctant to comment on the low mortality rate while the situation is developing so rapidly. Lothar Wieler, the president of the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), the government’s central public health body, has said he does not expect there to be a significant difference in mortality rates between Italy and Germany in the long run. “It’s too early to say whether Germany is better medically prepared for the Covid-19 pandemic than other countries,” said Marylyn Addo, who heads the infectiology department at Hamburg’s University Medical Centre. One likely explanation for the discrepancy in figures, Addo suggested, was that while northern Italy’s hospitals are being overrun with new patients, Germany’s are not yet at full capacity and have had more time to clear beds, stock up on equipment and redistribute personnel.

 

Time will tell, the virus is still in the early stages of contagion.

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Olderscout:  

Simple answer: They did not elect and support a MORON.

 

Slightly more detailed answer: Back in Jan, they began testing 120,000 each week.

 

 

Amen to that. Meanwhile, all we get is lame but hilarious excuses why none of this is Trump's fault. Even if there is no such place as Hell, the history books will scorch him just as badly.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

Olderscout:  

Simple answer: They did not elect and support a MORON.

 

Slightly more detailed answer: Back in Jan, they began testing 120,000 each week.

 

 

Amen to that. Meanwhile, all we get is lame but hilarious excuses why none of this is Trump's fault. Even if there is no such place as Hell, the history books will scorch him just as badly.


Clearly you didn't read the link posted. There are REAL and MEASURABLE reason outlined in the article. Not everything is the 'sky is falling' and the presidents fault. 

 

The TDS is off the chart these days. 


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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Simple answer: They did not elect and support a MORON.

 

Slightly more detailed answer: Back in Jan, they began testing 120,000 each week.

 

Anyone who tested positive, even if they had no symptoms, was told to go home and stay there for at least 2 weeks when they'd be retested. If they ventured outside before their quarantine had ended, they were subject to a 8,000Euro ($10,000) fine.

 

Everyone else was told go go about their business, but IMMEDIATELY contact their doctor if they developed and flu-like symptoms.

 

RESULT: Germany has fewer than 10,000 reported cases and everything is moving along smartly - kids play in the parks, old people stroll the downtowns, and everything's still open.

 

Those in quarantine had no money problems as Germany already has wonderful "workers comp" and universal health care.

 

The testing and quarantine continues, and so does Germany's status as least infected and most productive Nation in Europe.

 

But GOPers kept a MORON as their ToadPOTUS, so we're now leading Italy in infections, and have 3.3 MILLION unemployment applications in a single day.


Made up information with amphibian hate sprinkles. Here's why... There may be many reasons for the disparity, but they all boil down to one thing: Covid-19 has not yet hit as hard among the oldest and frailest members of Germany’s population.  Read and educate yourself and quit the fear mongering and hate.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/coronavirus-less-deadly-in-germany-because-of-you...

 

 


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:


Made up information with amphibian hate sprinkles. Here's why... There may be many reasons for the disparity, but they all boil down to one thing: Covid-19 has not yet hit as hard among the oldest and frailest members of Germany’s population.  Read and educate yourself and quit the fear mongering and hate.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/coronavirus-less-deadly-in-germany-because-of-you...

 

It has always amazed me, that the Trump followers, who have seen that their leader is the biggest hater, and attacker of anyone he doesn't like. and then  play the victim game and think that everyone hates them. Sorry no such luck, All of you make my life so much more bearable. In these times of isolation, I really need all the entertainment that I can get

 

 


 

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Fishslayer:  Covid-19 has not yet hit as hard among the oldest and frailest members of Germany’s population. 

 

 

I'm betting it won't hit them as hard because they have competent leadership that knows what it's doing.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

Fishslayer:  Covid-19 has not yet hit as hard among the oldest and frailest members of Germany’s population. 

 

 

I'm betting it won't hit them as hard because they have competent leadership that knows what it's doing.


This is the reason....

 

“Why are so many elderly in some countries getting infected whereas in other countries they don’t?” Bayer said. “The social network is a natural explanation.” 


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

@Panjandrum wrote:

Fishslayer:  Covid-19 has not yet hit as hard among the oldest and frailest members of Germany’s population. 

 

 

I'm betting it won't hit them as hard because they have competent leadership that knows what it's doing.


This is the reason....

 

“Why are so many elderly in some countries getting infected whereas in other countries they don’t?” Bayer said. “The social network is a natural explanation.” 


"The SocialNetwork" in Germany is totally different, without a doubt. It includes a great many multi-generational households so the EXPOSURE of their Senior population is going to be about the same as it is here.

 

The difference being, in Germany, Opa and Oma are staying home to look after the grandkids and help with the family finances while over here our Seniors are working two jobs to make ends meet after their lifelong employer declared bankruptcy and took the entire pension fund for their Golden Parachute.

 

Likewise THEIR social network does not include FOX, and Nazi's are still illegal, so they have no Republicans.

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