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Back on topic

 

Any person - when encountering "kaka" Kavanaugh - at any time the Supreme Court is not in session - is constitutionally and lawfully allowed to tell him to his face that the person believes kaka to be a liar - a perjurious individual...

 

Why is he the subject of public opprobrium?

Because over 20 million saw him on TV committing perjury - under oath - before Congress...

 

"kaka" Kavanaugh will forever be known as the lying justice...

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

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It wasn't me that brought Hillary into this. However, did classified data not get to Weiner's computer?

A few but Hillary Clinton did not send them. BTW for reference Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell BOTH had private e-mail servers at their homes. Then there is this little gem from Pence's hometown newspaper:

"When he was governor of Indiana, Vice President Pence used a private email account for official business. That private email account, which contains information too sensitive to be released to the public, was hacked last year.

Those revelations come to us from the Indianapolis Star, which filed public records requests while Pence was governor and just now received 29 pages of emails from Pence's AOL account.

 

Were subpoenaed emails not destroyed? No absolutely NO subpoena'd e-mails were destroyed.

 

Was there no a "tarmac summit"? No that was a right wing hit job blown out of porprotioin by Fox Entertainment Channel.

 

Did Comey not say that she had violated the rules but he couldn't prove that she intended to? Yes. Please look up "mens rea" it is a ket element in any crime. A few of the e-mails that were marked classified were subsequently declassified later.

 

Where is the "stupid conspiracy theory" in that.Hypocrisy  is more like it. The current President consucted business on an unsecured phone for the first several months he was in the White House by the way. The ruls should apply uniformly to everyone, not just your politoical opponents.


The emails were under subpoena, they were destroyed. What is your point?

 

The term "tarmac summit" - it happened and is Politico now part of that "vast right wing conspiracy"?  https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-white-house-josh-earnest-225008

 

Rice and Powell did not have private servers, they used private addresses on public providers. AOL for at least one of them. Hillary did have a private server. And Pence - again, private account not private server.

 

mens rea - that has been explored. It's called the "She is too stupid to know" defense. She was Secretary of State - how stupid could she possibly be about the handling of official material??


When did an unsecure account on a public server become safer than an account on a private server? You do know that emails on AOL could be read by some of the people working at AOL don’t you? 

 

Are you you not aware that GWBush, Dick Cheney and several others in their administration conducted public business on a private server?


An individual cannot "wipe clean" a public server. They, obviously, can "wipe clean" a private server. "Safer" is not the issue in Hillary's private server. It is the ability to hide stuff - subpoenaed emails for example.

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

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"Come on 'fess up - it's all about the Dems looking to stall things until the elections in the hope of taking over the Congress and thereby control of the nomination process."

 

There does not seem to be a right wing talking point that you disagree with. If the "Dems were looking to stall things..."   Why did they not hold up Gorsuch? What was the rush to cram this guy through? (Gamble vs. USA) Why did they not release over 70% of the documents they asked for? When Sotimayor was nominated she had been a judge already for a number of years, the GOP asked for and got documents from her HIGH SCHOOL volunteer work. pretty ridiculous!!!!


Gorsuch was in a Presidential election your and long standing tradition is that when there is a Party split between the Congress and WH nominations do not occur in such years. That did not apply in the case Kavanaugh.


When did this ‘long standing tradition’ start? Obviously it wasn’t in effect in 1987 since Stevens was nominated by Reagan and confirmed by a Democratic Senate. Looking at history, this long standing tradition’ started in 2015.


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/17/misleading-notion-supreme-court-vacancy...

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

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No, my argument is Ford didn't remember where she was, didn't remember when it happened, the people she said were there said they weren't, she didn't know how she got to the party, and didn't know how she got home. So, is the left's position that someone is guilty until proven innocent or ONLY if they are Conservatives?

 

Kavanaugh doesn't have to prove anything - his record is his proof.


You mean like Hillary?  All those fake charges (remember Benghazi?) and the worst they could say is that she was not careful enough handling confidential emails. 

 

When will Trump apologize to Ford for mocking her at a rally?


You are off topic, but - Hillary got off the hook due to the corruption of the DOJ under Obama. Trump did not mock her - her own words did, he merely repeated them.


What is the number of this conspiracy theory?


That's your only defense of her and the corrupted Obama DOJ?

 

And - how did the President mock Ford by quoting her own words? Seems like she mocked herself.


No, I just don’t believe stupid conspiracy theories. At least eight ‘investigations’ by the Republicans who hated Hillary with a passion were unable to turn up anything criminal and you blame the DOJ. I agree that the Republicans are incompetent but one would think that after 30 years of ‘investigating’ they would have stumbled onto one act that was criminal if any were to be found.


It wasn't me that brought Hillary into this. However, did classified data not get to Weiner's computer? Were subpoenaed emails not destroyed? Was there no a "tarmac summit"? Did Comey not say that she had violated the rules but he couldn't prove that she intended to?

 

Where is the "stupid conspiracy theory" in that.


You listed many in your first paragraph.


Did I???  Were emails under subpoena not destroyed?


Yes, you did. Hillary had nothing to do with the emails being destroyed at that time. The person who wiped the drive said that it was supposed to have been wiped months before and when he saw it had not been he did it then not knowing what was on the drive or that there was a subpoena for it.


Did she not fail to deliver the subpoenaed emails?

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And yet another accusation...... "No wonder you are a proponent of wealth redistribution - seems you want his."

 

What she meant was people who are rich often get away with things people who are not rich do not get away with. It had nothing to do with youre snotty  sanctimonious "wealth redistribution" comment.


How do you know what "she" (scout) meant?

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@PatriciaP164294 wrote:

"Come on 'fess up - it's all about the Dems looking to stall things until the elections in the hope of taking over the Congress and thereby control of the nomination process."

 

There does not seem to be a right wing talking point that you disagree with. If the "Dems were looking to stall things..."   Why did they not hold up Gorsuch? What was the rush to cram this guy through? (Gamble vs. USA) Why did they not release over 70% of the documents they asked for? When Sotimayor was nominated she had been a judge already for a number of years, the GOP asked for and got documents from her HIGH SCHOOL volunteer work. pretty ridiculous!!!!


Forget the cliches about "right wing talking point" - do you really think that Schumer was not trying to put the SCOTUS confirmation off until after the elections when he was hoping things would be more favorable to the Dems?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@PatriciaP164294 wrote:

It wasn't me that brought Hillary into this. However, did classified data not get to Weiner's computer?

A few but Hillary Clinton did not send them. BTW for reference Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell BOTH had private e-mail servers at their homes. Then there is this little gem from Pence's hometown newspaper:

"When he was governor of Indiana, Vice President Pence used a private email account for official business. That private email account, which contains information too sensitive to be released to the public, was hacked last year.

Those revelations come to us from the Indianapolis Star, which filed public records requests while Pence was governor and just now received 29 pages of emails from Pence's AOL account.

 

Were subpoenaed emails not destroyed? No absolutely NO subpoena'd e-mails were destroyed.

 

Was there no a "tarmac summit"? No that was a right wing hit job blown out of porprotioin by Fox Entertainment Channel.

 

Did Comey not say that she had violated the rules but he couldn't prove that she intended to? Yes. Please look up "mens rea" it is a ket element in any crime. A few of the e-mails that were marked classified were subsequently declassified later.

 

Where is the "stupid conspiracy theory" in that.Hypocrisy  is more like it. The current President consucted business on an unsecured phone for the first several months he was in the White House by the way. The ruls should apply uniformly to everyone, not just your politoical opponents.


The emails were under subpoena, they were destroyed. What is your point?

 

The term "tarmac summit" - it happened and is Politico now part of that "vast right wing conspiracy"?  https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-white-house-josh-earnest-225008

 

Rice and Powell did not have private servers, they used private addresses on public providers. AOL for at least one of them. Hillary did have a private server. And Pence - again, private account not private server.

 

mens rea - that has been explored. It's called the "She is too stupid to know" defense. She was Secretary of State - how stupid could she possibly be about the handling of official material??


When did an unsecure account on a public server become safer than an account on a private server? You do know that emails on AOL could be read by some of the people working at AOL don’t you? 

 

Are you you not aware that GWBush, Dick Cheney and several others in their administration conducted public business on a private server?

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

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Yet when you see all the liberals pushing a narrative for which they have no facts (re: Kavanaugh) that is acceptable to the libs? Even the people Ford said were present denied being there but the left knows all (they think).


And we will never have the facts if the GOP has anything to say about it.  We NEED an FBI investigation of this incident without the restrictions the Trump administration put on the fake one they just had. 

So now the left wants an 8th investigation of Kavanaugh? Trump stated the constraints on the last investigation: "talk to as many people as you want but get done in one week". You are always asking for proof of everything - so, show me the proof that Trump stood in the way of the last investigation. Oh, you can't find any?

But that is not the instructions he gave to the FBI.

 

In other news, It was almost hilarious to watch Trump talk about "innocent until proved guilty" with the "Lock Her Up" soundtrack running in the background. 

It's equally funny that the left seems to think Kavanaugh is guilty unless proven innocent. You don't sing the same tune with Hillary.

 

You don’t like it when the Democrats use the same tactics the Republicans have used for decades? What most want is an honest and complete investigation.


 


 


You should be satisfied with 7 investigations already but the left wants a 8th with no time limits much as the Mueller witch hunt!


You haven’t been satisfied with the 8 investigations of Hillary and still want more and Hillary has been out of the picture for two years.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@PatriciaP164294 wrote:

"Come on 'fess up - it's all about the Dems looking to stall things until the elections in the hope of taking over the Congress and thereby control of the nomination process."

 

There does not seem to be a right wing talking point that you disagree with. If the "Dems were looking to stall things..."   Why did they not hold up Gorsuch? What was the rush to cram this guy through? (Gamble vs. USA) Why did they not release over 70% of the documents they asked for? When Sotimayor was nominated she had been a judge already for a number of years, the GOP asked for and got documents from her HIGH SCHOOL volunteer work. pretty ridiculous!!!!


Gorsuch was in a Presidential election your and long standing tradition is that when there is a Party split between the Congress and WH nominations do not occur in such years. That did not apply in the case Kavanaugh.


When did this ‘long standing tradition’ start? Obviously it wasn’t in effect in 1987 since Stevens was nominated by Reagan and confirmed by a Democratic Senate. Looking at history, this long standing tradition’ started in 2015.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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No, my argument is Ford didn't remember where she was, didn't remember when it happened, the people she said were there said they weren't, she didn't know how she got to the party, and didn't know how she got home. So, is the left's position that someone is guilty until proven innocent or ONLY if they are Conservatives?

 

Kavanaugh doesn't have to prove anything - his record is his proof.


You mean like Hillary?  All those fake charges (remember Benghazi?) and the worst they could say is that she was not careful enough handling confidential emails. 

 

When will Trump apologize to Ford for mocking her at a rally?


You are off topic, but - Hillary got off the hook due to the corruption of the DOJ under Obama. Trump did not mock her - her own words did, he merely repeated them.


What is the number of this conspiracy theory?


That's your only defense of her and the corrupted Obama DOJ?

 

And - how did the President mock Ford by quoting her own words? Seems like she mocked herself.


No, I just don’t believe stupid conspiracy theories. At least eight ‘investigations’ by the Republicans who hated Hillary with a passion were unable to turn up anything criminal and you blame the DOJ. I agree that the Republicans are incompetent but one would think that after 30 years of ‘investigating’ they would have stumbled onto one act that was criminal if any were to be found.


It wasn't me that brought Hillary into this. However, did classified data not get to Weiner's computer? Were subpoenaed emails not destroyed? Was there no a "tarmac summit"? Did Comey not say that she had violated the rules but he couldn't prove that she intended to?

 

Where is the "stupid conspiracy theory" in that.


You listed many in your first paragraph.


Did I???  Were emails under subpoena not destroyed?


Yes, you did. Hillary had nothing to do with the emails being destroyed at that time. The person who wiped the drive said that it was supposed to have been wiped months before and when he saw it had not been he did it then not knowing what was on the drive or that there was a subpoena for it.

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