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@PatriciaP164294 wrote:

"Come on 'fess up - it's all about the Dems looking to stall things until the elections in the hope of taking over the Congress and thereby control of the nomination process."

 

There does not seem to be a right wing talking point that you disagree with. If the "Dems were looking to stall things..."   Why did they not hold up Gorsuch? What was the rush to cram this guy through? (Gamble vs. USA) Why did they not release over 70% of the documents they asked for? When Sotimayor was nominated she had been a judge already for a number of years, the GOP asked for and got documents from her HIGH SCHOOL volunteer work. pretty ridiculous!!!!


Gorsuch was in a Presidential election your and long standing tradition is that when there is a Party split between the Congress and WH nominations do not occur in such years. That did not apply in the case Kavanaugh.

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@PatriciaP164294 wrote:

It wasn't me that brought Hillary into this. However, did classified data not get to Weiner's computer?

A few but Hillary Clinton did not send them. BTW for reference Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell BOTH had private e-mail servers at their homes. Then there is this little gem from Pence's hometown newspaper:

"When he was governor of Indiana, Vice President Pence used a private email account for official business. That private email account, which contains information too sensitive to be released to the public, was hacked last year.

Those revelations come to us from the Indianapolis Star, which filed public records requests while Pence was governor and just now received 29 pages of emails from Pence's AOL account.

 

Were subpoenaed emails not destroyed? No absolutely NO subpoena'd e-mails were destroyed.

 

Was there no a "tarmac summit"? No that was a right wing hit job blown out of porprotioin by Fox Entertainment Channel.

 

Did Comey not say that she had violated the rules but he couldn't prove that she intended to? Yes. Please look up "mens rea" it is a ket element in any crime. A few of the e-mails that were marked classified were subsequently declassified later.

 

Where is the "stupid conspiracy theory" in that.Hypocrisy  is more like it. The current President consucted business on an unsecured phone for the first several months he was in the White House by the way. The ruls should apply uniformly to everyone, not just your politoical opponents.


The emails were under subpoena, they were destroyed. What is your point?

 

The term "tarmac summit" - it happened and is Politico now part of that "vast right wing conspiracy"?  https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-white-house-josh-earnest-225008

 

Rice and Powell did not have private servers, they used private addresses on public providers. AOL for at least one of them. Hillary did have a private server. And Pence - again, private account not private server.

 

mens rea - that has been explored. It's called the "She is too stupid to know" defense. She was Secretary of State - how stupid could she possibly be about the handling of official material??

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Yet when you see all the liberals pushing a narrative for which they have no facts (re: Kavanaugh) that is acceptable to the libs? Even the people Ford said were present denied being there but the left knows all (they think).


And we will never have the facts if the GOP has anything to say about it.  We NEED an FBI investigation of this incident without the restrictions the Trump administration put on the fake one they just had. 

So now the left wants an 8th investigation of Kavanaugh? Trump stated the constraints on the last investigation: "talk to as many people as you want but get done in one week". You are always asking for proof of everything - so, show me the proof that Trump stood in the way of the last investigation. Oh, you can't find any?

But that is not the instructions he gave to the FBI.

 

In other news, It was almost hilarious to watch Trump talk about "innocent until proved guilty" with the "Lock Her Up" soundtrack running in the background. 

It's equally funny that the left seems to think Kavanaugh is guilty unless proven innocent. You don't sing the same tune with Hillary.

 

You don’t like it when the Democrats use the same tactics the Republicans have used for decades? What most want is an honest and complete investigation.


 


 


You should be satisfied with 7 investigations already but the left wants a 8th with no time limits much as the Mueller witch hunt!

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Did I???  Were emails under subpoena not destroyed?


Tell me again the story of Donald Trump stading up and saying everyone should be considered innocent until PROVED guilty. It is so funny with the "Lock her up" track playing in the background. 


Trump reminds me of the governor in the movie The Best Little **bleep** House In Texas. 


Your point is a bit vague. Do you not consider the destruction of emails under subpoena a crime??

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@Richva wrote:

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Did I???  Were emails under subpoena not destroyed?


Tell me again the story of Donald Trump stading up and saying everyone should be considered innocent until PROVED guilty. It is so funny with the "Lock her up" track playing in the background. 


Of course - the process for "lock her up" always involves a trial. I have never heard anyone suggesting otherwise.

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And yet another accusation...... "No wonder you are a proponent of wealth redistribution - seems you want his."

 

What she meant was people who are rich often get away with things people who are not rich do not get away with. It had nothing to do with youre snotty  sanctimonious "wealth redistribution" comment.

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"Come on 'fess up - it's all about the Dems looking to stall things until the elections in the hope of taking over the Congress and thereby control of the nomination process."

 

There does not seem to be a right wing talking point that you disagree with. If the "Dems were looking to stall things..."   Why did they not hold up Gorsuch? What was the rush to cram this guy through? (Gamble vs. USA) Why did they not release over 70% of the documents they asked for? When Sotimayor was nominated she had been a judge already for a number of years, the GOP asked for and got documents from her HIGH SCHOOL volunteer work. pretty ridiculous!!!!

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"No, my argument is Ford didn't remember where she was..."

She did not remember the address but did remember it was on a particular street.

 

"didn't remember when it happened..." Not the exact date but she did remember the month and year.

 

"the people she said were there said they weren't"  Absolutely untrue, her friend said she did not remember the party but believes her account of what happened.

 

"she didn't know how she got to the party, and didn't know how she got home."

True.

 

So, is the left's position that someone is guilty until proven innocent or ONLY if they are Conservatives? This is NOT a trial it was a hearing so the does not apply.

 

Kavanaugh doesn't have to prove anything - his record is his proof. Hi judicial records has nothing to do with his personal behavior.

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It wasn't me that brought Hillary into this. However, did classified data not get to Weiner's computer?

A few but Hillary Clinton did not send them. BTW for reference Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell BOTH had private e-mail servers at their homes. Then there is this little gem from Pence's hometown newspaper:

"When he was governor of Indiana, Vice President Pence used a private email account for official business. That private email account, which contains information too sensitive to be released to the public, was hacked last year.

Those revelations come to us from the Indianapolis Star, which filed public records requests while Pence was governor and just now received 29 pages of emails from Pence's AOL account.

 

Were subpoenaed emails not destroyed? No absolutely NO subpoena'd e-mails were destroyed.

 

Was there no a "tarmac summit"? No that was a right wing hit job blown out of porprotioin by Fox Entertainment Channel.

 

Did Comey not say that she had violated the rules but he couldn't prove that she intended to? Yes. Please look up "mens rea" it is a ket element in any crime. A few of the e-mails that were marked classified were subsequently declassified later.

 

Where is the "stupid conspiracy theory" in that.Hypocrisy  is more like it. The current President consucted business on an unsecured phone for the first several months he was in the White House by the way. The ruls should apply uniformly to everyone, not just your politoical opponents.

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@Richva said : is unfortunate what happens to the families of men who attempt rape. It really is not THEIR fault.

Accept when they know it to be True and they Side with them, and help make up Alibis for them.
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