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So far from an analogy - you batted OUT! Vaccines have proven to work (most of the time). Wasting $9+ trillion dollars per year with no guess as to the outcome is both stupid and foolish to all that have to pay!


For starters, there would be less pollution.   All those in favor of pollution, raise their hands. 

 

If we can (and have) predicted what happens when you dump all those greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, we can predict what will happen when we stop dumping them. In short, yes, we know what will happen. My recommendation is to stop complaining about the cost of fixing your roof and find a way to pay for it. 


 


What pollution?  Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.

 

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@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:


So far from an analogy - you batted OUT! Vaccines have proven to work (most of the time). Wasting $9+ trillion dollars per year with no guess as to the outcome is both stupid and foolish to all that have to pay!


For starters, there would be less pollution.   All those in favor of pollution, raise their hands. 

 

If we can (and have) predicted what happens when you dump all those greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, we can predict what will happen when we stop dumping them. In short, yes, we know what will happen. My recommendation is to stop complaining about the cost of fixing your roof and find a way to pay for it. 


Be responsible and take care of your OWN roof and not worry about passing laws that affect other's roofs. You can predict what happens but you don't know what happens, if anything! Try wasting your OWN money and not other's money!

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:


So far from an analogy - you batted OUT! Vaccines have proven to work (most of the time). Wasting $9+ trillion dollars per year with no guess as to the outcome is both stupid and foolish to all that have to pay!


For starters, there would be less pollution.   All those in favor of pollution, raise their hands. 

 

If we can (and have) predicted what happens when you dump all those greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, we can predict what will happen when we stop dumping them. In short, yes, we know what will happen. My recommendation is to stop complaining about the cost of fixing your roof and find a way to pay for it. 

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@williamb39198 wrote:

Here’s a difference between the climate changers versus climate deniers:

If climate change advocates are wrong, then the world will carry on as is (very questionable).

If the climate deniers are wrong, then we are all *******, and there’s no immediate fix or going back...are all of you are willing to gamble with our lives and those of future generations? That’s very selfish and shortsighted!

 

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Here's the real difference between the "Climate Acceptors" (globalists) and the "Climate Questioners". If the Climate Acceptors are convincing enough, each person in the U.S. must pony up an additional $27K per year to pay for "the new green deal" (estimated cost is $9+ trillion per year). With the new green deal, the climate may not change and you will all be bankrupt. With the climate questioners, you don't bankrupt the country and the climate will either get worse or better (who knows - certainly the left doesn't)!

 

It is remarkable to me how closely this argument mirrors the anti-vaccine crowd. "Let's not get our children vaccinated.  What's the worst that could happen?"


 


So far from an analogy - you batted OUT! Vaccines have proven to work (most of the time). Wasting $9+ trillion dollars per year with no guess as to the outcome is both stupid and foolish to all that have to pay!

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

Here’s a difference between the climate changers versus climate deniers:

If climate change advocates are wrong, then the world will carry on as is (very questionable).

If the climate deniers are wrong, then we are all *******, and there’s no immediate fix or going back...are all of you are willing to gamble with our lives and those of future generations? That’s very selfish and shortsighted!

 

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Here's the real difference between the "Climate Acceptors" (globalists) and the "Climate Questioners". If the Climate Acceptors are convincing enough, each person in the U.S. must pony up an additional $27K per year to pay for "the new green deal" (estimated cost is $9+ trillion per year). With the new green deal, the climate may not change and you will all be bankrupt. With the climate questioners, you don't bankrupt the country and the climate will either get worse or better (who knows - certainly the left doesn't)!

 

It is remarkable to me how closely this argument mirrors the anti-vaccine crowd. "Let's not get our children vaccinated.  What's the worst that could happen?"


 

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@williamb39198 wrote:

Here’s a difference between the climate changers versus climate deniers:

If climate change advocates are wrong, then the world will carry on as is (very questionable).

If the climate deniers are wrong, then we are all *******, and there’s no immediate fix or going back...are all of you are willing to gamble with our lives and those of future generations? That’s very selfish and shortsighted!

 

Never Forget


Here's the real difference between the "Climate Acceptors" (globalists) and the "Climate Questioners". If the Climate Acceptors are convincing enough, each person in the U.S. must pony up an additional $27K per year to pay for "the new green deal" (estimated cost is $9+ trillion per year). With the new green deal, the climate may not change and you will all be bankrupt. With the climate questioners, you don't bankrupt the country and the climate will either get worse or better (who knows - certainly the left doesn't)!

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Here’s a difference between the climate changers versus climate deniers:

If climate change advocates are wrong, then the world will carry on as is (very questionable).

If the climate deniers are wrong, then we are all *******, and there’s no immediate fix or going back...are all of you are willing to gamble with our lives and those of future generations? That’s very selfish and shortsighted!

 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Once again the Regressives try and pass off someone OUTSIDE the field as an authority on climatology, one who publishes in German no less.

 

The fact climate models are run using different variables and produce the same results (e.g., that Man's greenhouse gas production causes global warming) is hardly a disproof of the models.

 

The earlier rants from the Regressives that the climate models predicted higher than observed changes have now been totally debunked. As more precise measurements prove the warming of the planet, in particular the melting of the ice caps, is proceeding MUCH more rapidly than we thought just a year ago is just one example of how the imagined "problems" with the science are themselves being disproven.

 

Nothing new with such nay-sayers, many disbelieved Galileo in the 17th century and lots of Republicans still do in the 21st Century.


Now that you've nailed down the situation and the solution, about how much tax money will fix the problem? Is $9 trillion per year enough to fix the problem?

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 You’re right about every other country. They want their sugar daddy-uncle Sam to redistribute his wealth into their grimy hands.

 Now many scientists believe climate change is what killed a lot of the dinosaurs. Also, the Sahara desert, 5500 years ago was a rain forest. Did Exxon mobile cause that drastic change?

Certainly, we should do everything in our power to conserve resources, recycle whenever and wherever we can  The notion however, that the world is going to end in 12 years is pure idiocy...Unless liberals are elected into office, as a majority. Now thats a real and present danger to the continuation of the human race.


Interesting thought about other countries.  How much money do they earn every time we reduce our output of pollution? How does that redistribute wealth into their grimy hands? 

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Climate change has become a religion practiced by the left that seems only interested in redistributing the wealth of the westernized countries.  Look at the environment in the US today and outside of some very unique areas we have clean air and water.  I quit wasting my time with the folks that refuse to actually look at the techniques the "Paid for" so called scientist base their reporting on.


Oh my god! The bad, bad "left" are at their shenanigans again and now they've got every other country on this planet practicing the same "religion".  The horror of it all!

 

Puh-leeze.

 


 You’re right about every other country. They want their sugar daddy-uncle Sam to redistribute his wealth into their grimy hands.

 Now many scientists believe climate change is what killed a lot of the dinosaurs. Also, the Sahara desert, 5500 years ago was a rain forest. Did Exxon mobile cause that drastic change?

Certainly, we should do everything in our power to conserve resources, recycle whenever and wherever we can  The notion however, that the world is going to end in 12 years is pure idiocy...Unless liberals are elected into office, as a majority. Now thats a real and present danger to the continuation of the human race.


Nobody has said that the world is literally ending in 12 years.  Another invalid talking point.  As far as the rest of what you wrote, you really need to study what caused a lot of what you are talking about and how we are now changing our present to match the past.  For example, the Sahara turned into a desert due to a shift in weather patterns.

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