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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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And what are we all planning to do to Al Jolson  are we now going to berate him and insult him for signing with a black face?


One of the greatest singers of modern times.  Black-face minstrel show were also popular venues even when I was growing up.  I recall my parents taking us to shows put on by our local Jaycees during the late 1940s as fund-raisers. 

 

Those were the days when we wasn't supposed to be offended by every small transgression as prescribed by a small group of people. 


Actually, during that time frame is when the Klan and their terrorist activities peaked, but I am sure you will not consider that relevant.  As far as your "fund raisers", in the 40's minstrel shows were still common.  So, just because you weren't offended by your local Jaycees doesn't mean that what they were doing was right.  How about if somebody chooses to make fun of your heritage and takes away your job while doing it?  Would that be considered entertainment?  How many minstrel shows in the 40's actually had minority performers?  Fast forward a few years and you may remember when Asians and Indians were portrayed on TV by Caucasians in make-up with bad accents.  Did that make it right?

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@rker321 wrote:

And what are we all planning to do to Al Jolson  are we now going to berate him and insult him for signing with a black face?


One of the greatest singers of modern times.  Black-face minstrel show were also popular venues even when I was growing up.  I recall my parents taking us to shows put on by our local Jaycees during the late 1940s as fund-raisers. 

 

Those were the days when we wasn't supposed to be offended by every small transgression as prescribed by a small group of people. 

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@rker321 wrote:

And what are we all planning to do to Al Jolson  are we now going to berate him and insult him for signing with a black face?


Jolson did the Jazz Singer in the 1920s during the second coming of the Ku Klux Klan.  As an example, The Birth of a Nation was made in 1915 and is one of the most racist films of all time (it actually helped restart the KKK).  Are you saying that we shouldn't consider it to be the racist garbage that it is?  For the Jazz Singer, I would first blame the producer more than the actor, but that is up to you.  Jolson shouldn't be celebrated for his black face performances, but, since it was common during his time, I don't know how much to vilify him for them either.

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Whoopi wasn't offended.jpgWhoopi was offended when Ted Dannsen did this.


1.  This was at a Friar's club roast in the early 90s where almost anything goes.

2.  The two were a involved in a relationship at this point and were a couple.

3.  Danson's performance bombed and he received a lot of negative press.

4.  Danson and Goldberg broke up about a month later.


This from Wikipedia might be interesting:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Danson#Relationship_with_Whoopi_Goldberg

 

Danson experienced substantial negative press attention on October 8, 1993, after his appearance in blackface at a Friars Club comedy roast in honor of Goldberg. In his monologue, Danson made extensive use of offensive racial stereotypes, used the word "***** " more than a dozen times, and ate a watermelon, angering such guests as Montel Williams and Mayor David Dinkins.Goldberg defended the sketch, explaining that she had helped write much of the material and referred Danson to the makeup artist who painted his face.


And what would her reaction have been if she was not involved with Danson?  The audience was not amused and felt it was in extremely poor taste.

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And what are we all planning to do to Al Jolson  are we now going to berate him and insult him for signing with a black face?

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@sp362 wrote:

@Soosie wrote:

Whoopi wasn't offended.jpgWhoopi was offended when Ted Dannsen did this.


1.  This was at a Friar's club roast in the early 90s where almost anything goes.

2.  The two were a involved in a relationship at this point and were a couple.

3.  Danson's performance bombed and he received a lot of negative press.

4.  Danson and Goldberg broke up about a month later.


This from Wikipedia might be interesting:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Danson#Relationship_with_Whoopi_Goldberg

 

Danson experienced substantial negative press attention on October 8, 1993, after his appearance in blackface at a Friars Club comedy roast in honor of Goldberg. In his monologue, Danson made extensive use of offensive racial stereotypes, used the word "***** " more than a dozen times, and ate a watermelon, angering such guests as Montel Williams and Mayor David Dinkins.Goldberg defended the sketch, explaining that she had helped write much of the material and referred Danson to the makeup artist who painted his face.

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So ?


Apparently if one black person is not offended by racism, then it’s not racist. Doesn’t matter m, apparently, that most other black people there were outraged and shocked. 

 

The anecdote of one is all it takes to defend racism.  That’s just how powerful racism is. 

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Dragging up old pictures?  Oops.  Look what it did to Gov. Northram.

 

BTW, the caption reads Whoopi was offended when Ted Dannsen [sic] did this.



    

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@Soosie wrote:

Whoopi wasn't offended.jpgWhoopi was offended when Ted Dannsen did this.


1.  This was at a Friar's club roast in the early 90s where almost anything goes.

2.  The two were a involved in a relationship at this point and were a couple.

3.  Danson's performance bombed and he received a lot of negative press.

4.  Danson and Goldberg broke up about a month later.

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So ?

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