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@Laurie42010 wrote:

I find myself, which I know it was always there just not as "active", HOW the heck did we get to this point in our timeline of life? I really felt that we as people were evolving and progressing to a better understanding of eachother and where/how we became the humans species we are. I'm sorry but it made me sick to my stomach when I see the president giving the thumbs up, while the first lady holds a baby that just lost his parents from an act of terrorism?!

trump and melania holding baby of el paso victims.jpegSo...what's the thumbs up for????


How did this happen? A White Nationalist racist bigot full of hate was elected into the White House and it has emboldened this trait in others. Hate breeds hate.  The solution?  Get the White Nationalist out of our White House.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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I find myself, which I know it was always there just not as "active", HOW the heck did we get to this point in our timeline of life? I really felt that we as people were evolving and progressing to a better understanding of eachother and where/how we became the humans species we are. I'm sorry but it made me sick to my stomach when I see the president giving the thumbs up, while the first lady holds a baby that just lost his parents from an act of terrorism?!

trump and melania holding baby of el paso victims.jpegSo...what's the thumbs up for????

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@afisher wrote:

   Meanwhile the supposed leader of this country is not acting responsible.    He seems to be divorced from the reality of what his and his regime are perpetrating.   

    I read the statements of Ali Soufan - an expert who was a member of the FBI for decades.   9/11 changed his life.    http://www.soufangroup.com/intelbrief-el-paso-texas-and-the-scourge-of-radical-right-wing-extremism/

 

    Only when the GOP "leaders" say enough and decide to act like adults and demand action against the white nationalism terrorist will there be any pressure on donald to act like an adult and think about anyone but himself.  

 

     As Ali writes:   while the FBI writes about white nationalists are terrorists, we have irresponsible Senators:   Even as the threat posed by radical right-wing extremism surges in the U.S., Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Senator Bill Cassidy (R-Louisiana) have decided to devote their energy on passing legislation that would brand left-wing agitators collectively known as ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organization.

 

      I fear that our nation will be forever changed as we travel down a very dark period of hate based on white folks insecurities.  :-(


Of course members of the Nazi wing of the NRAGOP will try and bring the power of Government to stop those who oppose Nazis in America. But since Putin and Cambridge Analytical learned how to install a Nazi as ToadPOTUS, the ANTIFA movement is of no real concern to the GOPerLords...until they, like the Gauleiters before them, realize giving power to a Hitler may not be the smartest move they could make.

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And we are certainly getting no help from fascist trump and senate repubs. 

Remember their oath to “protect from threats, whether foreign or domestic”...

they apparently don’t and ignore!

Whether the threats are foreign or domestic, if they are intending harm to US citizens, they are threats. 

Other than where they originate or their methods, how are they different?

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Hate of another person is indeed fear driven. We are not born as babies to hate; we learn to.
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   Meanwhile the supposed leader of this country is not acting responsible.    He seems to be divorced from the reality of what his and his regime are perpetrating.   

    I read the statements of Ali Soufan - an expert who was a member of the FBI for decades.   9/11 changed his life.    http://www.soufangroup.com/intelbrief-el-paso-texas-and-the-scourge-of-radical-right-wing-extremism/

 

    Only when the GOP "leaders" say enough and decide to act like adults and demand action against the white nationalism terrorist will there be any pressure on donald to act like an adult and think about anyone but himself.  

 

     As Ali writes:   while the FBI writes about white nationalists are terrorists, we have irresponsible Senators:   Even as the threat posed by radical right-wing extremism surges in the U.S., Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Senator Bill Cassidy (R-Louisiana) have decided to devote their energy on passing legislation that would brand left-wing agitators collectively known as ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organization.

 

      I fear that our nation will be forever changed as we travel down a very dark period of hate based on white folks insecurities.  :-(

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There have been more mass shootings than days in 2019 There have been nearly 250 mass shootings so far this year — and more than 32,000 shootings overall 45M ago......

(CBS reporting)  

 

Surely,  there are hunters who are new to this activity  or have been hunting for decades that never used an assault weapon to hunt with.     

 

I don't really see the point or pleasure anyone gets from killing something but hunting isn't going away but for cry-n-out-loud we need to stop the killing of  innocent people.  

 

pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop    NINE PEOPLE DEAD in OHIO quicker than I can even say the word POP nine times.  

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I thought we were more civilized than this, but obviously we aren’t. It’s only going to get worse as whites become less dominant in our country, and no longer the majority. It’s fear driven, in my opinion. 

 

“When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression”

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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/08/retired-marine-4-star-warns-white-nationalist-terrori...

 

Retired Marine 4-Star Warns White Nationalist Terrorism Is a Threat Equal to ISIS

 

 

Two former U.S. officials who led the global fight against the Islamic State are warning Americans about a new threat to the homeland: homegrown white nationalist terrorism.

 

Retired Marine Gen. John Allen and Brett McGurk, both of whom served as special presidential envoys for the global coalition taking on ISIS, said in a Washington Post op-ed that the word "terrorism" must be used to describe the new national security threats facing the country from white supremacist groups.

 

"The terrorist acts may differ from Islamic State attacks in degree, but they are similar in kind: driven by hateful narratives, dehumanization, the rationalization of violence and the glorification of murder, combined with ready access to recruits and weapons of war," they wrote Tuesday.

 

Their warning follows federal authorities' announcement that they're treating Saturday's mass shooting at a shopping center in El Paso, Texas, as a domestic terrorism case. The suspect in the attack, who allegedly posted a racist manifesto before the shooting, could also face hate-crime charges.

 

Allen, who served for nearly four decades before retiring in 2013, commanded Marines in Iraq and oversaw the NATO-led mission in Afghanization. About a year later, President Barack Obama named him the special presidential envoy for the global coalition against ISIS. While he was in that position for 15 months, the coalition grew to 65 members.

 

Allen later endorsed Hillary Clinton for president during the 2016 campaign.

 

McGurk, a former diplomat who has served in key national security positions under Presidents George W. Bush, Obama and Donald Trump, took over for Allen in 2015. He remained in the position until December, when he resigned following Trump's sudden announcement that he wished to withdraw troops from Syria.

 

The U.S. must take a leadership role in overcoming white nationalist terrorism before it gets worse, Allen and McGurk wrote. Left unchecked, they say it could result in bigger attacks similar to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, which killed 168 people.

 

"The country now confronts a national security emergency on par with the Islamic State threat," they added, which requires leadership at every government level.

 

"It demands moral clarity and a call from the Oval Office directing all assets of the federal government to develop a comprehensive, long-term campaign to protect all Americans," the op-ed states. "If the president will not act, then Congress and state and local governments must instead.

"The matter is too urgent to wait for new national leadership -- at stake is nothing less than the protection of the American people and our way of life," it continues.

 

ISIS has largely been defeated thanks to a comprehensive plan involving all departments and agencies in the U.S. government to vanquish it on the battlefield, Allen and McGurk said. The same approach is now needed to defeat white nationalist terrorism, they say, which has claimed lives in attacks in El Paso, South Carolina, Norway and New Zealand.

 

Officials at the Department of Homeland Security have made attempts to combat domestic terror threats from white supremist groups, CNN reported Wednesday. But the Trump administration has sought to focus on jihadist threats, the outlet reported, citing unnamed sources.

 

Trump has downplayed the threat posed by white nationalist groups, even as some accuse him of fanning anti-immigrant sentiment among Americans. When a gunman was accused of killing 49 people at a New Zealand mosque in March, Trump expressed sympathy but said he saw no evidence that white nationalism was on the rise.

 

"I think it's a small group of people that have very, very serious problems," he said at the time.

On Wednesday, he said he's concerned about the rise of any hate group, including white supremacists or anti-fascist groups. He denied that his rhetoric has played a role in emboldening any of them.

 

"I think my rhetoric brings people together," the president said.

 

The military has shown some recent signs of racist and white supremacist behavior in the ranks.

Coast Guard Lt. Christopher Hasson, a self-described white supremacist, was arrested in April for allegedly plotting to kill Democratic politicians and famous broadcast journalists.

 

In May, Hawaii-based Marine Lance Cpl. Mason Mead was awaiting discharge after pleading guilty to advocating supremacist ideology when he was caught posting Nazi propaganda and other racist items online.

 

In January, a Coast Guard officer was punished for flashing a white supremacy hand signal on live TV while another service member was being interviewed about the military's response to the deadly Hurricane Florence.

 

And Air Force Staff Sgt. Geraldine Lovely was recently booted from the service for posting a profanity-laced rant about black female subordinates last year.

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