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This thread illustrates the importance of responsibility of our "Free Press" to report the facts and leave the subjective part on the cutting room floor...  

 

Just sain'.

 

 

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RK, here are some simple YES or NO questions for you.

 

  • Did Trump Jr. LIE about the purpose of the meeting?
  • Did Trump Jr. LIE about the memo?
  • Did Donald Trump lie about the memo?
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@Tom5678 wrote:
No she won't, you live in a fantasy world my friend. Trump is under a criminal investigation, which is not complete and ongoing. Hillary is not. The GOP is desperate though to try to find something, anything to make it stick to Hillary, but no luck. They should focus on Trump instead.

And there it is - proof of what I just posted. Trump is guilty because Mueller is out to get him; Hillary is innocent because Mueller is not out to get her.

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@easyed598 wrote:

Even if Trump got dirt on Hllary it wasn`t illegal. Hillary paid millions to get dirt on Trump  with fake dossier from Russian spy.  Hillary and her conspirators will be in legal trouble before the end of year.


All true. But since Mueller is not out to get Hillary, none of that counts to the cult of hatred.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

If you don't live in the alternate reality of Trump World, you know the stories have been changing over time. I love it when RK denies that he believed Trump Jr's. initial make believe story of a meeting on adoption. Who does that sound like?


I'm sure must folks get it. But, just for ct - one more time. She offered dirt, she was given a meeting, she switched the topic, they walked. It's not all that hard.

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No she won't, you live in a fantasy world my friend. Trump is under a criminal investigation, which is not complete and ongoing. Hillary is not. The GOP is desperate though to try to find something, anything to make it stick to Hillary, but no luck. They should focus on Trump instead.
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Even if Trump got dirt on Hllary it wasn`t illegal. Hillary paid millions to get dirt on Trump  with fake dossier from Russian spy.  Hillary and her conspirators will be in legal trouble before the end of year.

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First, lets eliminate the Republican fantasy that somehow getting dirt on Hillary from the KGB was LEGAL. Here's what 18USC 953 has to say on the matter:

 

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

 

In addition there's this little gem in Federal law which says: it a crime for any person to "solicit, accept or receive" a contribution or "anything of value" from a foreign person for a U.S. political campaign or "for the purpose of influencing any election for federal office."

 

Der Trumper has been lying his orange posterior off since day one on this - first IT NEVER HAPPENED.

 

Then after Jared's drunken confession to the Austrailian Ambassador, established beyond dout it HAD happened,  Trump said he never heard of it.

 

Then he wrote his son's BS story about it being about adoption, now the meeting WAS about conspiring with Russia, but IT WAS LEGAL.

 

Then RudyG lets us know there was a planning meeting attended by jr, Jared, Flynn et al, to set strategy for how to negotiate for the "dirt on Hillary".

 

Then Der Trumper announces a there will be damaging evidence against Hillary any day now just before the Russian's stolen data is released by Wikileaks.

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This is a great explanation of why the Trump Tower meeting is going to be bad news for Trump.

 

 

 

"The ban on foreign national involvement in federal elections is exceptionally broad. It applies to any spending to affect an election: The prohibition applies to “contributions,” “expenditures,” “donations,” and “disbursements.” A “contribution” for this purpose includes any “thing of value.” The rules reach “promises” of such spending whether express or “implied,” and to campaign spending provided either directly or “indirectly.”

This basic prohibition extends even to foreign national “participation” in the decisions that a U.S. national makes about election-related spending. . . .

Congress has enacted and reenacted the foreign-national prohibition in 1966, 1974 and 2002, seeking on each occasion to strengthen it. So the lawyer reviewing a contact between the campaign and a foreign national—particularly a foreign national with apparent ties to a foreign government—would understand that the rules in question are not among the backwater provisions of the law, under-enforced relics of the aged and discredited regulations. The lawyer would also be familiar with the congressional investigations and criminal investigations that arose out of allegations that China developed and implemented a plan to influence the course of the 1996 presidential election. And, finally, he or she would keep in mind that the Supreme Court recently affirmed in Bluman v. Federal Election Commission the constitutionality of these draconian legal controls."

 

More at the link.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/08/03/why-no-competent-lawyer-wouldve-allowe...

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If you don't live in the alternate reality of Trump World, you know the stories have been changing over time. I love it when RK denies that he believed Trump Jr's. initial make believe story of a meeting on adoption. Who does that sound like?

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