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What is "proactive arresting"?

    HUH, that is the excuse that the "acting" DHS is saying is necessary to arrest people who are at a mostly peaceful protest - well until the police ( we know not what agency because they refuse to Wear ID) start throwing smoke bombs etc - ? crowd control or crowd panic?   

 

    Isn't that what the Nazi did in Germany to people of the Jewish faith?  https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/dhs-chief-says-his-federal-agents-are-proactively-arresting-peopl...

 

 

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According to The Legal Information Institute,  Probable cause is a requirement found in the Fourth Amendment that must usually be met before police make an arrest, conduct a search, or receive a warrant . Courts usually find probable cause when there is a reasonable basis for believing that a crime may have been committed (for an arrest) or when evidence of the crime is present in the place to be searched (for a search). Under exigent circumstances, probable cause can also justify a warrantless search and seizure. Persons arrested without a warrant are required to be brought before a competent authority shortly after the arrest for a prompt judicial determination of probable cause.

 

GOPerBots seem unaware of the "past tense" associated with Probable Cause. And Peaceful Protest, or being on the street, does NOT constitute "exigent circumstances" defined as "circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry (or other relevant prompt action) was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons, the destruction of relevant evidence, the escape of the suspect, or some other consequence improperly frustrating legitimate law enforcement efforts.

 

The dictionary definition of "proactive is" creating or controlling a situation by causing something to happen rather than responding to it after it has happened. Clearly this is what tRump has in mind as a Mission Statement for his Anonymous Nazis of tRump - creating chaos where none existed - BUT only a dolt like donny Bonespurs would claim a Constitutional basis for Gestapo tactics in America.

 

Just as clearly, the real reason the Thugs have no ID is they would serve hard time for the crimes they are committing on behalf of the ToadPOTUS IF THEY COULD BE IDENTIFIED FOR LATER PROSECUTION.

 

Now, just to bring it all home, the PROTESTS are against POLICE BRUTALITY AND EXCEEDING THE LEGAL LIMITS OF THEIR POWERS AS POLICE. Anyone still wonder why toads ANts are provoking INCREASED protesting?

 

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"Liberals are like Jellyfish, no brains still surviving"

 

Another "Christian-like" proverb.  Which book is that from?


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The book is... "Denial is not a river in Egypt"

 

"If you tell the truth to soon your mocked and laughed at... too late and you're likely to be stoned"


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

"Liberals are like Jellyfish, no brains still surviving"

 

Another "Christian-like" proverb.  Which book is that from?


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Yup, yup!  I'm sure that is a direct quote from The Trump Handbook of Liberal Engagement. For Chapter 101, page 57, Rule #1 says, "At every occasion and/or encounter, insult, berate, and generally bully your liberal enemy.  Forget that he or she is an equal American citizen and thus your brother or sister." 

 

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@LydiaN586309 wrote:

In response to @Fishslayer777 's quote:

"Liberals are like Jellyfish, no brains still surviving"

 

@Centristsin2010  said,

Another "Christian-like" proverb.  Which book is that from?


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Yup, yup!  I'm sure that is a direct quote from The Trump Handbook of Liberal Engagement. For Chapter 101, page 57, Rule #1 says, "At every occasion and/or encounter, insult, berate, and generally bully your liberal enemy.  Forget that he or she is an equal American citizen and thus your brother or sister." 

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Then @Fishslayer777  said, 

 

@LydiaN586309,  I need that book!"

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"Exactly!  And why am I not surprised?"

 

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@LydiaN586309 

 

I need that book! So many liberals so little time. 


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Republicans believe their Lord Toad AllMighty has embued his ANtS (Anonymous Nazis of tRump) with supernatural abilities to identify people who are on the verge of committing a crime and arrest them based on that amorphous feeling to reduce actual crime.

 

What the ANts are REALLY doing is gassing, beating, binding and occasionally actually arresting anyone exercising their Constitutional Right to protest peacefully and demand a redress of their grievances.

 

The actions of tRump's Gestapo is INTENDED to provoke those being harassed into a violent reaction, thereby giving a totally false justification for the beating, gassing, binding and arresting of INNOCENT American Citizens along with videos of their actions that really get Donny Bonespurs hyped.

 

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What you are seeing is the march by Trump and his crew to total Dictatorship. Go read what Hitler did and you will see the same thing.

For the last 3 years I have laid out many times what Trump will do, and he is doing it.

Just notice who Trump uses as his SS in Portland. They come from law enforcement who works on the border, and ICE interment centers. They are used to policing people that are not like them. They put kids in cages, stole kids from their families, and mistreated the people they dealt with. They served in the Trump version of Consternation Camps run by ICE.

  I have told all for the last 3 years Trump was training this group as his SS force, and now you see it come together. Trump is acting just as he always planned to in destroying the country and taking over as Dictator.

Do all forget the concentration camps Trump had the Navy build for him to hold up to 100,000 people some years ago. We had a poster give us all the details on that as she was in a group who was taking care of Navy personnel dogs while they were away. Well guess what now there is a good chance you will see the camps used to the limit. We hear this evening Trump has moved more of his SS in to city in Washington State to do the same thing.

What we are seeing is just what some of us said would happen. Trump is do different than Hitler, and he does just what Hitler did in taking over Germany.

Is it to late to stop him. I am not sure but I am sure Trump is getting ready to take over the USA if he wants to just like Hitler did in Germany. Lets hope Mary is correct when she tells us if he realizes that he will loose really big, big, big he might just leave. Lets all strive to keep his approval rate to close to zero as possible.

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As practiced by the Anonymous Nazis of tRump in Portland, it means arresting people you find offensive for some reason,  any reason, doesn't matter if crime is involved or not. Its what tRump ordered them to do so the violence would increase.

 

Why would he do that?

 

The gutless Toad is trying to fire up his base with shadows from 1968 and the anti-War movement hoping this time people will feel patriotic by supporting his war against racial equality and the rule of Law like some did supporting the first worthless war we were lied into.

 

Given the overwhelming support for BLM (63%) and improved racial equality (69%), Toad has as much chance pulling that off as he does of managing a successful business.

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What is "proactive arresting"?

 

 

Says it right in the article,  proactive arrests are a pre crime measure. 

 

Not that hard to figure out.

 

If you arrest everyone driving a car no one can speed.

 

The Constitution?

 

That's what Trump wipes his butt with.

 

 

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Not all arrests wind up with folks in jail. Sometimes it's and arrest, taken into custody... and then released. 

 

It's not unusual when the intent is defuse a situation and prevent crime. Isn't that the more desired role of law enforcement/police? CRIME PREVENTION?

 

Do I have it wrong?


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Not all arrests wind up with folks in jail. Sometimes it's and arrest, taken into custody... and then released.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/23/894953202/order-tem... 

 

Order Temporarily Blocks Feds From Targeting Press And Legal Observers In Portland

 

Sometimes they have to shoot the press and legal observers to stop crime before it happens.

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Think Tom Cruise made a movie about this, but in the movie the arrests had infinitely more justification.

 

tRump's ANts (Anonymous Nazis of tRump) just beat and gas anyone in a crowd (including groups of Mothers),  and throw a bag over their head and drive them around for a while when they catch them alone.

 

So far the ANts are treating the Judges order with all the respect Toad gives to SCOTUS when they tell him things he doesn't want to hear - that is, NO RESPECT.

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The rioters have been launching projectiles and 'shooting' lasers at police and federal authorities... if that's what you mean. 


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Fishslayer wrote:

Not all arrests wind up with folks in jail. Sometimes it's and arrest, taken into custody... and then released.

 

 

 

@gruffstuff Sometimes they have to shoot the press and legal observers to stop crime before it happens.

 

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That is an INTENTIONAL false narrative. You made that up because your intention is division. NO ONE is getting shot. Arrests are being made, but again... NO ONE IS GETTING SHOT!!!

 

 


 


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"Proactive arresting" isn't a real thing law enforcement can use. It's a violation of the 4th Amendment to arrest someone without probable cause. This is the sort of garbage that happens when Trump appoints an unconfirmable know-nothing like Chad Wolf to head an agency like DHS.

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Proactive arresting?  LOL!  I'm gonna try that excuse on my next date, "proactive coitus".

 

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For trump and barr it means that you can do whatever you want without regard to laws or the Constitution. 
As you state, similar to the nazis, and what putin, and xi are doing....

can you say, dictatorship!

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Well the rioters have been carrying poles/sticks holding signs that have been sharpened into stabbing weapons, frozen water bottles as projectiles in coolers, umbrellas with tips sharpened, siphon hoses for gasoline to make molotov cocktails, fire works, etc. 

 

None of those 'things' are illegal (maybe fireworks), but who doesn't know what they're intended for? no one. 

 

I expect plausible deniability and obtuseness from y'all.


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

Well the rioters have been carrying poles/sticks holding signs that have been sharpened into stabbing weapons, frozen water bottles as projectiles in coolers, umbrellas with tips sharpened, siphon hoses for gasoline to make molotov cocktails, fire works, etc. 

 

None of those 'things' are illegal (maybe fireworks), but who doesn't know what they're intended for? no one. 

 

I expect plausible deniability and obtuseness from y'all.


Kinda like when Trump supporters broke into state capitols carrying nooses and brandishing assault rifles .... But under direction of Trump to "liberate the states"!!!

 

 

 

 

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