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@ManicProgressive wrote:

 

What do you do to help homeless? 


I believe I only mentioned that these illegals coming into our country are like the homeless.  Like someone violates laws about private property and invading private homes.  Immigration laws are much like that, instead breaking into the borders of our country. 

 

You were attempting to pull at the heartstrings here by bringing up about conditions in their countries.  Yet they refuse to work to improve conditions instead going to the promised land of milk and honey. 

 

You have mentioned that you have spent some time and traveled in some of these type countries, but have you actually lived among the people for longer periods and gotten to know them well.  Then you threw in about being married to an immigrant...so am I, and she warned me about some things I'm posting about.

 

My brother-in-law escaped from Vietnam, but was sent back from Hong Kong by the UN.  He actually came out ahead by going back, ending up as a millionaire in Vietnamese currency.  He did this by going into business.  Much better than he could have done here in this country.

 

As far as reaching out, we have been sending funds to help the children of Vietnamese who were permanently injured by land mines left behind by our military in Vietnam. They were injured as children when tending Water Buffalo by stepping on these mines in the 'boondocks'.  Those helping us are acquaintances who we could trust it's used for the intended purpose.

 

Don't you think that it's best to help them to alleviate their problems themselves in their home country instead of their coming here while leaving the problems for others to deal with?

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For ONCE someone didn't say blame Obama, or Blame the Democrats. It has been going on for years so lets stop for once putting the blame where it doesn't belong and put it where IT DOES belong. Some how some one needs to get it fixed, and the Trumpster said he was a fixer, but some of his ways are just cruel and mean. Leave the kids alone, they were born and didn't ask to be in this mess.
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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

 It's a real question that YOU choose to internalize, presumably because it effects you.  Do you have an answer to the point or just attack the one raising the question.  I do note your entire post is "personalizing" the valid point.

Perfect example of projection on your part, especially since you took this discussion off-topic by making it about another poster.  One has to wonder why a poster would do so, and continue the projection.  Would it be for the attention? 

 

Why is it you refuse to discuss the topic of Snopes article, instead making it about another poster?  That reminds me of kids on the playground instead of a senior citizen's forum.

 

Guess you still don't want to return to a civil discussion, but is intent of escalating the rhetoric? 

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Well, are we not the land of opportunity anymore?  Best ditch that National Anthem altogether if that's the case.


My general question I have been asking that no one will answer...are you willing to practice what you are saying....this country has many homeless so are you willing to let them move in your home whether you want or  not?  Liberals should prove their point by themselves practicing what they preach. And remember charity begins at home.

 

Several here has mentioned hypocrisy.

 

 

 

 


Nobody answers because it’s a bad analogy. You don’t literally have to put them in your house. You can help homeless find homes. You can work to build or rehab homes for the homeless. You can provide meals at homeless shelters. You can provide job skills training to help people get self-supporting jobs. You can provide regular transportation for people who don’t have their own, so they can maintain a well-paying job. You can donate money or time, or ideally both.  

 

We have eliminated veteran homelessness in our community. We didn’t put them in our houses. We did much of what I listed above. With both government funds and private charitable contributions of funding and time. We are now working on eliminating homelessness and food insecurity for college students. 

 

What do you do to help homeless? 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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Several here has mentioned hypocrisy.  Indeed.  Shouldn't "Christians" do the same?  It would be more "Christian-like" than whining about Liberals, especially those who claimed they supported the most Liberal candidate in recent memory.  Hypocrisy indeed.


So when did you become an authority on Christians?  Especially since 'by their works you shall know them'.  And when did anyone else mention anything about religion, and I don't recall this being about religion, but about illegals breaking the laws to come here. And its not about candidates one has supported in the past, but about illegals.  It's a real question that YOU choose to internalize, presumably because it effects you.  Do you have an answer to the point or just attack the one raising the question.  I do note your entire post is "personalizing" the valid point.


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

 

Several here has mentioned hypocrisy.  Indeed.  Shouldn't "Christians" do the same?  It would be more "Christian-like" than whining about Liberals, especially those who claimed they supported the most Liberal candidate in recent memory.  Hypocrisy indeed.


So when did you become an authority on Christians?  Especially since 'by their works you shall know them'.  And when did anyone else mention anything about religion, and I don't recall this being about religion, but about illegals breaking the laws to come here. And its not about candidates one has supported in the past, but about illegals.

 

Is it that someone cannot add to the present discussion but has resort to shy attempts to attack others?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@oceanedge2 wrote:

 

Well, are we not the land of opportunity anymore?  Best ditch that National Anthem altogether if that's the case.


My general question I have been asking that no one will answer...are you willing to practice what you are saying....this country has many homeless so are you willing to let them move in your home whether you want or  not?  Liberals should prove their point by themselves practicing what they preach. And remember charity begins at home.

 

Several here has mentioned hypocrisy.  Indeed.  Shouldn't "Christians" do the same?  It would be more "Christian-like" than whining about Liberals, especially those who claimed they supported the most Liberal candidate in recent memory.  Hypocrisy indeed.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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Mexicans In The U.S. Are Sending Home More Money Than Ever
February 10, 2017 - NPR

 

These annual "remittances" — as they're called by analysts — topped $69 billion in 2016, according to central bank data compiled in a new report by the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington, D.C.-based think-tank.
About 40 percent of the money goes to just one country — Mexico — practically all of it sent by migrants in the United States.


The recent surge is all the more notable because migration from Mexico has slowed to a crawl — with the number of migrants in the U.S. increasing by just 1 percent between 2010 and 2016 to a total of 11.8 million. Also, the median amount that any given Mexican migrant sends hasn't changed — about $300 14 times a year.
In 2010 fewer than half of Mexican migrants sent money home. Today two-thirds do.


For migrants who are in the United States "illegally", stricter U.S. border enforcement under the Obama administration has raised the stakes of going home. Many now worry that if they leave the United States they'll never be able to get back in.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/02/10/514172676/mexicans-in-the-u-s-are-sending-home-...

 

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@oceanedge2 wrote:

 

Well, are we not the land of opportunity anymore?  Best ditch that National Anthem altogether if that's the case.


My general question I have been asking that no one will answer...are you willing to practice what you are saying....this country has many homeless so are you willing to let them move in your home whether you want or  not?  Liberals should prove their point by themselves practicing what they preach. And remember charity begins at home.

 

Several here has mentioned hypocrisy.

 

 

 

 

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@oceanedge2 wrote:

 

Wait a minute, I've always believed peasant farmers are people who work hard everyday "to better themselves".  Is the fact they are not rich from all their effort disqualify them from the benefit of your respect?

Truth be told, 'You Americans are rich, we are poor, therefore you need to share with us', was a lesson he had likely learned in Sunday School.


But in Sunday School it is taught that God helps those who helps themselves.  It is the same as with this peasant farmer and others who expect a handout.  That is what he was seeking as shown by his general attitude.  You didn't know the guy so you are making a partisan generalization.  And not all peasant farmers are hardworking seeking to better themselves. 

 

Your post is socialistic/communistic in content.

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