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Egypt:
16 American NGO Employees
December 2011 -
Egyptian authorities carry out 17 raids on the offices of 10 nongovernmental organizations. The Egyptian general prosecutor's office claims the raids were part of an investigation into allegations the groups had received illegal foreign financing and were operating without a proper license.
February 2, 2012 - In a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, 41 members of Congress urge the administration to withhold further aid to Egypt until the country's leadership lets the offices of those organizations reopen and returns seized property.
February 5, 2012 - Forty-three people, including 19 Americans, face prosecution in an Egyptian criminal court on charges of illegal foreign funding as part of an ongoing crackdown on NGOs. Among the American defendants is Sam LaHood, International Republican Institute country director and the son of US Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood.
February 15, 2012 - The US State Department confirms there are 16 Americans being held, not 19 as the Egyptian government announced.
February 20, 2012 - South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham and Arizona Senator John McCain meet with top Egyptian militar.... In an interview with CNN, Senator Graham says that he is optimistic for a positive resolution in the near future.
March 1, 2012 - Some of the 43 detainees including American, Norwegian, German, Serbian and Palestinian activists leave Cairo after each posts 2 million Egyptian pounds bail.
April 10, 2012 - Trial is adjourned.
April 20, 2012 - CNN is told Egyptian officials have filed global arrest notices with Interpol for some of the Americans involved in the NGO trial.
June 4, 2013 - An Egyptian court sentences the NGO workers: 27 workers in absentia to five-year sentences, 11 to one-year suspended jail sentences, and five others to two-year sentences that were not suspended, according to state-run newspaper Al Ahram. Only one American has remained in Egypt to fight the charges, but he also left after the court announced his conviction.
 
 

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Formerly Detained Americans
Cuba:
Alan Gross
December 2009 -
Alan Gross is jailed while working as a subcontractor on a US Agency for International Development project aimed at spreading democracy. His actions are deemed illegal by Cuban authorities. He is accused of trying to set up illegal internet connections on the island. Gross says he was trying to help connect the Jewish community to the internet and was not a threat to the government.
August 2010 - While on a trade mission in Cuba, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson presses Cuba to free Gross.
March 12, 2011 - Gross is found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in prison for crimes against the Cuban state.
March 30, 2011 - Former US President Jimmy Carter visits Cuba and tries to secure Gross' release on humanitarian grounds, arguing that Gross' mother and daughter are battling cancer. He is unsuccessful.
September 7-14, 2011 - Richardson visits Cuba on a private mission to win the release of Gross. He is unsuccessful.
February 18-20, 2013 - A US congressional delegation, led by Senator Patrick Leahy, visits Cuba and meets with Raul Castro in an effort to free Gross. They are unsuccessful.
April 11, 2014 - Ends a hunger strike that he launched the previous week in an effort to get the United States and Cuba to resolve his case.
December 17, 2014 - Gross is released as part of a deal with Cuba that paves the way for a major overhaul in US policy toward the island.
Democratic Republic of Congo:
Darryl Lewis
April 24, 2016 -
Darryl Lewis, a security adviser working in Katanga, is taken into custody and accused of mercenary activities. According to the US Embassy in Kinshasa, he was not armed and the allegations against him are false. He is released on June 8, 2016.
 

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@afisher wrote:

 

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the Trump administration would demand Paul Whelan’s release if the charges against him were unfounded.

When asked if the administration had contacted Whelan’s family, David said he doesn’t believe “anybody in my family has spoken to either the secretary or President Trump."

 


What makes this guy so important that the President of the United States or Secretary of State has to personally contact his family.   Can any recall any instance where this has been done for an average citizen or just anyone?  Is this brought up or is an issue being made because of Whelan or because of partisanism here?  My guess is the latter.

 

Shouldn't Whelan have known that the United States government has no jurisdiction in foreign countries, especially one like Russia?  Shouldn't those posting on this topic also realize that the Constitution only applies to the United States?

 

 


Whelan is a Veteran - I'm A Veteran - I'm Afraid to Travel out of the Country with Trump as President

 

Whelan is a American Citizen - I'm a American Citizen - I'm Afraid to Travel out of the Country with Trump as President

 

If Trump cannot even be bothered as US President to make a Public Statement to let the Family & Friends of Whalen & the American People Know - that the President of the USA will alwasy take a Personal Interest in any situation where a US Citizen is being held by a Enemy of the USA and without any specific charges or details - then

 

EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD BE AFRAID TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE USA - BECAUSE TRUMP WILL NOT HAVE YOUR BACK

 

Any informed person knows that this is most likely a Russian Action taken in responce to the US Arrest of Maria Butina

 

The American State Department Routinely Warns American Citizens about the Dangers of traveling to Rogue Nations

 

Russia attacked our Democracy our Free Elections - Russia is threatening us with Hypersonic Missles - Russian is threatening us in the Arctic

 

The US President should not be deferring to the Russian Justice System or to Putin but he does repeatedly

 

 

Trump Says Obama Administration Failed to Free Three American Hostages Held in North Korea

 

Source - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/politics/fact-check-north-korea-hostages-trump.html

 

Trump Blasts Obama Handling of Otto Warmbier

 

President Trump similarly asserted this week that “the results would have been different” had Warmbier been brought home sooner. He did not elaborate but added, “He should have been brought home that day.”

 

Source - https://deadline.com/2017/06/obama-otto-warmbier-death-statement-1202116812/

 

 

 

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@afisher wrote:

 

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the Trump administration would demand Paul Whelan’s release if the charges against him were unfounded.

When asked if the administration had contacted Whelan’s family, David said he doesn’t believe “anybody in my family has spoken to either the secretary or President Trump."

 


What makes this guy so important that the President of the United States or Secretary of State has to personally contact his family.   Can any recall any instance where this has been done for an average citizen or just anyone?  Is this brought up or is an issue being made because of Whelan or because of partisanism here?  My guess is the latter.

 

Shouldn't Whelan have known that the United States government has no jurisdiction in foreign countries, especially one like Russia?  Shouldn't those posting on this topic also realize that the Constitution only applies to the United States?

 

 

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@afisher wrote:

   Donald's erstwhile Ambassador said he offered services to Whelan.     and?????? crickets

   Meanwhile the wimp in WH sent out his minion to downplay this event:  

 

   

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the Trump administration would demand Paul Whelan’s release if the charges against him were unfounded.

When asked if the administration had contacted Whelan’s family, David said he doesn’t believe “anybody in my family has spoken to either the secretary or President Trump."

 

     Our Wimp in charge makes noise:  we will pull troops out of Syria immediately....and then his lackeys spend the next week of so explaining to him that he would be allowing genocide.    Since his pronoucement, the foreign policy folks ( Bolton) are walking Donald back from the edge.   

 

      Next, Donald will be given a coloring book to explain the Russian action in AF, decades ago.   Hint:  it wasn't about AF invading Russia, it was Russia attempting to support the Communist regime in Kabul.  


Charges Against Him Unfounded - If He Was Spying as he is charged - charged for Espionage - it would have been at Trumps Bidding?

 

Russia is not charging Whelan for Corporate Espionage - they are accusing him of being a US Government Spy

 

Why isn;t Trump demending to know the Specific Charges - the Details - Trumps treating this just like he did Kashoggi

 

Trump Once Again - Not My Problem - I only like people Americans who don't get captured or tortuted & mutilated - those are Trumps Own Words

 

 TRUMPS A SELFISH WIMP - WHAT AMERICAN CAN FEEL SAFE TRAVELING OUT OF THE COUNTRY - WITH TRUMP AS YOUR PRESIDENT - IF ITS NOT IN HIS PERSONAL INTEREST - HE DOES NOT CARE - HE WILL LEAVE YOU ABANDONED AND DO NOTHING - HE WILL NOT PUT HIS PERSONAL REALTIONSHIP WITH THE WORLDS DICTATORS & TRYANTS IN JEOPARDY

 

 

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   Donald's erstwhile Ambassador said he offered services to Whelan.     and?????? crickets

   Meanwhile the wimp in WH sent out his minion to downplay this event:  

 

   

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the Trump administration would demand Paul Whelan’s release if the charges against him were unfounded.

When asked if the administration had contacted Whelan’s family, David said he doesn’t believe “anybody in my family has spoken to either the secretary or President Trump."

 

     Our Wimp in charge makes noise:  we will pull troops out of Syria immediately....and then his lackeys spend the next week of so explaining to him that he would be allowing genocide.    Since his pronoucement, the foreign policy folks ( Bolton) are walking Donald back from the edge.   

 

      Next, Donald will be given a coloring book to explain the Russian action in AF, decades ago.   Hint:  it wasn't about AF invading Russia, it was Russia attempting to support the Communist regime in Kabul.  

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@TxGrandpa2- you are excused from this exercise because for some reason - you cannot in your wildest dreams even as you claim UR a US Military Veteran - you do not find it strange extraordinary or unusual that your President has not made a Single Statement about a American Citizen - a US Marine - a Iraq War Veteran - Paul Whelan Being Captured & Held Prisoner by Putin in Russia - Putin who Trump says repeatedly - "I Think He Likes Me"


 

 


I'm excused from this discussion?  Ya think so?  You afraid of my opinion?  Tell me about living/traveling in foreign countries.  You think that Americans, even veterans, are untouchable in foreign countries?  Do you know all the facts in this case or just what you read in the media?  Perhaps you should take advice from Will Rogers in that regards...

 

A veteran?  What gives any veteran special standing when in a foreign country to be given special recognition by the President of the United States?  We have an Ambassador in Russia to handle instances like this through the State Department.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Once Again - a superb illustration of the dangers of inhaling the Burnt Incense from all these Failed MAGA Experiments..........................

 

The Trump Cult is now even asking us to believe that Abandoning US Veterans held in the Prisons of a Country who is our Biggest Nuclear Adversary on the Planet is the New US Foreign Policy - The New Status Quo 

 

They are telling us it's -  Not Unusual for a US President who Fires OFF - over 20 Tweets in one day from the Whitehouse - covering everything from

 

Excited to see our friends in Egypt opening the biggest Cathedral in the Middle East. President El-Sisi is moving his country to a more inclusive future!

 

“Former @NYTimes editor Jill Abramson rips paper's ‘unmistakably anti-Trump’ bias.” Ms. Abramson is 100% correct. Horrible and totally dishonest reporting on almost everything they write. Hence the term Fake News, Enemy of the People, and Opposition Party!

 

Great Tweet today by Tyler Q. Houlton @SpoxDHS on the #FakeNews being put out by @CNN, a proud member of the Opposition Party. @TSA is doing a great job!

 

I don’t care that most of the workers not getting paid are Democrats

 

Thank you to Kanye West for your nice words. Criminal Justice Reform is now law - passed in a very bipartisan way!

 

Great new book by Dr. Robert Jeffress, “Choosing the Extraordinary Life.” Get it and enjoy! @LouDobbs

 

Source - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?lang=en

 

THAT NOT DEMANDING THE RETURN OF OUR AMERICAN MARINE VETERAN IS NORMAL

 

Source - Russia has just revealed a freakishly powerful arsenal of hypersonic missiles. The US has been forced to admit it can’t do anything about them. 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/putin-boasts-he-has-new-game-changer-weapons-...

 

 

While Trump is Shutting Down the Government over a Trump Memorial Wall - Russia has  developed Weapons the US has No Defense Against - Once Again - Trump is Mute 

 

Now his Sycophants in the Trump Cult are advocating that All Americans Should Ignore A US Iraq War Veterans Capture & Imprisonment as No Big Deal - Business as USUAL- IN THE NEW MAGA AMERICA

 

25TH AMMENDMENT INSANITY

 

Here is just one Example of the Irony of Trump and the Trump Cult on this issue

 

As President Trump has often said: A government is responsible first of all to that government’s citizens, not to the citizens of another nation, nor to the welfare a foreign government.

 

Barack Obama ignored his responsibility to regard the welfare of American citizens in exchange for his globalist fantasy of being the hero of the world and being loved and adored by the tyrants and dictators of the world.

 

source - https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2018/12/president-trump-treats-foreign-governments-like-obama-...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

@TxGrandpa2- you are excused from this exercise because for some reason - you cannot in your wildest dreams even as you claim UR a US Military Veteran - you do not find it strange extraordinary or unusual that your President has not made a Single Statement about a American Citizen - a US Marine - a Iraq War Veteran - Paul Whelan Being Captured & Held Prisoner by Putin in Russia - Putin who Trump says repeatedly - "I Think He Likes Me"


 

 


I'm excused from this discussion?  Ya think so?  You afraid of my opinion?  Tell me about living/traveling in foreign countries.  You think that Americans, even veterans, are untouchable in foreign countries?  Do you know all the facts in this case or just what you read in the media?  Perhaps you should take advice from Will Rogers in that regards...

 

A veteran?  What gives any veteran special standing when in a foreign country to be given special recognition by the President of the United States?  We have an Ambassador in Russia to handle instances like this through the State Department.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Let's cut to the chase.
Putin has control of Trump's finances and will destroy him if lil donny makes a peep against Putin's true interests.
lil donny has backed Putin and Russia against all our allies and our own intelligence services in every event since he slithered into the White House.
We know this WITHOUT Muellers final report. WITH Muellers final report, not even yertle McConnell will be able to justify a vote to save the ToadPOTUS.

 


 


Meanwhile.......................as every one of Trumps MAGA experiments Continue to Fail

 

Republicans Lose the US House

 

North Korea - Border Walls - Muslim Bans - Trade Wars -

 

Americas Subservience to Russia - Turkey & Saudi Arabia

 

The Worlds Economy is being destroyed -

 

US Consumers are being Taxed 10 times more for the Cost of Goods than B4 Trumps Trade War

 

Just in the last 3 months my wifes 401k has lost $17,000

 

The US Agrucultural Empire is collecting Welfare

 

US Marines are being captured in Moscow - Trump is Mute

 

NBA Players are afraid to leave the USA to Play a Annual Game in London - Trump is Mute

 

A Permanent US Resident - Working 4 one of the Largest US Newpapers in the World is Kidnapped - Tortured - Murdered - Dismembered - Trump is Mute

 

Yup this New America First Nationalist Pipe Dream - Sure Has Been Good For Trump but Real & Very Very Bad For Middle Class Americans

 

 

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Let's cut to the chase.
Putin has control of Trump's finances and will destroy him if lil donny makes a peep against Putin's true interests.
lil donny has backed Putin and Russia against all our allies and our own intelligence services in every event since he slithered into the White House.
We know this WITHOUT Muellers final report. WITH Muellers final report, not even yertle McConnell will be able to justify a vote to save the ToadPOTUS.

 


 

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