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What Effect Does Posting Here Have On The Divide In Our Country?

I have never viewed posting in this group as anything except some messages out and back between a few people.  I see it as Social Media.  Do you think posting here has very much positive impact on the tension in our country?  If so, how?  Does anyone here hold a public office?

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I am not on here to change anyone's mind, or the way they think or vote or who they like. 

I am also not on here for anyone to change my mind, or the way I think or vote or who I like.

 

I give an opinion and you give yours, that's is about all I am on here for plus to learn from others who do a fact check of their own info before they post it. 

 

Lots of posts are educational, many are differences of opinion about The Donald, who does and doesn't like him. I personally can not stand him for many reasons. 

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It doesn't help the divide at all. In fact, it highlights the incredible difference between real America and Trump/Fox world. In real America, people do research, look for the truth, and challenge anything they hear which doesn't add up. 

 

In Trump/Fox world, they are the victims of the biggest Fake News factory on the planet, the Fox Propaganda Network. Unfortunately, millions of Americans incredibly believe Fox is a news network when that is so far from the truth. Fox viewers automatically believe everything they see and hear on Fox. 

 

Doing independent research and/or challenging what they see and hear on Fox is not part of their culture. For example, since the George Floyd protests began, real new networks like CNN, mention the looting, but they show the countless thousands of Americans who protest peacefully. On Fox, they show looting and rioting 24/7, so members of Trump World believe America is under attack. They will never question nor challenge Fox.

 

In Trump/Fox World, they are living in fear. They are terrified of:

  • liberals
  • the changing demographics in America
  • immigrants
  • Muslims
  • the free press

Fox understands this very well and plays upon the fears of Trump World with non-stop propaganda, Joseph Goebbels style.

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bravo CeeTee! Very well said. The divide existed before Trump BUT Trump has helped the divide by putting it on steroids! The man doesn't know a thing about bringing people together except for his supporters and that's it. Really sad.
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   Oh soos, this is a fun place to see the amalgam of RW talking points, which saves me time and I don't have to read or give clicks to the far-right websites.   

   That and I can see the gaslighting being promoted by the current WH regime.   

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@afisher wrote:

   Oh soos, this is a fun place to see the amalgam of RW talking points, which saves me time and I don't have to read or give clicks to the far-right websites.   

   That and I can see the gaslighting being promoted by the current WH regime.   


Afisher, this is so true !

 


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Do you think posting here has very much positive impact on the tension in our country?

 

Dialogue  does,  protest is dialogue when one part of the conversation  refuses to listen.

 

Talking is more positive then conflict.

 

It's called diplomacy.

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Why would anyone post here that thinks it not worthwhile?

 

Many view these topics that never post to them. Who knows who the postings here may or may not influence?  


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Agree. People need all of the information. And an opportunity to debate it so they can vote.

 

They did lousy job teaching us civics and the Constitution in grade school, primarily because they didn't want us to know our rights unless we hired a lawyer to protect the legal system.

 

Posting here gives us practice and ammunition for the voting booth.

And AARP(not itself, affilates and relatives and members) spent 80 million dollars in lobby money last year to congress, so don't think those people are not reading our posts

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Posting here has made me much more effective when I post on other media.  I have learned to check the references and even the exact words quoted by people who post here.  I do not accept any quote or link without verification.  In turn, I have learned to research my own facts and provide links to documentation.  I like to think that disproving lies and misinformation while providing factual content helps bring us together in supporting the truth. 

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@Richva..............That is a good reason for you. What I was thinking about with the post, was this. If information is posted here, does it have a positive impact on the way people vote, or how they treat their fellow American? In other words, do you think a poster or reader comes here and then makes a change in the way they think or act?

A lot is being posted about racism and that is something that divides us. Politics and religious beliefs divides us also. I believe it is wrong to show racism, but I also believe it is wrong to "throw stones" at someone who practices their religious beliefs or votes for someone other than who we have or will vote for. That is treating another group of people unjustly. Personally, I am glad for the differences in us.
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People definitely come to this forum for information in this community, to express views and learn the politics of this nation they can't get from local nor national media.

 

Its the beauty of it.

 

How it affects how they vote is up to them, but to be exposed to great thought makes an educated voter.

 

Like I said, AARP is headquartered in DC, walking distance to the White House and the Capitol.

Its really important to express your views.

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I am also glad of the differences.  However, if those differences are based on misinformation or lies, then they are false differences. 

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This little room is watched and read by many in DC, its headquarters are down the street from the White House.

If it provides a balance of opinion on topics and information about our segment of the voters, then it may influence legislation and public policy.

 

People over 55 are a very important voting and financial slice of the pie in DC, the country.

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Its balance and an outlet.  I have learned much from the posts from very smart people Democrat, Independent and Republican.

Retired People are a huge percentage of the population, and AARP is a huge lobbyist to Congress.

People need to talk, not fester hate, and a forum like this is an outlet and an education to connect to people with information and views far more advanced than mine.

 

We bridge the divide in this country by discussion and understanding that everyone has a voice.

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@PhilipT605548 wrote:

I have learned much from the posts from very smart people Democrat, Independent and Republican.

 

People need to talk, not fester hate, and a forum like this is an outlet and an education to connect to people with information and views far more advanced than mine.

 

We bridge the divide in this country by discussion and understanding that everyone has a voice.


At one time, we bridged the divide by discussion and understanding that everyone has a voice but with the advent of social media used in the way Donald Trump has used it, that is a thing of the past.

 

His use to bully, name call, and incite people to violence on a regular basis is the first time a President has used social media for that purpose.

 

His continued posting of "alternate facts" as one of his cronies called them, is again misuse of the platform.

 

Once, long ago, Democrats and Republicans alike, would cross the aisle for legislation to be passed but since Trump's advent of labeling and mislabeling people came into use with his running for President and sadly, winning, the country has "gone down the rabbit hole".

 

Crossing the aisle is almost non-existent, in Congress and on a personal level.

 

Once Trump is removed from office, it will take years to repair this country and get back to where we were before his politics of division broke us apart.

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PhilipT605548 wrote......Its balance and an outlet. I have learned much from the posts from very smart people Democrat, Independent and Republican.

Retired People are a huge percentage of the population, and AARP is a huge lobbyist to Congress.

People need to talk, not fester hate, and a forum like this is an outlet and an education to connect to people with information and views far more advanced than mine.

We bridge the divide in this country by discussion and understanding that everyone has a voice. My comments...........I like your last statement....."We bridge the divide in this country by discussion and understanding that everyone has a voice."

I think the major improvement that could be made in this group is a better tolerance of ideas that differ from some, less name calling, and a goal to add members to the group. I have been in other groups on the AARP site and this was a goal. I know Political discussions are different, but I still think as Senior adults we should know what tolerance is and how to practice it.
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I quite agree about the "less name calling" I do not mind being called a liberal but I am pretty sure it is meant as an insult.  The ones who really bother me are the ones who refer to me as a "Socialist" as I am not a Socialist and I don't think they even know what the term means. 

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Richva wrote.............I quite agree about the "less name calling" I do not mind being called a liberal but I am pretty sure it is meant as an insult. The ones who really bother me are the ones who refer to me as a "Socialist" as I am not a Socialist and I don't think they even know what the term means. My comment........The interesting thing to me is I doubt any of us know enough about the posters here to really know them on a personal level. You mention the label that bothers you, mine is not a label, but some time ago, I mentioned that I have some good Black friends. Someone told me to ask them if they had ever been in a swimming pool. If was as if this would determine whether or not I could actually have Black friends or if I was lying or something. I replied that they would think me nuts, especially since one of them was telling me to join the Y and participate in the water exercise she was doing. I mention that because I don't think someone should always come back to try to dis-allow a comment you make. I actually work for a Black business owner. I have great respect for him and the successful business he has.

I grew up in a family where people were labeled by the color of their skin. As an adult I was holding a baby of a Black co-worker. I looked down at my pale skin against the brown skin of the baby. I looked in the sweet baby's face and that was when I realized the difference in the color of our skin was not bothering the baby. I knew it should not bother me either. Racism is a learned behavior. Like many things, it can be unlearned. Some have to practice this, but it can be done. Good examples of the right behavior should have a better influence than name calling.
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@PhilipT605548 

I certainly agree with your perspective about learning from others here, from knowlegable folks from all walks of life. 
And isn’t the purpose of this forum to discuss differing points of view? If everyone agrees with each other, wouldn’t we term it the feel good kumbiyah (sp) club! 
Develop a tough hide, strive for facts and truth, speak your mind, and learn!
Not always looking to change others minds, but will I learn anything that might change my mind. 

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