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Mick posted..

The Farmers in the West are getting 12 Billion in US Tax Payer Bailouts because they aren't capable business people...................................



Why should people who can't run a business effectively - get bailed out by US Tax Payers



Do You Care?

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I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot understand that the rich are paying a good share of the needs of the poor...can you? Do you care?

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Instead of being able to answer my question Mick went after our farmers.

The farmers I have known over the years are very good business people.
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@LydiaN586309 wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

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This may be a little cartoon, but it isn't funny!   This truly illustrates exactly what Trump and the GOP are doing to the American people; keeping us distracted with all manner of nonsense--all while robbing us blind by working their secret schemes to line their own pockets.


In the case of Medicare and Social Security its not "lining the GOPerLords pockets that is the main objective - it's removing all of the "social safety nets" so workers will become totally dependant on their employer for their healthcare AND their retirement.

 

Once they get that taken care of, their dream of a Corporate Oligarchy ruling Americans like the Hapsburgs ruled Europe will be achieved. If the sad little GOPers who believe Trump were the only ones becoming serfs it wouldn't be so bad, but of course they're going to pull your kids and grandkids down that rat hole with them.

 

Oh yeah, along the way, they'll privatize both SS and Medicare to line their pockets with what little wealth Reagan's taxscam hasn't already redistributed into their pockets.


You got your "them vs us" class warfare thoughts in and even the Reagan taxscam nonsense - but seriously, who has proposed taking anyone's SS and Medicare away?

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@LydiaN586309 wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

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This may be a little cartoon, but it isn't funny!   This truly illustrates exactly what Trump and the GOP are doing to the American people; keeping us distracted with all manner of nonsense--all while robbing us blind by working their secret schemes to line their own pockets.


In the case of Medicare and Social Security its not "lining the GOPerLords pockets that is the main objective - it's removing all of the "social safety nets" so workers will become totally dependant on their employer for their healthcare AND their retirement.

 

Once they get that taken care of, their dream of a Corporate Oligarchy ruling Americans like the Hapsburgs ruled Europe will be achieved. If the sad little GOPers who believe Trump were the only ones becoming serfs it wouldn't be so bad, but of course they're going to pull your kids and grandkids down that rat hole with them.

 

Oh yeah, along the way, they'll privatize both SS and Medicare to line their pockets with what little wealth Reagan's taxscam hasn't already redistributed into their pockets.

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Reverse Robin Hoods. They rob from the poor/the people and give to the rich/themselves! But what I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot "SEE" what is happening right before their eyes!!!!????

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FYI The poor get free medical care..free food stamps...pay no Federal income tax. The rich pay a good amount of what the poor get and need ..that is the way it is and should be.

I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot understand that the rich are paying a good share of the needs of the poor...can you? Do you care?


The Farmers in the West are getting 12 Billion in US Tax Payer Bailouts because they aren't capable business people...................................

 

Why should people who can't run a business effectively - get bailed out by US Tax Payers

 

Do You Care?

 

 

Yet elsewhere you blamed it on tariff changes.

 

Seems like your only consistency is making stuff up to complain about.


And in another Post you were criticizing you're opponents inability to recognize and appreciate Satire........................so which is it?

 

 What was the satire? 

 

Opponents - I have no opponents. Maybe that's why my garbage cans stay upright.

 

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
LydiaN586309 posted...


Reverse Robin Hoods. They rob from the poor/the people and give to the rich/themselves! But what I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot "SEE" what is happening right before their eyes!!!!????

============================================================

FYI The poor get free medical care..free food stamps...pay no Federal income tax. The rich pay a good amount of what the poor get and need ..that is the way it is and should be.

I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot understand that the rich are paying a good share of the needs of the poor...can you? Do you care?


The Farmers in the West are getting 12 Billion in US Tax Payer Bailouts because they aren't capable business people...................................

 

Why should people who can't run a business effectively - get bailed out by US Tax Payers

 

Do You Care?

 

 

Yet elsewhere you blamed it on tariff changes.

 

Seems like your only consistency is making stuff up to complain about.


And in another Post you were criticizing you're opponents inability to recognize and appreciate Satire........................so which is it?

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@mickstuder wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
LydiaN586309 posted...


Reverse Robin Hoods. They rob from the poor/the people and give to the rich/themselves! But what I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot "SEE" what is happening right before their eyes!!!!????

============================================================

FYI The poor get free medical care..free food stamps...pay no Federal income tax. The rich pay a good amount of what the poor get and need ..that is the way it is and should be.

I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot understand that the rich are paying a good share of the needs of the poor...can you? Do you care?


The Farmers in the West are getting 12 Billion in US Tax Payer Bailouts because they aren't capable business people...................................

 

Why should people who can't run a business effectively - get bailed out by US Tax Payers

 

Do You Care?

 

 

Yet elsewhere you blamed it on tariff changes.

 

Seems like your only consistency is making stuff up to complain about.

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Well the Grand Old Plutocrats have to cut Social Security and Medicare , to justify their Tax Cuts for the Wealthy. How else can you lower the deficit ?


The tax cuts went to tax payers - a totally different, unrelated topic.

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Social Security and Medicare trustees confirm: GOP policies have hurt both programs

 

The publication of the annual trustees’ reports for Social Security and Medicare has become the occasion for some of the most consistently uninformed reporting on government programs of the year.

 

The release of both reports Tuesday was no exception. Within moments of their appearance, the Associated Press was tweeting, and later reported, that Medicare was projected to become “insolvent” in 2026, three years earlier than was projected last year.

 

Actually, no: The Medicare report projected that its hospital insurance trust fund, which applies to Medicare Part A, will be depleted in 2026.

 

But since even then the program would be able to keep paying out more than 90% of scheduled benefits, it’s not anything like “insolvent.” As economist Dean Baker observes, at most it would be correct to say Medicare will face a “shortfall” in 2026, not insolvency.

 

The 2018 Trustees Report shows that the current program is fully affordable. Indeed, the United States can fully afford an expanded Social Security.

 

The more glaring oversight in Tuesday’s reporting on both programs is that the trustees made crystal clear that policies of congressional Republicans and the Trump White House have damaged the financial prospects of both programs. There’s a bitter irony in that, since the GOP continually claims that it’s imperative to make both programs healthier to serve the 62 million people dependent on Social Security and 58.4 million covered by Medicare; the truth is that the Republicans are doing their best to cut the legs out from under both.

 

If Congress wants to avert the cutback, nothing’s stopping it from raising the payroll tax, say by eliminating the wage cap on taxes, currently set at $128,400.

 

The trustees, meanwhile, give details on how congressional and White House initiatives have harmed Social Security.

 

First, they mention that Trump’s rescission of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, the program that allowed children brought to the United States illegally by their parents to stay and become productive members of society, will reduce the number of workers paying into the program. That will reduce payroll receipts slightly but significantly in the near term; because those people won’t be receiving benefits decades from now, the system costs will be lower, but the impact of Trump’s decision still will be negative.

 

The tax cuts enacted by Republicans and signed into law by Trump in December also will have a negative effect on Social Security in the near term, chiefly by reducing the program’s income from the taxation of benefits. “As a whole, the law has a significant net negative effect on the financial status of the OASDI program [that is, the retirement and disability components together] over the short-range projection period and a negligible net positive effect over the long-range projection period,” the trustees said.

 

GOP policies are projected to have a more significant effect on Medicare, according to its trustees report. A key factor is the elimination of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate, which was effectively canceled as of 2019 when the tax cut bill reduced the penalty for not having insurance to zero.

 

Source - http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-social-security-20180605-story.html

 

 

 

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You can thank obama and the rest of the feckless democrats for screwing up SS, medicare & the overall economy. "medicare for all" will mean medicare for none! Look what they did to health care with their ramming through of obamacare in the middle of the night, how they screwed that all up. It is the democrat's obamacare that has made age cut offs for covered care & procedures, SENIOR DEATH PANELS! The leftist loons are importing more and more illegals for their votes too, even though once they arrive they are further burdening our welfare systems, like SS & medicare.1crd05.jpgimages (6).jpggun-control-will-lower-crime-rates-just-like-obamacare-lowered-31092514.png

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LydiaN586309 posted...


Reverse Robin Hoods. They rob from the poor/the people and give to the rich/themselves! But what I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot "SEE" what is happening right before their eyes!!!!????

============================================================

FYI The poor get free medical care..free food stamps...pay no Federal income tax. The rich pay a good amount of what the poor get and need ..that is the way it is and should be.

I don't understand is why so many Americans cannot understand that the rich are paying a good share of the needs of the poor...can you? Do you care?


The Farmers in the West are getting 12 Billion in US Tax Payer Bailouts because they aren't capable business people...................................

 

Why should people who can't run a business effectively - get bailed out by US Tax Payers

 

Do You Care?

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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