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Nice try Libs.....you can dish it out.....but you CAN'T TAKE IT!!!    No wonder you LOST the election last year.  You run on "feelings" but never FACTS!!   How is showing the OPPOSITE side of the coin not being on target???  Oh ya.....you're LIBS....my mistake!!!!    ;-)

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Centrist......You commented to this post--->  "If you can not do the time do not do the crime.  That's exactly how many intelligent people think about trump, his family and all his men.  Thank you, Kid for the reminder.  Maybe you should send him a postcard to remind him.

 

And YOU talk about "changing the subject?"   Hahahahahaha.....How about you practice what you preach??  Where is Trump in the last "cops" post??

 

But since you responded to the "crime" topic.....have you forgotten about the infamous Clinton Cartel that you Libs loved and LOST??  

 

"The Clinton Foundation is a massive money-laundering scheme. Money goes in, State Department weapons deals come out.

Sorry, but it’s not a vast right-wing conspiracy: The Clintons have been up to their eyeballs in shady deals and corruption scandals since their humble country bumpkin beginnings in Arkansas, which strangely enough was the staging ground for a massive CIA cocaine drug smuggling operation while Bill was governor. Coincidence or fate?

Enough already. When you’re taking millions of dollars from the Saudis, and private rides on the “Lolita Express”, you have no business being anywhere near the White House.

Just imagine the nightmare before us: Four years of Hillary Clinton lecturing the rest of the world about human rights and the rule of law; four years of Libya-style “humanitarian interventions”; four years of Boss Tweed in a pantsuit.

Crime doesn’t pay? Tell that to the Clintons. Lie, cheat and steal and maybe one day you can be president, too!!

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/hillary-clinton-is-living_b_10862558.html

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewa...

 

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/joyoverbeck/2016/07/10/clinton-crimes-vs-trump-crimes-n2190401

 

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Nope, Centristsin2010 - there wasn't much coherent content - and far less content that was anywhere close to being on topic...

 

However it was quite vociferously, misogynistically, and enthusiastically off topic.

 

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Centrist.....do you WALLOW in your own denial??  How about responding to the post and not beating around the bush??  I replied to YOUR comment.....and you cower?  You stated that there is no war on Cops and I gave example after example that there are AMBUSHES going on with cops ALL OVER THE USA!!!   I believe that's called "being EXACTLY on topic!" 

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Centrist......You commented to this post--->  "If you can not do the time do not do the crime.  That's exactly how many intelligent people think about trump, his family and all his men.  Thank you, Kid for the reminder.  Maybe you should send him a postcard to remind him.

 

And YOU talk about "changing the subject?"   Hahahahahaha.....How about you practice what you preach??  Where is Trump in the last "cops" post??

 

But since you responded to the "crime" topic.....have you forgotten about the infamous Clinton Cartel that you Libs loved and LOST??  

 

"The Clinton Foundation is a massive money-laundering scheme. Money goes in, State Department weapons deals come out.

Sorry, but it’s not a vast right-wing conspiracy: The Clintons have been up to their eyeballs in shady deals and corruption scandals since their humble country bumpkin beginnings in Arkansas, which strangely enough was the staging ground for a massive CIA cocaine drug smuggling operation while Bill was governor. Coincidence or fate?

Enough already. When you’re taking millions of dollars from the Saudis, and private rides on the “Lolita Express”, you have no business being anywhere near the White House.

Just imagine the nightmare before us: Four years of Hillary Clinton lecturing the rest of the world about human rights and the rule of law; four years of Libya-style “humanitarian interventions”; four years of Boss Tweed in a pantsuit.

Crime doesn’t pay? Tell that to the Clintons. Lie, cheat and steal and maybe one day you can be president, too!!

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/hillary-clinton-is-living_b_10862558.html

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewa...

 

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/joyoverbeck/2016/07/10/clinton-crimes-vs-trump-crimes-n2190401

 

Obama-Hillary-Clinton-Crime-004-Foreign-Corruption-State-Department-Clinton-Foundation-Money-Trail.jpgthe-clinton-crime-family-least-181-companies-individuals-and-politics-1430324646.jpg

 

 

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Sure thing Centrist, Hahahaha......you've got all the facts and all the below are LIES,  RIGHT??

 

Did you have any comment on the actual topic?

 


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No, Police Defenders, There Is No ‘War on Cops’

 

There’s no excuse for the brazen, chilling murder of Harris County Sheriff Darren Goforth, who was shot repeatedly while fueling his police cruiser at a Texas gas station and whose funeral is Friday.

 

But there’s also no excuse for attempts by law enforcement, media, and politicians to claim that the unmotivated killing is part of a “war on cops” or in any way related to the Black Lives Matter movement or other people critical of law enforcement and police brutality.

 

To do so is simply to wave away a decade-long decline in confidence in police that has everything to do with behavior by law enforcement, not the citizens they serve. According to Gallup, the percentage of Americans with “a great deal/quite a lot of confidence” in police has dropped from 64 percent in 2004 to just 52 percent, its lowest number in 22 years.

 

The suspect in Goforth’s murder, Shannon Miles, has a long history of violence and mental problems, including being declared “mentally incompetent” to stand trial in 2012 on felony assault charges. Connecting Miles’ horrific crimes to anything other than his own twisted mind makes as much sense as linking Jared Loughner, who shot former Arizona congresswoman Gabby Giffords, to the Tea Party or Sarah Palin PAC advertisements. Which is to say: None at all (Loughner was not just nuts, to the extent he followed the news, he watched MSNBC and UFO conspiracy docs.)

 

Yet at a press conference announcing Miles’s arrest, Sheriff Ron Hickman argued that “very dangerous national rhetoric” that’s critical of law enforcement is at least partly to blame. “When rhetoric ramps up to the point where cold-blooded assassination has happened, this rhetoric has gotten out of control,” Hickman said. “We heard ‘black lives matter.’ All lives matter. Well, cops’ lives matter too, so why don’t we drop the qualifier and say ‘lives matter’ and take that to the bank.”

 

Hickman’s sentiments echo throughout police departments around the country. “If I don’t know you,” one Arizona cop told the Los Angeles Times, “I’m going to be extra guarded around you… It is a different world.” Such thoughts are resounding especially loudly in media outlets such as Fox News, where hosts ranging from staid morning-show business reporter Stuart Varney to primetime blowhard Sean Hannity have been quick to adopt the “war on cops” motif. Ted Cruz, never one not to hitch a ride on a media bandwagon, has also gotten into the act. “Cops across this country are feeling the assault,” says the Texas Republican and presidential hopeful. “They’re feeling the assault from the president, from the top on down as we see.”

 

Such reactions are not just grotesquely opportunistic, they’re wrong in two fundamental ways.

 

First—and most importantly—there is no “war on cops,” if the term suggests increasingly brazen and numerous open “executions” of police officers. The National Law Enforcement Officers Fund, which tracks police deaths, finds that the number of police killed in assaults so far this year is 25, the same as last year. The FBI says that while the number of cops “feloniously killed” each year has fluctuated over the past decade, “it stands at about 50.” As my Reason colleague Ed Krayewski writes, “In 2007, there were 67 cops shot and killed in the line of duty. In 2007 there was no ‘national conversation’ about police reform, no sustained focus on criminal justice reform, nothing in the national zeitgeist that would suggest the number of murders were the result of anything more than the number of people who had killed cops that year.”

 

Second, to the extent that there is serious discussion about reforming criminal justice practices, it is driven by highly publicized cases of overreaction or brutality by law enforcement that is increasingly visible due to smart phone cameras and social media. The 2011 case of Kelly Thomas, a 37-year-old schizophrenic drifter beaten to death by Fullerton, California, police, perfectly illustrates the real “new world” faced by police. It was only after Thomas’s father took gruesome pictures of his comatose son’s severely battered body and face and shared them via social media that public pressure grew for a full investigation and trial.

 

In the past year alone, high-profile events in Ferguson, Staten Island, Troy, Ohio and elsewhere have sparked a nationwide movement to rethink not just policing strategies but also the ways in which race factors into law enforcement and how local governments abuse their power to levy fines and fees on their poorest residents. The rising use of body cameras all over the country isn’t being done to document a “war on cops” but to promote essential peace and trust between citizens and police.

 

It’s a sad coincidence that Darren Goforth’s funeral will take place just as the trial begins for the officers accused in the death of Freddie Gray, the Baltimore man who died this year from injuries suffered during police custody.

 

By all accounts, Goforth was an honorable man and a credit to law enforcement and his murder is as tragic and disturbing as it is senseless. But if his brothers and sisters in blue and their partisans in politics and the press simply use his killing as an excuse to avoid ongoing reform, there’s no reason to believe public confidence in the police will rebound any time soon.

 

No, Police Defenders, There Is No ‘War on Cops’


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From the NPR article about the deaths of police officers:

"Twelve deaths, horrible as they are, have to be put into the statistical context of a country with close to a million law enforcement officers. Stoughton says statistical context is important".

 

If that is so, what statistical value have the occasional questionable shooting or chocking (sic) cent harps on?  "Statistical value?" Didn't you claim "all lives matter"?  I didn't believe you actually meant that either...Just quoting NPR. You'll have to take it up with ishonest poststhem.  Another lie....  NPR NEVER said anything about the "the occasional questionable shooting or chocking (sic) " posted here.  The lies have become all to common; just like your fascist leader.


Sorry, due to your special status, I cannot engage in your "lie" game.  You couldn't (period).  You can't get away from your dishonest posts.


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cent - what offensive charges by scout are substantiated by one questionable shooting?  What's offensive is suggesting there's been only one questionable shooting. When did scout say that? 


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Typical, there was absolutely ZERO logic offered, yet you claim there was.....just another rabbit hole....and NOTHING about the topic.  Holes everywhere.....


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@rk9152wrote:

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@rk9152wrote:

From the NPR article about the deaths of police officers:

"Twelve deaths, horrible as they are, have to be put into the statistical context of a country with close to a million law enforcement officers. Stoughton says statistical context is important".

 

If that is so, what statistical value have the occasional questionable shooting or chocking (sic) cent harps on?  "Statistical value?" Didn't you claim "all lives matter"?  I didn't believe you actually meant that either...Just quoting NPR. You'll have to take it up with them.  Another lie....  NPR NEVER said anything about the "the occasional questionable shooting or chocking (sic) " posted here.  The lies have become all to common; just like your fascist leader.


 


Sorry, due to your special status, I cannot engage in your "lie" game.


Gee - you're off topic - again - still - yet...

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