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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

What Happened To the - Big Invasion - All Of A Sudden Trump isn't talking about this Grave National Security Issue - 24/7

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops Moving to Our Southern Border

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops at our Southern Border

 

Did all the Caravans just disappear?

 

OR

 

Was This All Just Another Trump Lie to try and get a few more Fools to vote Republican?

 


Of course it was a lie - - a lie to stir up his base, the ignorant, the gullible, and the fearful.


NOTHING gets in the way of our election process and timing.  Everything stops until it is all over and all the talking heads have had their say - a while to go since they are still finding votes in Broward County, FL.  Hope they check them good as to the names on the ballots - they could have been left over from the last election

 

Plus news media has just so much time in the day to repeat, repeat, repeat - analysize, analysize and interview all their experts who usually is some "former" or "ex-" whatever.

 

 

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@GailL1 wrote:

 

I guess we could put the caravan members on a non-nationality plane and fly them into Canada - quietly in the night and let them go.  Woman Wink


Anything to get rid of those nasty brown people, eh?Robot wink


I  said that in context to the US-Canada Safe Third Country Agreement.

Personally, their color is of no consequence to me - could be a huge number of white,, yellow, green, purple or grey people.

 

Asylum seekers need proof of their plight; not some sort of general country problems - read the definition of who can seek asylum in our immigration regulations - economics is not in the mix.  Crime ridden areas is not in the mix.  

For those reasons, since time is not of the essence, they could just apply for refugee status and save the long trek until they know they can be approved for asylum.

 

 

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I didn't say they have the right to "go wherever" they want. I said they have the right to "seek asylum wherever they want".  What you "believe" about them "refusing an offer" means nothing, "believe" what you want.No, you cannot site any law to support what you claim, they can seek asylum anywhere. As far as us "taking them", it will be decided when they seek asylum here.

 

Have you never heard of The Safe Third Country Agreement which the U.S. has with Canada?

 

Canada- U.S. Third Country Agreement

 

Examples:  If a person overstays their visa here in the US and crosses the border into Canada, maybe to seek asylum there - they are sent back by Canadian officials to the US. 

 

Those coming from the Northern Triangle as asylum seekers cannot cross into this country on their way to Canada - Canada will secure them when found and send them back to here, 

 

Other countries have toughened up their immigration laws so that they can control entry into their country. 

 

The EU nations have something similar. 

Norwegian Refugee Council - The Dubin Regulation - What is a Safe Third Country?

 

The UN has considered it as a rule for refugees /asylum seekers although I don't know if there has ever been an official vote.

 

Our government has discussed setting up a Third Country Agreement with Mexico but evidently it is futile.

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

What Happened To the - Big Invasion - All Of A Sudden Trump isn't talking about this Grave National Security Issue - 24/7

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops Moving to Our Southern Border

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops at our Southern Border

 

Did all the Caravans just disappear?

 

OR

 

Was This All Just Another Trump Lie to try and get a few more Fools to vote Republican?

 


Of course it was a lie - - a lie to stir up his base, the ignorant, the gullible, and the fearful.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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@ChasKy53 wrote:

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The theory is that the caravan heading north is composed of asylum seekers. If asylum is offered along the way and refused, can they still be called "asylum seekers" when the arrive at our border?


Yes, they can choose where to seek asylum.


So it isn't that they have the right to asylum because of the deplorable conditions in the s---hole nation the live in. Now they get to decide who has to take them in.

 

Interesting concept of national sovereignty.


I said nothing of "national sovereignty" and my statement had nothing to do with that. Of course, they can decide where they seek asylum at (not "who has to take them). Can you source some international law that says otherwise? Can you source any law that says otherwise?


You seem to think they have a right to go wherever they want. I believe that for the claim of "in need of asylum" because to circumstances in one's country, that claim loses validity when they refuse an offer of asylum.

 

No I cannot cite an international law saying where a person can seek asylum. Can you cite any international law saying we have to take them?


I didn't say they have the right to "go wherever" they want. I said they have the right to "seek asylum wherever they want".  What you "believe" about them "refusing an offer" means nothing, "believe" what you want.

 

No, you cannot site any law to support what you claim, they can seek asylum anywhere. As far as us "taking them", it will be decided when they seek asylum here.


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Two points;

1. The President did not create the caravans so your entire "distract" concept has no value;

2. When Obama reacted in a similar way - was he wagging a dog?

Trump

 

Trump Created the Reality TV Show on the Border - Where Media From All Over The World Will Be Lying in Wait - Hoping to be the one who gets - THE PHOTO - of anyone even looking like American Military injuring or killing a Honduran Immigrant

 

The President did not organize the "caravan".

 

WHATABOUTISM

 

Obama was never responsible for the Largest Domestic US Military Deployment in Peace Time in History

He did the same thing - only the numbers changed.

 

 

Pres Trump was NOT responsible for creating the problem at the border:  (1) It was Obama who first broke the law with his DACA signing and never protected our borders and allowed illegals to break our laws; and thousands walked in (and then Obama was the one who put children in cages.  (2) Were the Liberals who encouraged the illegals to walk through our borders and break our laws...hoping they'd get more illegals votes.

Also, it is the Fake News Media and Liberals who are lying in wait to see an illegal (who is breaking the law) killed so they can gloat over it and think it improves their lowest of ratings (CNN).

 

You are correct that Obama was never responsible for the largest domestic US Military deployment in peace time in history....because Do-Nothing-Obama never did anything to protect our country or our military....allowing our men to die in Benghazi...he just wanted to campaign endlessly and chat it up with Hollywood when he wasn't apologizing for America and bowing down to foreign leaders.


Once again the court tells us you are wrong and DACA is still here. Some TV stations from US now have reporters traveling with the caravan through Mexico. There was report on TV from our local reporter with them in Mexico City. Report mostly families trying for a better life. No middle east people. Lots of kids. In other words a group just like your ancestors and mine when they came to the US. Good thing the Native Americans did not act like the far right or you might be posting form another place.

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@GailL1 wrote:

 

I guess we could put the caravan members on a non-nationality plane and fly them into Canada - quietly in the night and let them go.  Woman Wink


Anything to get rid of those nasty brown people, eh?Robot wink


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What Happened To the - Big Invasion - All Of A Sudden Trump isn't talking about this Grave National Security Issue - 24/7

They are still coming.

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops Moving to Our Southern Border

Would you prefer the Obama numbers??

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops at our Southern Border

Would you prefer the Obama numbers?

 

Did all the Caravans just disappear?

Don't you watch the news - they are still coming.

 

OR

 

Was This All Just Another Trump Lie to try and get a few more Fools to vote Republican?

Don't you watch the news - they are still coming.

 

 

 

 


 

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Two points;

1. The President did not create the caravans so your entire "distract" concept has no value;

2. When Obama reacted in a similar way - was he wagging a dog?

Trump

 

Trump Created the Reality TV Show on the Border - Where Media From All Over The World Will Be Lying in Wait - Hoping to be the one who gets - THE PHOTO - of anyone even looking like American Military injuring or killing a Honduran Immigrant

 

The President did not organize the "caravan".

 

WHATABOUTISM

 

Obama was never responsible for the Largest Domestic US Military Deployment in Peace Time in History

He did the same thing - only the numbers changed.

 

 

Pres Trump was NOT responsible for creating the problem at the border:  (1) It was Obama who first broke the law with his DACA signing and never protected our borders and allowed illegals to break our laws; and thousands walked in (and then Obama was the one who put children in cages.  (2) Were the Liberals who encouraged the illegals to walk through our borders and break our laws...hoping they'd get more illegals votes.

Also, it is the Fake News Media and Liberals who are lying in wait to see an illegal (who is breaking the law) killed so they can gloat over it and think it improves their lowest of ratings (CNN).

 

You are correct that Obama was never responsible for the largest domestic US Military deployment in peace time in history....because Do-Nothing-Obama never did anything to protect our country or our military....allowing our men to die in Benghazi...he just wanted to campaign endlessly and chat it up with Hollywood when he wasn't apologizing for America and bowing down to foreign leaders.

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What Happened To the - Big Invasion - All Of A Sudden Trump isn't talking about this Grave National Security Issue - 24/7

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops Moving to Our Southern Border

 

No One Has Seen 15,000 Active Duty Troops at our Southern Border

 

Did all the Caravans just disappear?

 

OR

 

Was This All Just Another Trump Lie to try and get a few more Fools to vote Republican?

 

 

 

 

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