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So if you are against DACA, and it seems you are, but not against a legal path to citizenship for children brought here against their will and through no fault of their own, have you lobbied your representiatives to introduce and pass legislation that provides these kids with a way to gain legal status?

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"So if you are against DACA, and it seems you are"

I am..really?

Nothing wrong with people becoming citizens...in fact I love it.

" have you lobbied your representiatives (sic) to introduce and pass legislation that provides these kids with a way to gain legal status?"

No I have not have you?

I understand that Trump will decide on Tuesday the fate of DACA.







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"So if you are against DACA, and it seems you are"

I am..really?

Nothing wrong with people becoming citizens...in fact I love it.

" have you lobbied your representiatives (sic) to introduce and pass legislation that provides these kids with a way to gain legal status?"

No I have not have you?

I understand that Trump will decide on Tuesday the fate of DACA.






Oh, I would not have guessed that you liked DACA, since you previously stated it was an overreach of Obama's power.    But I'm glad you are on board with compassionate policy.    

 

Yes, I reach out to my representatives all the time, attend meetings with them, etc.   And have for decades.   Government is of the people, by the people, for the people, and all that.

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What does it accomplish? It gets rid of brown people. Isn't that Trump's goal?
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Didn't you post that racist stuff before? It looks familiar.

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It is typical of the hate that the left are posting. Like calling Ms Trump a hooker.

A few years ago we had discussions on this board about issues and not the name calling we have today. Gee I miss that.



Didn't Mellie Knaus earn her living - prior to marrying trump - as a professional model - which included posing nearly naked/naked for sexually suggestive photo layouts - and even posed with equally unclad women in photos that clearly were suggestive of lesbian activities?

 

A first for the wife of the head of state of this nation.

 

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What does it accomplish? It gets rid of brown people. Isn't that Trump's goal?
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Didn't you post that racist stuff before? It looks familiar.

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It is typical of the hate that the left are posting. Like calling Ms Trump a hooker.

A few years ago we had discussions on this board about issues and not the name calling we have today. Gee I miss that.


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@NerdyMom wrote:

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The White House said this week that it was still reviewing Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which was adopted when Barack Obama was in office. About 800,000 immigrants who came to the U.S. illegally as children have received renewable, two-year work permits under the program and are protected from deportation under its provisions.

So what would be accomplished by changing this?   

 


What does it accomplish?  It gets rid of brown people.   Isn't that Trump's goal?


Not only does it get rid of brown people, it feeds red meat to Der Trumpers slavering hoards. Much easier to dump on 800,000 alw abiding teens than try and catch 80,000 MS13 thugs, besides, if Der Trumper leaves the thugs in place, they'll provide him with headlines to justify additional dumping on law-abiding brown people of all ages.


Didn't you post that racist stuff before? It looks familiar. 

 

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Loophole? What is wrong with people becoming citizens? Especially those who have grown up here. The average age of arrival was 6 1/2 years old. They are as American as you and I are. They are law abiding. They have to be to qualify for this program.

So what's wrong with their becoming legal????

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Nothing wrong with people becoming citizens...in fact I love it.

I also believe in our laws. I also believe that it's Congress that sets are laws not our President.

Again..

"The Obama administration had seemed intent on keeping the data secret, refusing to answer requests from Congress. The Trump administration complied."

Typical of the Obama administration.

FYI Obama was not elected to become King of our great country!





There are two things going on here.   One is that Obama was exercising prosecutorial discretion, which was his right, as the head of the Executive Branch.  Every president has the power to tell the Executive Branch how to do its job. He did NOT make a law with DACA. It's a policy.   If it were a law, then Trump could not unilaterally repeal it.  Only Congress could.

 

Two, the Advance Parole is part of Immigration Law, and it was passed by Congress, a long time ago.   Some Dreamers can take advantage of it as a way to create a legitimate path to citizenship.  Just like other immigrants who are having their status considered.  This is nothing new.   So to me, it's not a "loophole."  It's people trying to obey the law, and isn't that what we are all supposed to do?

 

So if you are against DACA, and it seems you are, but not against a legal path to citizenship for children brought here against their will and through no fault of their own, have you lobbied your representiatives to introduce and pass legislation that provides these kids with a way to gain legal status?     

 

 Not prosecutorial discretion - EO. therefore, an EO undoing an EO is perfectly reasonable.

 

As to a solution, I've already posted that.

 

 


 

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     And in case some here have already forgotten the  8/30 Fox Poll.

 

     1.    Majority of those polled said that Donald is tearing the country apart.

     2     Majority of those polled said that White Nationalist were responsible for protests an escalating violence in Charlottesville. 

 

Do you see either of those items as being related to DACA?

 

Now, back to the topic. DACA came about illegally via EO. The President as the Chief Executive does not have the power to change our immigration policy, only enforce it. So, if Trump undoes an illegal EO all he is doing is getting us back to where we were before Obama's illegal actions.

 

As to the individuals involved - we won't know until Tuesday but the President has hinted that it will not be a simply "round-up" - he has suggested that he will give the Congress the time needed to do it's jobThat sound reasonable to me.

 

Now, as to the employment issue - this has been discussed before here. We have the H1-B program that does need a lot of cleaning up but it exists and should be used. And we once had the Bracero Program which may serve as a basis for new, needed legislation.

 

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Of course it's for appearance - such events are always for appearance. But - "and his hooker" - ah, Laddie, I must be getting old.

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Name calling like calling our first lady a hooker is uncalled for.

The hate from the left on this board is a reason why it has gone down hill.

It's one thing to disagree with Trump or posters because of issues that affect us all....but the name calling is uncalled for.




Right. no one on this board EVER disparaged Mrs Obama in any way. especially you.

 


Are you saying that you think it is appropriate to call the First Lady of out Nation a "hooker"?

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No proof that she was a hooker, maybe a high class call girl.
But there is proof that she posed for porn posters.
But this about HER. My concern is about the rotting jack o-lantern she married
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@mimi0000 wrote:

The White House said this week that it was still reviewing Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which was adopted when Barack Obama was in office. About 800,000 immigrants who came to the U.S. illegally as children have received renewable, two-year work permits under the program and are protected from deportation under its provisions.

So what would be accomplished by changing this?   

 


What does it accomplish?  It gets rid of brown people.   Isn't that Trump's goal?


Not only does it get rid of brown people, it feeds red meat to Der Trumpers slavering hoards. Much easier to dump on 800,000 alw abiding teens than try and catch 80,000 MS13 thugs, besides, if Der Trumper leaves the thugs in place, they'll provide him with headlines to justify additional dumping on law-abiding brown people of all ages.

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NerdyMom posted..

So if you are against DACA, and it seems you are, but not against a legal path to citizenship for children brought here against their will and through no fault of their own, have you lobbied your representiatives to introduce and pass legislation that provides these kids with a way to gain legal status?

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"So if you are against DACA, and it seems you are"

I am..really?

Nothing wrong with people becoming citizens...in fact I love it.

" have you lobbied your representiatives (sic) to introduce and pass legislation that provides these kids with a way to gain legal status?"

No I have not have you?

I understand that Trump will decide on Tuesday the fate of DACA.





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