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@williamb39198 wrote:

Was there anything in writing, or just verbal promises. And what else did trump give away without getting anything?

Why give up the war games? To show how weak trump is?

Is trump selling kim un a building or condo in NY?...and having the US pay for it. Seems to be trump’s style. 

 

frosty business


If this had been a President Hillary instead of a President Trump would the reaction have been different?

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Was there anything in writing, or just verbal promises. And what else did trump give away without getting anything?

Why give up the war games? To show how weak trump is?

Is trump selling kim un a building or condo in NY?...and having the US pay for it. Seems to be trump’s style. 

 

frosty business

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Secretary Clinton did not establish Presidential level relations with North Korea


 

Hillary wasn't the President, so she couldn't establish that level of relations because she was only the Secretary of State, not the President.  So did you also resent Reagan shaking hands and having high level of discussions with Gorbachev?  Remember what happened as a result of Reagan and Gorbachev engaging in high level talks?

 

We'll just have to wait to see what becomes of these talks won't we?

 


Well Russia, China, SK, NK, Japan will not have to wait. They are all calling the shots and lackey Dictator Trump follows along. We have just learned that it was the President of Russia who told Trump to cancel the military exercises. When he did we were told all his people were surprised by the press. I will admit I was as I thought it was China who told him. The President of SK told him to attend the talks, and then made him reverse himself after he cancelled them. Just a few examples of where Trump gets his orders. Sad thing is he is to stupid to realize that.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Secretary Clinton did not establish Presidential level relations with North Korea


 

Hillary wasn't the President, so she couldn't establish that level of relations because she was only the Secretary of State, not the President.  So did you also resent Reagan shaking hands and having high level of discussions with Gorbachev?  Remember what happened as a result of Reagan and Gorbachev engaging in high level talks?

 

We'll just have to wait to see what becomes of these talks won't we?

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

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None the less, the picture of Trump saluting is being used as propaganda in North Korea relating to how the summit ended. They are propagandizing the salute as Trump not being on equal footing with Kim Jong Un but of a lower stature.


Certainly and why not?  trump is of a "lower stature".


Can YOU furnish proof of what Tarheel is posting?  Why wasn't Madam Secretary successful in establishing a dialogue with KIm? 


OF COURSE! Just google "Kim uses Trump for propaganda in North Korea"  and you'll get 300,000 hits. Here;s what the NYT had to say about one of Kims new videos:

SEOUL, South Korea — Ever since Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, began his diplomatic outreach this spring, meeting the presidents of China and South Korea, North Korea has used it to glorify him as a pioneering peacemaker.

But for propaganda purposes, nothing beats a meeting with the president of the United States.

A documentary film released by North Korea makes the most of this week’s Singapore summit meeting between Mr. Kim and President Trump, which was the first-ever meeting between the leaders of two nations that have been sworn enemies for seven decades.

Though it portrayed Mr. Trump in a positive light, the film made clear that Mr. Kim was the main attraction at what it called “the meeting of the century.”

“Numerous heads of state have visited Singapore, but there have never been in its history so many people crowding its streets welcoming a visitor than this time,” Korean Central Television, the North Korean state broadcaster, said in the 42-minute film, which showed pedestrians waving and taking smartphone pictures of Mr. Kim’s motorcade.

 

Secretary Clinton did not establish Presidential level relations with North Korea because for 50 year no US President has stooped to the level of the murderous despots ruling that benighted land...until Lemontop slithered on to the scene. Wonder what real estate deal lil' Donny is cooking up with his new BFF Kim? Will he totally sell out South Korea to get a Trump Tower in Pyongyang?

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Oh sure, these are wonderful times now that trump has our government and country in an absolute mess!

But let’s look at something concerning past world leaders, and I think most heads of state would be considered heads of their military, or have control of.

Also Would:

Churchill saluted hitler?

Roosevelt salute hitler?

Roosevelt salute other axis leaders?

Truman saluted Stalin?

nixon salute mao?

Kennedy salute kruschev?

Reagen salute gorbachev?

Obama salute putin?

Any President salute kim un or past family leaders of nk?

Or would any of our leaders have saluted the heads of our enemies militaries?

Or welcoming killers into our White House?

I would offer that I never saw any of these happen, except trump, or can even imagine them happening. 

 

Frosty history

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Trying to equate Der Trumper's skidmarks on the seat of government with the US accepting Japan's surrender is very Republican as it compares our heroic military leaders with a gutless draft-dodging preppytwit.

 

Truman did NOT show up to sign the surrender terms for Germany OR Japan, appropriate behavior toward despotic Governments.

 

That's why Kim already won these talks - he got the World recognition NK has sought for half a century, AND GAVE NOTHING IN RETURN.

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If you think having a POTUS lavish praise and admiration on a murderous despot while destroying relations with western democracies makes America Great, you are a Republican.

 

If you think having a POTUS lavish praise and admiration on a murderous despot while destroying relations with western democracies is disgusting, you are sane and need to vote that way.

 

 

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@nctarheel wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

And no, I wasn't wrong about the protocol. 

 

In any event the topic should have already run its course.


This thread will have only "run its course" when you admit that you were wrong about Trump's salute to an enemy general as being "within military protocol".

 

Throughout this thread, you challenge others military "awareness" due to their lack of military service. You allude to the population of veterans on the discussion boards as being low, and their knowledge of protocol limited.

 

You make statement after statement regarding protocol that are incorrect. Saluting a friend or foe, respecting the enemy's rank and uniform, and all other manners of trying to explain why you thought Trump was right. But, you were wrong.

 

You spend several posts questioning the knowledge of protocol of myself and others and then, go on to tout yours, all the while, using language that could be deemed a personal attacks.

 

When all these things didn't work, you tried to obfuscate the discussion by introducing OBAMA into the mix.

 

When that didn't work, you created your OOOPS moment rationale.

 

When that didn't work, you now are challenging a REAR ADMIRAL just because he appears on a media outlet you don't like.

 

Finally, when all else failed, you are calling for the closing of the thread, like you are a Moderator or something.

 

This thread will run its course when you admit that YOUR PRESIDENT saluted an enemy general, outside of military protocol, and that now, that salute is being used as propaganda in North Korea to depict that North Korea is either on par with the power of the United States or even more powerful.


Because North Korea is showing the video of the meeting, including the salute, certainly does not necessarily qualify as propaganda. That's only in the minds of the naysayers who revel in believing the worst of a president who is making America great again. If Obama would've done the same, the lefties would be demanding another Nobel peace prize.

 As far as the rear admiral, who you believe to be all knowing, he's a biased CNN operative.  Did he ever say Trump broke the law or he possibly, had a misstep in protocol? Most unbiased experts would not even acknowledge it was a misstep.If we want to criticize the president for going outside of protocol, we can go back a couple years and find all kinds of examples.

 I realize these are not the best of times for those on the left, given all the wonderful economic news coming forth every day, but just look and listen for all the wonderful things happening. It will help you get over the terrible loss you all suffered back in November 2016.

 

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@nctarheel wrote:

 

Do you really believe that "SPANKY" knows more about MILITARY PROCEDURE than a 30 year of service, retired REAR ADMIRAL?????


 

 

 


Referring to the President of the United States in a more adult mature way, yes the President of the United States as the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces outranks a Rear Admiral.  And the protocol for the President is as how the Commandant of the Marine Corps told Reagan....'is as he darn well pleases'. 

 

Would a retired Rear Admiral, and commentator for a liberal TV network, outrank both the President and Marine Corps commandant?  Remember that Obama fired the commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan for disagreeing with him.  He was a full General.

 

But he and you are entitled to your own opinion. 

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