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ChasKy ol' sport, you may have hit on THE answer to why Regressives do what they do. It's obvious to all they love to create problems (needless wars mostly) and then throw oceans of money at it.

And yet when President Trump said he was going to bring the troops home you had a hissy fit.

 

What hasn't been noted is WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO?

 

Answer - into the pockets of the Uberrich Oligarchs who get the "no competition" contracts like Haliburton's directors.

No since we are talking about border security, it goes into the pockets of productive companies providing the needed services and their employees.

 

Since Reagan, those controlling the distribution of profits within a Corporation have not shared the profits with the workers who created it, and they sure aren't going to change their behavior until the Reagan scam is repealed and they have to return to paying their fair share of the support of the Nation.

How do you see the Reagan tax cuts related to border security? Or is that just one more rant?

 

Consider the 2,000,000 contract workers who will never get back the lost pay during the Trump shutdown. THEY lost their homes, cars, etc by repossession and saw their savings disappear. BUT their BOSS lost nothing. True, they won't get paid, but THEY HAD NO EXPENSE DURING THE SHUTDOWN. All they did was to delay their unearned PROFITS until the Government opened back up and resumed paying them twice what they lay out to perform the contract.

Can you list those 2 million people who lost their homes and cars?? I have not heard of that. Possibly that's just another of "those" facts.


 

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The right loves to champion imaginary issues because they are so easy to solve. Put $5 billion in spending for a wall and, presto, illegal immigration is solved. We have all read the facts on illegal immigration. Most illegal immigrants arrive by air. Immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than native born. the caravans present themselves to CBP at the border,  Illegal immigration has been dropping for 10 years. 

 

There is one fact about illegal immigration.  It is an imaginary problem and perfect for Republicans to solve. 


The Cons here always criticized the left, saying that "throwing money at it" won't solve a problem.  But now they want to throw money at a useless wall. Create a problem, throw money at it.


ChasKy ol' sport, you may have hit on THE answer to why Regressives do what they do. It's obvious to all they love to create problems (needless wars mostly) and then throw oceans of money at it.

 

What hasn't been noted is WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO?

 

Answer - into the pockets of the Uberrich Oligarchs who get the "no competition" contracts like Haliburton's directors.

 

Since Reagan, those controlling the distribution of profits within a Corporation have not shared the profits with the workers who created it, and they sure aren't going to change their behavior until the Reagan scam is repealed and they have to return to paying their fair share of the support of the Nation.

 

Consider the 2,000,000 contract workers who will never get back the lost pay during the Trump shutdown. THEY lost their homes, cars, etc by repossession and saw their savings disappear. BUT their BOSS lost nothing. True, they won't get paid, but THEY HAD NO EXPENSE DURING THE SHUTDOWN. All they did was to delay their unearned PROFITS until the Government opened back up and resumed paying them twice what they lay out to perform the contract.

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I couldn't find anything showing the outrage of the left over the deaths of these people. If you can find one for me, I will be glad to post it.
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Like I said...  The wall already exists and was paid for by taxpayer money allocated by the Congress. Now it is time to finish it and fully fund the things needed for border security.  

 

We are a nation that has borders and laws concerning entry into our great nation.  There are people that are willing to break our laws in order to gain entry illegally.  

 

Congress needs to tighten up, get off its ass and quit with the bickering over semantics and party politics and do what the American people sent them there to do.  LEGISLATE!!

 

 

 

 

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@Jim, These deaths do not matter to a party that will only see them as a large number where some deaths do not matter, they are just looking for the survivors to vote. They have no real platform, so they pretend they care about the safety of this group Then, there are some who have this garbage script playing in their head and it is too late to try to change it for something else more reasonable. It has been fed to them too long. Watch for some who use the same script over and over. Play on names over and over. It reminds me of a puppet show. The rest, sad as it is may be a group who for whatever reason just want the pat on the back for a post.

What?  No cartoon?


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@Richva wrote:

The right loves to champion imaginary issues because they are so easy to solve. Put $5 billion in spending for a wall and, presto, illegal immigration is solved. We have all read the facts on illegal immigration. Most illegal immigrants arrive by air. Immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than native born. the caravans present themselves to CBP at the border,  Illegal immigration has been dropping for 10 years. 

 

There is one fact about illegal immigration.  It is an imaginary problem and perfect for Republicans to solve. 


The Cons here always criticized the left, saying that "throwing money at it" won't solve a problem.  But now they want to throw money at a useless wall. Create a problem, throw money at it.


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@KidBoy2 wrote:
alotofgrey posted...



The ONLY reason why we have 14 million illegal immigrants is because our feds (DOJ) do not enforce that law. When they do,...THAT PROBLEM WILL END.



Other than wasting 5 billion, your Trump border wall does nothing to our illegal immigrant problem.

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It shows you just do not understand that if we keep illegals from coming into our country there would be no problem with employers hiring illegals.

FYI...Its not a Trump border.

FYI...Borders have worked and are working...why is it so hard for Shumer and Pelosi to admit that fact?



Happy New Year!

It "goes to show" that you "do not understand".

 

A wall will be gone around, gone under, gone over, and gone through.  Stop businesses and corporations from hiring illegals and they won't come here for jobs. Fine them enough where it makes it unprofitable to hire them ............ it's that simple.

 

A wall won't bring a happy new year, and it won't stop drugs or illegal immigration.


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WE NEED TRUMP'S BORDER WALL PLUS OTHER MEASURES TO REDUCE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

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That is not only true its a fact that I am sure that Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi know but there hate of Trump is more important to them than the safety of our country. Shame on them and the people that support their agenda!

Out board walls and fences are working and needed. One of many things needed to keep our country safe.

Build the wall!

Of course it's "all true" ............. You heard it on FOX !!!!!   ROFLMAO !!!


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The Vainglorious Wall of Trump is a waste of time, will do nothing to improve border security and diverts countless billions from EFFECTIVE means of border control.

 

That said, the Trumpcult was told he'd give them a wall Mexico, will pay for it, and then they'll get the pay raises they think Mexicans and Affirmative Action have kept them from getting for the last 20 years.

 

lil donny needs to keep them thinking that so they'll grab their guns and rush into the streets to rescue him when the FBI slaps on the cuffs and drags him out of his Offal Office to stand trial for Treason.


Does all that gibberish mean that you think (like the Dems) that fences are effective but spiked things are not?

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@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

The right loves to champion imaginary issues because they are so easy to solve. Put $5 billion in spending for a wall and, presto, illegal immigration is solved. We have all read the facts on illegal immigration. Most illegal immigrants arrive by air. Immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than native born. the caravans present themselves to CBP at the border,  Illegal immigration has been dropping for 10 years. 

 

There is one fact about illegal immigration.  It is an imaginary problem and perfect for Republicans to solve. 


I have heard no one say anything like, " presto, illegal immigration is solved" - have you?

 

It is a major issue that requires a lot more serious attention than it is getting. Once the wall issue is settled, I hope they sit down and do some serious talking on the basics like our concept of immigration and the laws and rules (and, of course, enforcement actions) needed to make it happen.


Democrats are well aware of the need for better border controls.  I think the wall issue is pretty much settled unless Trump is planning an emergency declaration or another shutdown.  I would welcome either from him. 

 

The Democrats put quite a bit of money into border security in the last proposal. The one that had bi partisan support and then Trump backed out? You know.  They just aren't into 16th century technology in places we don't need it. 


The wall issue is not settled. But once it is, I hope they can go one to serious redefinition of our immigration policy - with more seriousness than seeing spiked things as 16th century technology but fences as up to date.

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