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There is no way to know whether voters will support 'Medicare for all' because it has yet to be clearly defined. In fact, it seems that among D's, there are various opinions about what this phrase means. Some see it as an extension of Medicare offered to an expanded group of say, those over 50 or 55. Bernie's MFA was outlined in his 2016 campaign, which was totally different. Kamala Harris has yet to outline how her plan would work. Other D's running for president have different ideas of how it should be run.

 

Mostly, D's agree that there should be some form of "universal health care" that would provide coverage to everyone whether by subsidizing premiums for the lower income groups (similar to Medicaid expansion) or as additional taxes to offset premiums (similar to Bernie's plan) or some other plan yet to be identified.

 

Until we know exactly WHAT it is that is being proposed, how can one decide if they are for it or against it? And I do wish that D's would STOP calling it 'Medicare for all' because that just causes confusion. Call it universal health care or give it an appropriate name. Each candidate needs to specify exactly what their plan will do.

 

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The way I see it....

 

Most of us here have Medicare. Most of us, if not all of us, have some sort of private insurance along with our Medicare, or have Medicare Advantage.

 

Now, take the word "Medicare" and add two words...."for All". Private insurance won't disappear. There are some seniors who elect to take Original Medicare Parts A & B only, with no supplemental. They have basic coverage but will have more out of pocket expenses as they get older. 

 

I saw Kamala Harris answering those questions on Medicare for All. She answered well in some aspects, but I noticed that when the commentator said "Let's go to the next question", she said "Why not, too? (giggle-giggle). She doesn't seem confortable answering questions about Medicare for All, and was glad to move onto the next question.

 

Which reminds me of the first time I saw her on video.

 

She announced that she is supporting "Medicare for All", but after the announcement, she said "Somebody should tell my staff, giggle-giggle" I was amazed that she hadn't notified her staff before she commited herself to Medicare for All. Sounds like she's still trying to play catch-up. So, it doesn't surprise me that she got tripped up in the part about "abolishing" private insurance.

 

Here's the video where she was glad to move onto the next question....

 

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For some reason ,those who advocate medicare for all somehow think it is free. After paying into for almost 40 years and receiving no benefits at all ,now the younger people think it is a utopia health plan that everyone is entitled to.  Medicare is hardly free for those of us who reached 65 or older.  My monthly bill for my Medicare (80%),medicare supplement (20%)and prescription drug plan exceeds $400/month.     My wife also pays the same amount. This is far from free.  Perhaps a family of 4 should think about the cost  they would have to pay if they are going to abandon their private insurers.


We have it now and have had it for years. Just go to the ER and you will be treated whether you can pay or not. We have been paying for Medicare for all for years now and the far right do not even understand that. What we have now is the highest cost medical system in the world, and gives some of the poorest outcomes. Our far right has no understanding of the subject. Just read their posts. They do not even know they are pay for it now through Fed., State, Local taxes. No wounder we have Trump as President. The far right once again proves the experts correct about them.

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Olderscout-The notion of getting rid of all private insurance was a "slip of the tongue" by ONE Democrat. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------That One Democrat isn`t the one who is in the daily press everyday-Would it?


Nope. Appearing in the Republican Propaganda Ministry skreeds does not qualify as anything except a strong indication the GOPerLords are terrified and launching their blizzard of lies and hate two years before the next election.

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Olderscout-The notion of getting rid of all private insurance was a "slip of the tongue" by ONE Democrat. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------That One Democrat isn`t the one who is in the daily press everyday-Would it?

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The notion of getting rid of all private insurance was a "slip of the tongue" by ONE Democrat. Since that was NEVER part of the plan to establish Universal Coverage - Single Payer, all the GOPerGarp about how support for the Democratic plan has slipped is nonsense designed to rev up their lofo base.

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For some reason ,those who advocate medicare for all somehow think it is free. After paying into for almost 40 years and receiving no benefits at all ,now the younger people think it is a utopia health plan that everyone is entitled to.  Medicare is hardly free for those of us who reached 65 or older.  My monthly bill for my Medicare (80%),medicare supplement (20%)and prescription drug plan exceeds $400/month.     My wife also pays the same amount. This is far from free.  Perhaps a family of 4 should think about the cost  they would have to pay if they are going to abandon their private insurers.

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Medicare for all will not work in the US   I have always stated that it would be a mistake to try to take Medicare and start changing it without changing the price control that needs to exist with the Drug companies.

We should have a National Health care system that is  tailored to the needs of the US. we need to have additional insurances that will provide the extras that we are all willing to pay. and first and more important of all, Price control on the Drug companies.

yes, Medicare for all should never be instituted.

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Possibly the people are waking up to what it really is and what a fraud that title is. It truly is a combination of a welfare program in disguise and a way of increasing dependency on the government through socialism so as to increase the power of the government.

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Voter Support Of ‘Medicare For All’ Drops By Nearly 50 Percent

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Over the last month, Democratic presidential candidates have shared their vision for single payer health insurance, including “Medicare for All”–a policy that threatens the end of private insurance. According to a new Morning Consult/Politico poll, these progressive proposals coincide with a 50 percent drop in voter support of “Medicare for All” from January to February.

 

Thanks to the popularity of the Medicare program, “Medicare for All” maintained a majority of support since November. But when 2019 started off with a handful of Democrats discussing plans to expand government healthcare programs, voter support quickly fell. The program had a net support of 27 percentage points in January, but dropped by 15 points in the Feb. 7-10 survey.

 

 

Shortly after launching her campaign for a 2020 presidential bid, Senator Kamala Harris called for replacing private insurance with single-payer healthcare.

 

“The idea is that everyone gets access to medical care, and you don’t have to go through the process of going through an insurance company, having them give you approval, going through the paperwork, all of the delay that may require,” Harris said in a town hall on Jan. 28.

 

The Democratic Party and their candidates are splitting over their adherence to a true definition of single-payer that eliminates private insurance completely, and a more incremental plan that slowly expands public coverage. Supporters of a textbook single-payer, like Harris, believe it’s necessary to completely overhaul the system financially to work. However, data shows this policy may be harder to sell to voters than Democrats anticipated.

 

Morning Consult reported that losing private insurance cuts support for “Medicare for All” in half.

In the latest survey, when “Medicare for all” supporters were subsequently asked whether they would still back a government health system that eliminated the private insurance market, about 1 in 2 respondents (49 percent) reaffirmed their position, but just over one-fifth — or 22 percent — withdrew their support outright. Another 29 percent said they no longer knew or had no opinion.

Other presidential hopefuls like Senators Cory Booker and Elizabeth Warren have also called for single-payer healthcare, but not yet endorsed the shuttering of private insurance.

 

https://thefederalist.com/2019/02/13/voter-support-of-medicare-for-all-drops-by-50-percent/

 

 

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