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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
The entire premise of the thread is America bad, UN good... based on a pseudo anti American outrage because of a measure that everyone should morally agree to. That is intellectual cancer... with the intent to spread the malignancy of hate.

The UN is where nations dump their diplomatic refuse. Our involvement in an organization who will not agree that the Jewish nation of Israel nation has the right to exist and will not condemn obvious human right violations is diplomatic hypocrisy at its best.


How is America bad in relation to the U.N.? 

 

 

 

Israel has been a U.N. member state since 1949.  The U.N. obviously recognizes it.

 

 

 

The U.N. condemns human rights violations all the time.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-condemns-severe-human-rights-violations-in-iran/

 

https://www.apnews.com/098c0e2082c54bfebf81e7cae74ae574

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-angola-drc-un/u-n-condemns-human-rights-abuses-in-expulsion-of-co...

 

https://scroll.in/latest/894172/un-condemns-alleged-reprisals-against-human-rights-activists-in-indi...

 

https://www.thedailystar.net/rohingya-crisis/news/un-adopts-resolution-human-rights-situation-myanma...

 

 

 

 

 

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
The entire premise of the thread is America bad, UN good... based on a pseudo anti American outrage because of a measure that everyone should morally agree to. That is intellectual cancer... with the intent to spread the malignancy of hate.

The UN is where nations dump their diplomatic refuse. Our involvement in an organization who will not agree that the Jewish nation of Israel nation has the right to exist and will not condemn obvious human right violations is diplomatic hypocrisy at its best.


Totally irrelivant Fishslayer, also grossly false.

 

lil donny's stooge at the UN voted against it because he was told to.

 

He was told to because donny's base likes their women barefoot and pregnant and the resolution encourages them to get uppity.

 

Now they know donny agrees with them, just like he showed his support to Nazi's, KKK and White Supremacists early in his term. For the GOP base, such "small" acts carry great significance. Been that way since Nixon's Southern Strategy courted the KKK and its supporters.

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The entire premise of the thread is America bad, UN good... based on a pseudo anti American outrage because of a measure that everyone should morally agree to. That is intellectual cancer... with the intent to spread the malignancy of hate.

The UN is where nations dump their diplomatic refuse. Our involvement in an organization who will not agree that the Jewish nation of Israel nation has the right to exist and will not condemn obvious human right violations is diplomatic hypocrisy at its best.


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Why is it we can dismiss the blatant and obvious violence against women around the world? and yet find it necessary to imply the United States is a nation "against fair and equal treatment" to its citizens? all the time knowing it's the failure of individuals not the nation and it's laws?
I know why, because it's an easy default and palpable to polarize traditional Americans by deevolution of thought.

The hypocrisy and the pathological extremism of the UN is beyond the pale and will often be the exact opposite of what is good, right and true.

Because we can and should clean up our own backyard first. 


Yes... you are correct, but our backyard isn't a global backyard and the UN puts the world in context. I reject that.  In the USA, Our individual personal governance is most important when it come to the execution of what is good, right and true. Equal rights is measurable within the execution of law since the law clearly demonstrates intent. Therefore... failure is on the part of the individual, not our nation. 

 

Why would anyone care what the UN says about the "treatment" of people when a large portion of the member nations are human right violators? Y'all need to see things in context rather than an ideology of against-ism. 

 

Once ideology is at the forefront of thought, then you have traded in your brain cells. How does that manifest? Well, by adoption of what others say and believe and constantly repeating it. It's a defence mechanism against anyone who has an opposing view point... and has very little to do with the "view point". 

 

The United States is not "for'' violence against girls because of the UN vote... that's absurd,  it is however for empowering women (girls) to fill  the family leadership void that men have abandoned around the world. 

 

 


There’d be no reason to have a resolution to end violence against girls if every nation had eliminated it. But the reality is no nation is exempt from violence against girls. None. Nations are more likely to succeed in reducing violence if they work together in a coordinated, logical way.  And that’s the whole reason the U.N. exists. To address global issues. And this is a big one. What the US  does, or does not do, matters.  And the optics of our failure to support these resolutions are really bad. We dismissed actual violence against girls, and actual harm from early child marriage for a perceived reference to abortion in either document. As a side note, It’s interesting to me that we condemned these resolutions for that purpose, in effect admitting we see abortion as sexual health.

 

Not sure what your whole “family leadership” thing is about.  Are you referring to The resolution we also failed to support that is against child marriage? 48 of 50 states allow legal child marriage under certain circumstances.

 

 

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/12/18/latest-un-draft-resolution-america-has-problem-with-...

 

“In the U.N. General Assembly on Monday, the United States found itself once again isolated on the world stage on two matters that are essential to women’s rights. It was the only country that opposed nonbinding language in a draft resolution designed to tackle violence against girls and women, as well as sexual harassment. It was also almost alone in its opposition to language used in another draft resolution against early and forced marriage — only the tiny Pacific island nation of Nauru felt comfortable with being on Washington’s side this time. (Nauru is most commonly associated with an Australian offshore migrant camp, where children and other refugees are being held under inhumane conditions, according to rights groups.)

 

In both cases, the United States' opposition on Monday was triggered by references to “sexual and reproductive health,” which the U.S. delegation implied could “suggest the promotion of abortion or a right to abortion that are unacceptable to our administration,” according to Reuters. U.S. statements also indicated that there were concerns about the resolution conflating “physical violence against women with sexual harassment.”


What?  Trump sided against Putin?  Who's Putin's puppets now?

 

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Why is it we can dismiss the blatant and obvious violence against women around the world? and yet find it necessary to imply the United States is a nation "against fair and equal treatment" to its citizens? all the time knowing it's the failure of individuals not the nation and it's laws?
I know why, because it's an easy default and palpable to polarize traditional Americans by deevolution of thought.

The hypocrisy and the pathological extremism of the UN is beyond the pale and will often be the exact opposite of what is good, right and true.

Because we can and should clean up our own backyard first. 


Yes... you are correct, but our backyard isn't a global backyard and the UN puts the world in context. I reject that.  In the USA, Our individual personal governance is most important when it come to the execution of what is good, right and true. Equal rights is measurable within the execution of law since the law clearly demonstrates intent. Therefore... failure is on the part of the individual, not our nation. 

 

Why would anyone care what the UN says about the "treatment" of people when a large portion of the member nations are human right violators? Y'all need to see things in context rather than an ideology of against-ism. 

 

Once ideology is at the forefront of thought, then you have traded in your brain cells. How does that manifest? Well, by adoption of what others say and believe and constantly repeating it. It's a defence mechanism against anyone who has an opposing view point... and has very little to do with the "view point". 

 

The United States is not "for'' violence against girls because of the UN vote... that's absurd,  it is however for empowering women (girls) to fill  the family leadership void that men have abandoned around the world. 

 

 


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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Why is it we can dismiss the blatant and obvious violence against women around the world? and yet find it necessary to imply the United States is a nation "against fair and equal treatment" to its citizens? all the time knowing it's the failure of individuals not the nation and it's laws?
I know why, because it's an easy default and palpable to polarize traditional Americans by deevolution of thought.

The hypocrisy and the pathological extremism of the UN is beyond the pale and will often be the exact opposite of what is good, right and true.

Because we can and should clean up our own backyard first. 

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I get a kick out of Trump supporters who talk about " right , good and true "

Either wilfully blind or Amnesia surfaces , with all due respect !!

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Why is it we can dismiss the blatant and obvious violence against women around the world? Who dismisses it?  Who dismissed the killing of a reporter by trumps buddy????  Sounds like one's compass is broken.....
...and yet find it necessary to imply the United States is a nation "against fair and equal treatment" to its citizens? Because we claim to be exceptional, remember?  We have a Constitution that guarentee's; NOTE GUARANTEES the equal treatment.  It's not that confusing.....
all the time knowing it's the failure of individuals not the nation and it's laws?  It's the failure of those with the responsibility to LEAD and/or enforce the Constitution and our laws.
I know why, because it's an easy default and palpable to polarize traditional Americans by deevolution of thought.  "traditional Americans"?  The KKK is a tradition for some.  So are those who support the killings in the Pittsburgh synagogue. Many of trumps supporters consider themselves "traditional Americans" as they chant "Take America Back".  These are traditional Americans many think we could do far better without.

The hypocrisy and the pathological extremism of the UN is beyond the pale The UN doesn't exist for the benefit of America.....it's far more objective......and will often be the exact opposite of what is good, right and true.  Is morality relative or universal?

 


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Why is it we can dismiss the blatant and obvious violence against women around the world? and yet find it necessary to imply the United States is a nation "against fair and equal treatment" to its citizens? all the time knowing it's the failure of individuals not the nation and it's laws?
I know why, because it's an easy default and palpable to polarize traditional Americans by deevolution of thought.

The hypocrisy and the pathological extremism of the UN is beyond the pale and will often be the exact opposite of what is good, right and true.

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