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WE are now over 100,000 mostly seniors dead - after the President said it would disappear and he had it under control.  And he sits up there without a mask, telling people not to wear them, and we die as a result.  What is wrong with this guy?  We elected him.  Clearly he doesn't care about older people.

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Nice try but no **bleep**

I see AZ number of cases rising fast now. Yuma by reports we get is in trouble, and demonstrations at a prison  with a  high count. Looks like even the fake Trump model can not help the Gov. cover up his mess. I see the AZ part of the Navajo Nation leads the way in number of cases. Were the people who held the Christian revival meeting on the Nation from AZ?

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For the record, as of 2pm 2uesday the 26th of May 2020, the MORTALITY rate for Covid19 in the USA is: (99,738/1,700,000=) 5.9%, or FIFTY-NINE TIMES MORE DEADLY THAN THE FLU.

 

Not exactly, the mortality rate in the US is 3.067% so far, 

 

Population of the United States 
Year Population  
2020331,002,651

 

 

United States

Coronavirus Cases:
1,738,156
Deaths:
101,529
 
Many of these comparisons pointed to the perhaps underappreciated toll of the flu, which causes millions of illnesses and tens of thousands of deaths every year in the U.S. alone. The CDC estimates that there have been 39 million to 56 million flu illnesses and 24,000 to 62,000 flu deaths in the U.S., although that number is an estimate based on hospitalizations with flu symptoms, not based on actually counting up every person who has died of flu.
 
With discrepancies on both sides of the mortality rate during this bout with COVID-19 the numbers appear to be higher than normal but even the CDC admits they do not have an accurate count in a
normal flu season.
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Yep, the reported mortality rate COULD decline if we have more RedState GOPerGovs diddle the numbers like Florida started doing a couple weeks ago. Sadly, it will still be closer to 6% than 0.24%, but FoxBots will feel better about sacrificing themselves on the altar of Toad's ego IF they THINK their chance of survival is significantly better than it really is, just like they are happy THINKING Toad gave them a taxcut and his imaginary wall is saving their jobs.

 

For the record, as of 2pm 2uesday the 26th of May 2020, the MORTALITY rate for Covid19 in the USA is: (99,738/1,700,000=) 5.9%, or FIFTY-NINE TIMES MORE DEADLY THAN THE FLU.

 

Having our wonderful, most expensive in the World health care system makes us better than the rest of the World, where the mortality rate is 6.0%, so spending TWICE  (200%) as much for health care than the next most expensive system is giving us a wopping 1.6% better chance of surviving than a victim in, say, sub-Sarahan Africa.

 

Step right up GOPers, and tell us WHY we should keep what you think is a wonderful health care system that provides about the same "protection" as we'd get in Somolia?

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As of Monday May 25th, Memorial Day, the total number of reported Covid-19 Deaths is: 99,702

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As of Sunday May 24th, the U.S. Covid-19 Death Total is: 98,120

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The article from Daniel Payne is interesting, but it's not science. Overall, it's an opinion piece. It's based on the premise of "it could be, "if accurate", etc. At this point in time, there are no definitive answers. But we do know what the U.S. Death Rate is as of Saturday May 23rd: 97,781

 

I believe those are the total number of Covid-19 deaths for the past 3 months. If my time frame is correct, that means over 30,000 Americans are dying every month. That's a terrifying rate of deaths.

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CDC: Coronavirus fatality rate could be as low as 0.26%

 

Earlier estimates pegged the rate significantly higher

 

BY:  Daniel Payne

 

New estimates released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that COVID-19 may have an infection fatality rate as low as 0.26%, a number that is double the seasonal flu but significantly lower than earlier estimates. 

 

Determining the infection fatality rate of the illness has been a critical goal of scientists around the world since the discovery of the disease in late November. Infectious disease experts were shocked at the end of last year and into 2020 at both how quickly the disease spread and how many of those who became ill ultimately died. 

 

In early February, modelers at Imperial College London estimated that around 1% of infections of COVID-19 would ultimately result in death. That number, which is about 10 times higher than the seasonal flu, shocked much of the world, including the U.K. government and most of the 50 U.S. state governments, into shutting down major swaths of their economies and placing many of their citizens under strict stay-at-home orders. 

 

Those high estimates have persisted in recent months. In early March, White House adviser Anthony Fauci said the disease was "10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu." The Trump administration would eventually go on to urge temporary severe mitigation measures across the United States, including pulling children from school, limiting gatherings to fewer than 10 people, and refraining from eating at restaurants and bars. 

 

Numbers have dropped over time

 

Over the past several weeks, however, the estimates of the fatality rate have brightened considerably. Driven in part by large-scale serology tests, which have consistently indicated that the disease is far more widespread and consequently less deadly than it initially seemed, scientists have lately been revising their fatality rate assumptions down significantly. 

 

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this week continued that trend, releasing a list of what it called "COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios." That document laid out five different scenarios for public health experts and government officials to consider, one of which the agency called its "current best estimate" of the parameters of the viral pandemic. 

 

That scenario states that the overall fatality rate of infections that show symptoms is around 0.4%. Yet the CDC says it estimates that around 35% of all infectious are asymptomatic, meaning that the total infection fatality rate under the agency's "best estimate" scenario is around 0.26%, or a little more than twice that of the seasonal flu. 

 

Those numbers, while much lower than the earlier estimates that drove the lockdowns, still represent a significant number of deaths, as well as a significant burden on local healthcare systems that can become overwhelmed by COVID-19.

 

The CDC estimates that as many as 60,000 Americans die of the flu in an average year, meaning—if the agency's current estimates are correct—the U.S. could still see tens of thousands of more deaths before the fatalities begin to recede. 

 

The disease itself also appears to spread more easily than seasonal influenza, meaning even if COVID-19's infection fatality rate were equal to that of the flu, the total number of deaths from it would still likely exceed that of influenza simply because it would infect more people. 

 

Yet the lower numbers, if accurate, are an encouraging sign that the disease is not as lethal as was earlier estimated. Policymakers and public health officials, of course, can only act on the best data available to them—and much of the data over the past few months has been encouraging, suggesting the way out of the pandemic may not be as difficult as once thought. 

 

 

 

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The infections and deaths in Blue States are leveling off while Red States continue to climb.

 

The only way some Red States are reporting lower numbers is by lying, like Florida's GOPerGov is doing as we speak. The spike in deaths in the Red States should arrive in about 2 more weeks, 3 weeks after their ill-advised opening of nail salons, tattoo parlors and bars to pander to their base.

 

Since the rush to open commerce, the DAILY death toll has gone from 1,073 on 21 May to 1,464 on the 23d = 36% jump in THREE DAYS! Take a victory lap Toadlovers, and don't forget to wave that MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner you inherited from jrbush.

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As of Saturday May 23rd, the last death count I saw was 97,477

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