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Message 11 of 53

@CriticalThinking 

The cult continues it’s spreading of lies about the Mueller report. 

Only trump, barr, sarah, and mitch have stated that there was no collusion, no obstruction. 

There is video and written proof that Mueller did not state that, and the cult continues to lie about that, and misrepresent the facts. 

What they do not mention are the indictments, convictions, and all of the investigations ongoing. Nor do they mention the current obstruction by trump

concerning information he will not provide that has been legally requested, or the people that he is obstructing and preventing from giving testimony. 

In fact his legal team is lying by claiming that there is now some sort of “universal privilege” which does not exist for obstructions taking place.

I am continually surprised and dismayed

by the number of people who openly support and seem to desire a criminal enterprise to run our country...not for me!

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Message 12 of 53

Trump's blindly loyal following is a cult. They will NEVER:

  • Disagree with Trump
  • Criciticize Trump
  • Care when he repeatedly LIES to them
  • READ the Mueller Report
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@CriticalThinking wrote:

It's really terrifying to watch Trump's Cult residing in an alternate reality filled with FAKE NEWS. And the big irony is the fact that they're always complaining the real media puts out fake news. This is exactly what happened in Germany during the 1930s, when Hitler's MInister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, was the expert.

 

In 2019, the Joseph Goebbels propaganda model has been perfected by Fox and thoroughly absorbed by Trump's Cult.


I wish I could post a film about Fidel Castro in the 1959-60 and show, the Cubans hailing Fidel ,spouting insults to the US. and claiming that he was the Messiah that would bring Cuba with  what Trump says today. Making Cuba great again.
The manipulations of the crowds that existed at that time in Cuba is what I see many times here today.
It wasn't until, things started to go bad for many of those people that were enchanted by Fidel's words that things began to change for him. And of curse we know that most of them are here in the US as of now.
In the same manner that I regret what happened in Cuba which is where my experience lies, I am concerned now, in this country because I am seeing many of the same things happening.
 I  also see, that they are tyring to fight Trump with another very dangerous tool and that is the leftists/socialist tool. both in my opinion are very dangerous. and bad.

 

 

 

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Message 14 of 53

It's really terrifying to watch Trump's Cult residing in an alternate reality filled with FAKE NEWS. And the big irony is the fact that they're always complaining the real media puts out fake news. This is exactly what happened in Germany during the 1930s, when Hitler's MInister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, was the expert.

 

In 2019, the Joseph Goebbels propaganda model has been perfected by Fox and thoroughly absorbed by Trump's Cult.

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Message 15 of 53

Robert Mueller has one report and he stands behind it 100%. 

 

Fox stands behind the AG Barr bogus capsule summary of the report. And they repeat the Barr version endlessly on their network.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Trump's Cult is not responding to Mueller, they are responding to the fairy tale version put out by AG Barr and then repeatedly pounded into the psyche of their viewers by Fox.


What specifically has Fox pounded into our heads that you consider at odds with the  Mueller report? And when considering that please decide if you are talking about the actual Mueller report, or his follow-up document give to the Dems in Congress to be used to continue the harassment of the President when the tic-toc clock ran out.

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Message 17 of 53

@jimc91 wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

JimC said, "You can't obstruct justice concernaing a matter that never occured.  Plain and simple..."

 

JimC was completely wrong again. "Obstruction of justice, in United States jurisdictions, is a process crime, consisting of obstructing prosecutors or other officials (usually government)."


Perhaps you could provide legal precedent then.

 

And while you are at it show where Trump (candidate or President) prevented Mueller from doing his job.

 

 

I believe the point is that there was no crime for Mueller to investigate so how does one obstruct his investigation when there was no crime to investigate. Yes, the "process crime" is an old game. Scotter Libby was convicted of a process crime when it was known that the leaking of Valarie Plame's name was done by Richard Armitage And the Special Council knew that.

It isn't a lot diferent from the con game played on Michael Flynn.


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Trump's Cult is not responding to Mueller, they are responding to the fairy tale version put out by AG Barr and then repeatedly pounded into the psyche of their viewers by Fox.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:Interferred with - yes, but no one has yet shown a single vote they changed. 

 

 

 

Really?

 

Trump transition official in email: Russia 'has just thrown the U.S.A election'

President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday.

McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia, "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362951-trump-transition-official-in-email-russia-has-jus...


She said that obama's actions would make it hard for Trump to improve relations with Russia. How can that means what is constantly being implied.

 

And, once again - no one has shown a single vote changed by the Russians.


That Because We Have A Do-nothing Congress & 30 or more States with GOP Legislatures or GOP Governors who don't want to the Status Quo to Change

 

Most States are using Election Equipment and Election Procedures that are so old they have No Security and Have No Auditing Functions add that to the Good Ole Boy Incumbent Election Officials that have No Honor

 

How Would We Know if the Russians or anyone else changed anything

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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" - Anonymous

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@Panjandrum wrote:

rk9152:Interferred with - yes, but no one has yet shown a single vote they changed. 

 

 

 

Really?

 

Trump transition official in email: Russia 'has just thrown the U.S.A election'

President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday.

McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia, "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362951-trump-transition-official-in-email-russia-has-jus...


She said that obama's actions would make it hard for Trump to improve relations with Russia. How can that means what is constantly being implied.

 

And, once again - no one has shown a single vote changed by the Russians.

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