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@john258 wrote:

@NerdyMom wrote:

The world has ended because I agree with David Frum.   But if this past year has proven anything, it's that the Republican party does not care about American values.  They only care that they win. 

And I don't understand why true conservatives aren't fighting this from within.

 

 

"I’m horrified, but I’m not shocked. The Republican Party has a platform that can’t prevail in democratic competition. This is one of the big themes of this book, and why I think this situation is so dangerous. When highly committed parties strongly believe [in] things that they cannot achieve democratically, they don’t give up on their beliefs — they give up on democracy."

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/18/16880524/donald-trump-democracy-republicans-trumpocracy


In short what the book is telling us is that we are on the path Germany was on in the 1930, and if we do not end that path now Trump will be our Hitler. This is a Reb. who wrote the book so you see as I have put it all thinking people are  starting to see that now. Wake up people.


Ah yes, the "Nazi" meme. When all logic fails drag out it or KKK or fascist, or racist, or alt-right.

 

There are to realities that must be accepted - President Trump is not a career pol such as we are used to therefore things are going to be quite different.

 

As to American values, you also have to accept that he has stopped the "long march" of the neoMarxists. I understand that to some, Marxism does represent the ideal - it just isn't our traditional governmental form.


Hey - a change - no inane rhetorical questions - just meaningless conservative twaddle deriving from the failed past - where Goldwater and Romney abjectly failed, Nixon was forced to resign, Ford perfidiously pardoned the felon - Reagan showed the world what undiagnosed early Alzheimer looks like - and Dubya - after incompetently allowing 911 to occur - dishonestly lied us into two wars.

 

That conservative/republican slapstick political comedy is almost as good as the Keystone Cops...

 

 

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
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@john258 wrote:

@NerdyMom wrote:

The world has ended because I agree with David Frum.   But if this past year has proven anything, it's that the Republican party does not care about American values.  They only care that they win. 

And I don't understand why true conservatives aren't fighting this from within.

 

 

"I’m horrified, but I’m not shocked. The Republican Party has a platform that can’t prevail in democratic competition. This is one of the big themes of this book, and why I think this situation is so dangerous. When highly committed parties strongly believe [in] things that they cannot achieve democratically, they don’t give up on their beliefs — they give up on democracy."

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/18/16880524/donald-trump-democracy-republicans-trumpocracy


In short what the book is telling us is that we are on the path Germany was on in the 1930, and if we do not end that path now Trump will be our Hitler. This is a Reb. who wrote the book so you see as I have put it all thinking people are  starting to see that now. Wake up people.


Ah yes, the "Nazi" meme. When all logic fails drag out it or KKK or fascist, or racist, or alt-right.

 

There are to realities that must be accepted - President Trump is not a career pol such as we are used to therefore things are going to be quite different.

 

As to American values, you also have to accept that he has stopped the "long march" of the neoMarxists. I understand that to some, Marxism does represent the ideal - it just isn't our traditional governmental form.

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@NerdyMom wrote:

The world has ended because I agree with David Frum.   But if this past year has proven anything, it's that the Republican party does not care about American values.  They only care that they win. 

And I don't understand why true conservatives aren't fighting this from within.

 

 

"I’m horrified, but I’m not shocked. The Republican Party has a platform that can’t prevail in democratic competition. This is one of the big themes of this book, and why I think this situation is so dangerous. When highly committed parties strongly believe [in] things that they cannot achieve democratically, they don’t give up on their beliefs — they give up on democracy."

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/18/16880524/donald-trump-democracy-republicans-trumpocracy


In short what the book is telling us is that we are on the path Germany was on in the 1930, and if we do not end that path now Trump will be our Hitler. This is a Reb. who wrote the book so you see as I have put it all thinking people are  starting to see that now. Wake up people.

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The world has ended because I agree with David Frum.   But if this past year has proven anything, it's that the Republican party does not care about American values.  They only care that they win. 

And I don't understand why true conservatives aren't fighting this from within.

 

 

"I’m horrified, but I’m not shocked. The Republican Party has a platform that can’t prevail in democratic competition. This is one of the big themes of this book, and why I think this situation is so dangerous. When highly committed parties strongly believe [in] things that they cannot achieve democratically, they don’t give up on their beliefs — they give up on democracy."

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/18/16880524/donald-trump-democracy-republicans-trumpocracy

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