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Trump warns in 2011 interview that Obama will start a war in Iran to get elected...

you just can't make this stuff up!! Back in 2011 Trump warned that Obama would start a war with Iran in order to get  re elected. He said Obama was weak and so would start a war with Iran... He tweeted about it as well........looks like the table has been turned sir!! What a hypocrite!!!

 

Trump warns in 2011 interview Obama will start war with Iran to get re elected! 

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What else could we expect from a coward who can't face a legitimate,  fair impeachment trial since he knows if the trial was held with documents and honest witnesses he would be out of a job (thank goodness) so he uses his own play book, creating a huge diversion. A war!..How cowardly -but what else could one expect from the liar-in-chief who occupies the Oval Office right now. 

 

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@troublesniffer8 wrote:

What else could we expect from a coward who can't face a legitimate,  fair impeachment trial since he knows if the trial was held with documents and honest witnesses he would be out of a job (thank goodness) so he uses his own play book, creating a huge diversion. A war!..How cowardly -but what else could one expect from the list-in-chief who occupies the Oval Office right now. 


Right you are, troublesniffer.  I say his kids should get dressed and lead the troops into harms way! Just like others posting here.  


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Trump thought war with Iran could help reelect Obama. What about Trump?

 

The president who once mused about a president attacking Iran to win reelection has now inched closer to war with Iran — in his own reelection year.

 

But if President Trump truly thinks a new war in the Middle East might help him win, he might want to think again.

 

Ever since the controversial decision to kill a high-ranking Iranian military official in Baghdad on Thursday, Trump’s critics have anxiously pointed to his past commentary on the politics of war with Iran. Trump repeatedly in 2011 and 2012 predicted Barack Obama would attack Iran because it was the only way he would be reelected. Trump was doubly wrong: The attack never came, and Obama won comfortably anyway.

 
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@BarackObama will attack Iran in the not too distant future because it will help him win the election. If the… (cont) http://deck.ly/~RSKCl 

 

But as he confronts his own difficult reelection math and a standoff with Iran, it’s worth considering whether Trump might be making a similar calculation for himself — however cynical that thought might be.

 

What we can say at this point: There’s little reason to believe it would help.

 

Pollsters and political analysts often talk about a “rally around the flag” effect that comes when the United States is attacked or launches new military campaigns. And there is something to that. But it’s often quite short-lived, and there’s little evidence it has actually helped any recent president win reelection.

 

The most recent example would be the Iraq War, which George W. Bush launched in March 2003. According to Gallup data, his approval rating increased from 58 percent just before the invasion to 71 percent immediately afterward. But it was back to 58 percent just four months later, and despite the capture of Saddam Hussein in late 2003, on the eve of the 2004 election it stood at 48 percent.

 

Approval of the war was middling by then, with exit polls showing 51 percent approved of the decision to go to war, but 52 percent felt it was going “badly.” While Bush won reelection, the war wasn’t viewed as an asset, and it eventually became a black mark on his legacy.

 

His father got an even bigger bump from his own decision to go to war in Iraq. After the launch of Operation Desert Storm in January 1991, George H.W. Bush’s approval rating shot up from 64 percent to 82 percent — and eventually to an astounding 89 percent after the success of the mission became fully evident. He even got a three-minute standing ovation in a March 1991 address to Congress.

 

George H.W. Bush's approval rating throughout his presidency. His final approval rating before Operation Desert Storm is highlighted. (Gallup)
George H.W. Bush's approval rating throughout his presidency. His final approval rating before Operation Desert Storm is highlighted. (Gallup)

At the time, it was scaring potential Democratic opponents away, with one poll showing Bush leading then-New York Gov. Mario Cuomo, the supposed great Democratic hope, by 62 points. Democrats were “fairly resigned to the idea that the 1992 presidential election was decided during Operation Desert Storm,” The Washington Post’s Mary McGrory wrote in mid-March 1991.

 

The bump was gone by October 1991, though, and Bush was under 50 percent by January 1992, a year after the war’s launch. He stayed there until losing reelection to Bill Clinton.

 

Lyndon Johnson won the 1964 presidential race after assuming the presidency in 1963 and the passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which formalized U.S. involvement in Vietnam, in August 1964. But he didn’t realize any noticeable bounce from the entry into the war shortly before the election, and he was already hugely popular, with an approval rating above 70 percent. The war soon bogged down his first full term, and he opted not to seek reelection in 1968 in large part because of Vietnam.

 

On a smaller scale, the invasion of Granada in October 1983 doesn’t seem to have moved the needle for Ronald Reagan, even as he easily won reelection in 1984. His approval rating ticked up over 50 percent afterward, but as Gallup notes, that appeared to owe to a terrorist explosion that killed 241 American Marines in Beirut the same month and, perhaps most importantly, a surging economy.

 

Fast forward to today, and there is little evidence of a desire for war with Iran. A Gallup poll in July showed just 18 percent favored military action there, and that number only went up to 42 percent if diplomatic efforts failed to shut down Iran’s nuclear program. Another poll showed 57 percent opposed military action unless Iran attacked the United States first.

 

Those numbers could always change with the circumstances; at the time of the July poll, for example, the most recent major event was Iran sending fuel products to Syria. But there is little reason to believe a new war would create such a rallying effect. One reason is war fatigue from the prolonged efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan — events that Trump himself has said epitomize the need to get out of the Middle East. The other is the fact that almost nothing has moved Trump’s approval rating. It has stood in the high 30s or low 40s for pretty much his entire tenure.

 

Combine that with the amount of time until the election and the unpredictability of war with a developed country like Iran, and history suggests that Trump might want to reflect on how wrong he was in 2011 and 2012.

 

Trump thought war with Iran could help reelect Obama. What about Trump? 


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Centrists posted--The most recent example would be the Iraq War, which George W. Bush launched in March 2003. According to Gallup data, his approval rating increased from 58 percent just before the invasion to 71 percent immediately afterward. But it was back to 58 percent just four months later, and despite the capture of Saddam Hussein in late 2003, on the eve of the 2004 election it stood at 48 percent.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for proving a point.Taking out bad guys really doesn`t effect a president re-electability-Think about it ,Bush took out Sadamn Huessin everyone thought it was a good thing-Obama took out Bin Laden and Khadafy,people thought it was a good thing. Trump takes out Baghdaddi and Solimani (Proven terrorists)and the Dems and liberal media call it murder.Go figure! Hypocrites at best.

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@easyed598 wrote:

Centrists posted--The most recent example would be the Iraq War, which George W. Bush launched in March 2003. According to Gallup data, his approval rating increased from 58 percent just before the invasion to 71 percent immediately afterward. But it was back to 58 percent just four months later, and despite the capture of Saddam Hussein in late 2003, on the eve of the 2004 election it stood at 48 percent.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks for proving a point.Taking out bad guys really doesn`t effect a president re-electability-Think about it ,Bush took out Sadamn Huessin everyone thought it was a good thing-Obama took out Bin Laden and Khadafy,people thought it was a good thing. Trump takes out Baghdaddi and Solimani (Proven terrorists)and the Dems and liberal media call it murder.Go figure! Hypocrites at best.


Wrong again, EZ....hypocrites if the issues were similar.....many adults can think and can see the differences between the situations.


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@easyed598 wrote:

 


This topic is about the hypocrite that tRump is. After he slammed Obama in 2011, accusing him of starting a war in Iran to "get elected", he effectively has done just that himself.

 

Ya' just can't make this stuff up.

 

And tRump minions run to his rescue as usual.


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In the bigoted alternate reality of Trump World, where facts and the truth are irrelevant, Obama was a terrible president. In the real world where people rely upon facts and the truth, Obama was an excellent president. 

  • Unlike Comrade Trump, he had no convicted felons in his campaign and administration
  • Unlike Comrade Trump, he respected the rule of law
  • Unlike Comrade Trump, Obama is an honest man
  • Unlike Comrade Trump, he didn't spend all his time insulting others or assaulting women
  • Unlike Comrade Trump, he was thoroughly disliked by Vladimir
  • Unlike Comrade Trump, Obama never sent love letters to brutal North Korean Dictator, Kim Jong Un
  • Along with GW Bush, President Obama saved GM and Chrysler
  • Our nation's banks were saved
  • They hunted down and killed Osama Bin Laden
  • Hundreds of Al Qaeda leaders were killed
  • 3/4 of ISIS forces were killed during the Obama Administration
  • Set a record for job growth
  • The unemployment rate was cut in half
  • The stock market more than tripled in value during the Obama Administration
  • Health Insurance was changed for the better in many ways
  • The crime rate was at its lowest level in years
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The following is more radical right wing propaganda/fake news. 

 

"Obama foolishly funded our enemy Iran millions of dollars, which should have been labeled treasonous. "

 

President Obama RETURNED money which belonged to Iran. In return he got an agreement to stop their nuclear development program. Nobody funded Iran. 

 

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Well said CT. It's interesting that trump wants to strike against Iran, but will take no action against real enemies such as russia and north korea!

Just more hypocrisy from trump and to deflect from his impeachment...all decisions made while partying at maralago!

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@williamb39198 wrote:

Well said CT. It's interesting that trump wants to strike against Iran, but will take no action against real enemies such as russia and north korea!

Just more hypocrisy from trump and to deflect from his impeachment...all decisions made while partying at maralago!


Are you advocating war with Russia and/or North Korea then?

 

North Korea attacked Sony. They launched rockets in the sky. They threatened the United States for releasing the interview starring Seth Rogan and James Franco. Obama cowardly did not respond showing American weakness.

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@AristotleOfGreece wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

Well said CT. It's interesting that trump wants to strike against Iran, but will take no action against real enemies such as russia and north korea!

Just more hypocrisy from trump and to deflect from his impeachment...all decisions made while partying at maralago!


Are you advocating war with Russia and/or North Korea then?

 

North Korea attacked Sony. They launched rockets in the sky. They threatened the United States for releasing the interview starring Seth Rogan and James Franco. Obama cowardly did not respond showing American weakness.


And trump exchanges love letters....


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both Kim and Vlad are playing Trump like the fiddle he is...now that is SAD!
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First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.

The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own.

The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the MONEY THAT WAS UNFROZEN BELONGED TO IRAN .

It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program.

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@JANMB wrote:

First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.

The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own.

The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the MONEY THAT WAS UNFROZEN BELONGED TO IRAN .

It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program.


Obama was a complete disaster. He negotiated with terrorists. Traded away our assets for a traitor in Beau. He bowed down to the Japanese emperor, danced with the Castro regime.

 

Worst president of our lifetime. 

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Moscow45:  Obama was a complete disaster. He negotiated with terrorists. Traded away our assets for a traitor in Beau. He bowed down to the Japanese emperor, danced with the Castro regime.

 

 

Well, it's true Obama didn't get any love letters from Kim Jong Un like the beached Manatee dealing with him now. That's not going to turn out well.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

Moscow45:  Obama was a complete disaster. He negotiated with terrorists. Traded away our assets for a traitor in Beau. He bowed down to the Japanese emperor, danced with the Castro regime.

 

Well, it's true Obama didn't get any love letters from Kim Jong Un like the beached Manatee dealing with him now. That's not going to turn out well.


Panjandrum: Although I am not  a card-carrying psychic, it came to me in a dream that President Obama wasn't at all jealous of 45 when, during a rally in Wheeling West Virginia on September 30, 2018, tRUMPf announced that "He and North Korean leader, Kim Jong Un 'fell in love.'

 

However, when Kim became impatient with stalled talks he resumed missile testing, flaunting his military prowess deciding that there no longer was any real value in continuing to play the "beached Manatee (Great description) like a Stradivarius violin. That certainly put the kibosh on any fragment of a "love affair" that only existed in 45's imagination.  Kim also bragged about an upcoming "Christmas Surprise" and brazenly announced that North Korea was no longer bound by the self-imposed Nuclear test moratorium.

 

And now, with tensions rapidly growing in the Middle East, with Iranians demonstrating rage and grief over the slaying of General Soleimani, they are shouting "Kill Americans".Instead of trying to de-escalate dangerous situations,  45 is ramping up tensions tweeting threats that if any Americans are killed,  52 Iranian locations are targeted to be hit hard and fast.  These 52 locations represent the 52 American hostages taken by Iran in 1979).

 

It sure seems to me that although 45 keeps saying that he does not wish to start a war, he is doing everything possible to invite one. Will this really help him be re-elected in November? If so we are really in deep trouble as a Country. 

 

 

 

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don't you think the timing of Trumps escalation is also interesting? I think he is looking for ANYTHING to take the news off the pending impeachment trail, but to be such a flat out hypocrite is just inexcusable. OOPS.
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@Tom5678 wrote:
don't you think the timing of Trumps escalation is also interesting? I think he is looking for ANYTHING to take the news off the pending impeachment trail, but to be such a flat out hypocrite is just inexcusable. OOPS.

Absolutely. You hit the nail on the head! King Hypocrite strikes again. 

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Elizabeth Warren is speaking out and also questions the timing of this attack. Good on her!
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Tom wrote-Elizabeth Warren is speaking out and also questions the timing of this attack. Good on her!---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Timing??? Guess she didn`t know that our Iraq  Embassy was attack 2 days earlier and then Soloamani shows up.What do you think he was up to?  Timing couldn`t have been better.
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@Panjandrum wrote:

Moscow45:  Obama was a complete disaster. He negotiated with terrorists. Traded away our assets for a traitor in Beau. He bowed down to the Japanese emperor, danced with the Castro regime.

 

 

Well, it's true Obama didn't get any love letters from Kim Jong Un like the beached Manatee dealing with him now. That's not going to turn out well.


No, Obama didn't get promised a gift by Kim Jong Un, tRump did. More nukes and more long range missiles.

 

 


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@AristotleOfGreece wrote:


Obama was a complete disaster. Yet he is still far more popular and appreciated than trump could EVER dream of......

 

He negotiated with terrorists, Like trump negotiated with Kim Jong-un?  The Taliban?  Like that????  Traded away our assets for a traitor in Beau.  LMAO!!! He bowed down to the Japanese emperor,  too funny.....our ally.....he didn't kiss the butt of Putin or suck-up to him, but you're OK with that, eh Moscow? danced with the Castro regime.  Opening new markets to our closest neighbor.....just terrible!!!!  The Conservative spew is simply just that, laughable!!!

 

trump remains the most crooked and corrupt POTUS in history!


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Trump realized long ago that Obama was a weakling and Iran doesn't respect weakness.  Now you realize that Iran only respects strong governments - now you understand where he stands.  He will not send a planeload of money, he will not swap one prisoner for many, he will make sure Iran doesn't develop nuclear weapons. He will continue to deal with them from a position of strength.

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Obama was respected around the world, unlike our current leader. Too bad Trump didn't try to eliminate the video where he was interviewed back in 2011, talking about how Obama supposedly would take us to war with Iran so he could get re elected. Trump is a complete hypocrite! Bush made the biggest foreign policy mistake in our country's history when he invaded Iraq. Did Trump just do the second biggest blunder? Time will tell....stay tuned.
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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Trump realized long ago that Obama was a weakling and Iran doesn't respect weakness.  Now you realize that Iran only respects strong governments - now you understand where he stands.  He will not send a planeload of money, he will not swap one prisoner for many, he will make sure Iran doesn't develop nuclear weapons. He will continue to deal with them from a position of strength.


This isn't an isolated incident. This has been boiling for a while now.

At this point, we are in the phase of managing escalating conflict. We shouldn't cause further escalation or retreat. Trump is playing the long game. Obama played the retreat game.

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Trump is playing a game alright, it's abundantly clear. A game he may lose. The U.K. has already called on him to cool it today. OOOPS!
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@AristotleOfGreece wrote:

@JANMB wrote:

First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.

The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own.

The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Iran’s assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the MONEY THAT WAS UNFROZEN BELONGED TO IRAN .

It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country’s nuclear program.


Obama was a complete disaster. He negotiated with terrorists. Traded away our assets for a traitor in Beau. He bowed down to the Japanese emperor, danced with the Castro regime.

 

Worst president of our lifetime. 


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Is your last name Mitch? Your comments indicate your with the Trump cult. Now that is sad!
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Tom wrote-Is your last name Mitch? Your comments indicate your with the Trump cult. Now that is sad!-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Poor Tom still under the illusion that a cult is 63 million people-" 
 
  • "a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister"       Cerainly doesn`t fit Trump supporters
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