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An experienced negotiator (or any intelligent person) would have done just what Pelosi did when Trump made his demand. Maybe Trump could find some 5 year olds to teach him how to negotiate since they can do a much better job than has shown.


Fine - we have one experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of not funding physical barriers as part of the budget and another experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of physical barriers must be part of the budget.

 

Which is at fault? Which needs the 5 year old for advice?


Wrong, there is no experienced negotiator (or intelligent person) negotiating for a wall. 

 


Kind of makes you think we should have hired an experienced person for that job. Someone who had already worked in the WH for 8 years, was a U.S. Senator and a Secretary of State.   Where could we have found such a wunderkind? 


Out making speeches about how it is everyone's fault but hers that she lost the election.


I suspect even  someone like that would be better than the one who proudly shuts our government down.   

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@Richva wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:


An experienced negotiator (or any intelligent person) would have done just what Pelosi did when Trump made his demand. Maybe Trump could find some 5 year olds to teach him how to negotiate since they can do a much better job than has shown.


Fine - we have one experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of not funding physical barriers as part of the budget and another experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of physical barriers must be part of the budget.

 

Which is at fault? Which needs the 5 year old for advice?


Wrong, there is no experienced negotiator (or intelligent person) negotiating for a wall. 

 


Kind of makes you think we should have hired an experienced person for that job. Someone who had already worked in the WH for 8 years, was a U.S. Senator and a Secretary of State.   Where could we have found such a wunderkind? 


Out making speeches about how it is everyone's fault but hers that she lost the election.

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@Richva wrote:

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An experienced negotiator (or any intelligent person) would have done just what Pelosi did when Trump made his demand. Maybe Trump could find some 5 year olds to teach him how to negotiate since they can do a much better job than has shown.


Fine - we have one experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of not funding physical barriers as part of the budget and another experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of physical barriers must be part of the budget.

 

Which is at fault? Which needs the 5 year old for advice?


You know, Trump once offered to take an IQ test. It is starting to look like we need to accept that offer. 

 

The one at fault is the one who said he would accept a deal hammered out by hundreds of people over many months and then changed his mind when Limbaugh said he was being a bad boy. 


O.K. you got your dig in.

 

Now, as to the post you were theoretically responding to - which is at fault?

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@Controlled42010 wrote:

Okay, so now what about these:

 

https://workpermit.com/immigration/usa/us-h-1b-visa-specialty-workers


What about them?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW=Nrj6-aUA&index=23&list=WL&t=0s

(trying to edit the link)

 


@Richva wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Snoopy48 wrote:


An experienced negotiator (or any intelligent person) would have done just what Pelosi did when Trump made his demand. Maybe Trump could find some 5 year olds to teach him how to negotiate since they can do a much better job than has shown.


Fine - we have one experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of not funding physical barriers as part of the budget and another experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of physical barriers must be part of the budget.

 

Which is at fault? Which needs the 5 year old for advice?


Wrong, there is no experienced negotiator (or intelligent person) negotiating for a wall. 

 


Kind of makes you think we should have hired an experienced person for that job. Someone who had already worked in the WH for 8 years, was a U.S. Senator and a Secretary of State.   Where could we have found such a wunderkind? 


 

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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An experienced negotiator (or any intelligent person) would have done just what Pelosi did when Trump made his demand. Maybe Trump could find some 5 year olds to teach him how to negotiate since they can do a much better job than has shown.


Fine - we have one experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of not funding physical barriers as part of the budget and another experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of physical barriers must be part of the budget.

 

Which is at fault? Which needs the 5 year old for advice?


Wrong, there is no experienced negotiator (or intelligent person) negotiating for a wall. 

 


Kind of makes you think we should have hired an experienced person for that job. Someone who had already worked in the WH for 8 years, was a U.S. Senator and a Secretary of State.   Where could we have found such a wunderkind? 

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@rk9152 wrote:

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

 


@LeeV999430 wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

December: Trump: I will PROUDLY shut down the government over my border wall

 

Jan. 4, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump threatened on Friday to keep the federal government partly closed for “months or even years” if he did not get $5.6 billion for his wall at the southern border,


Can you discuss the issue, which is the border? 

 

 


Okay, let's discuss "the border". 

 

First a little history. When Mexico seceded from Spain in 1821, it's territory included Texas, California and a bunch of New Mexico and Arizona.

In 1836, a bunch of white slave owners in Texas declared independence from Mexico. After the War with Mexico in 1848, America annexed the lands north of the Rio Grand and established the border pretty much as it is today.

 

Since 1848, people and goods have flowed easily across that border to the great benefit of both countries, but in 2002, jrbush, needing to divert attention from his disastrous diversion of our intelligence services to finding an excuse to invade Iraq and grab the oil thereby totally missing the 9/11 terrorists, tried to pretend he was making us safer by closing the border with Mexico.

 

About 3.5 million workers who HAD been migrating back and forth to "follow the harvest" decided to stay on our side and just send their paychecks home because they could not count on jr letting them get to their jobs next season.When they came here, they were NOT considered "illegal", same as the next group.

 

Another 6 million came into the country by air and simply overstayed their Visas and with all the Republican cuts to Government workers, there were never enough INS agents to find them.

 

And a few hundred thousand came across the Mexican border for jobs they read about in local (Mexican) newspapers, placed there by the Americans who still employ them.

 

So that's where the 11 million undocumented workers came from - about FIVE PERCENT actually crossed the border from Mexico ILLEGALLY, and over the last couple years, the number coming north has been nearly equaled by the ones going back south.

 

The only significant INCREASE in cross-border migration is those from CENTRAL America who are fleeing for their lives and hoping to find asylum in America.

 

Democrats already agreed to the physical barriers that now cover 900 miles nearly half the length of the border. What is there already provides all the security that can be obtained from physical barriers.

 

What lil donny droopdrawers demands is 230 ADDITIONAL miles OUT IN THE DESERT, costing $5billion EACH YEAR.

 

There are no drugs using that route - what crosses the border does so in big trucks, which, thanks to Republicans constantly slashing Government jobs, we do not have enough inspectors to check.

 

There are no terrorists using that route - why would they when their Saudi sponsors can easily get them first class tickets to any airport they desire?

 

All that are coming thru the desert are poor brown people donny's base are terrified of. Why? Because they've been told by donny, elected GOPers, Fox and the rest of the Republican Propaganda Ministry those people will find ways to VOTE and elect DEMOCRATS, right after they flood our welfare systems, hospitals and schools with their disease ridden children.


So GOPers, lets here some SPECIFICS on how the ADDITIONAL 230 miles of barriers lil donny demands before releasing his 2 million hostages can possibly justify holding those hostages in the first place?


Are you sure that all 60 of the signatures of the Texas Declaration of Independence were slave owners?? If not, why do you incorporate race into everything.


One of the big reasons Texas wanted to separate from Mexico was because slavery was illegal in Mexico.


That wasn't the question for scout.


So?

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@rk9152 wrote:

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An experienced negotiator (or any intelligent person) would have done just what Pelosi did when Trump made his demand. Maybe Trump could find some 5 year olds to teach him how to negotiate since they can do a much better job than has shown.


Fine - we have one experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of not funding physical barriers as part of the budget and another experienced negotiator (and intelligent person) totally locked into a position of physical barriers must be part of the budget.

 

Which is at fault? Which needs the 5 year old for advice?


Wrong, there is no experienced negotiator (or intelligent person) negotiating for a wall. 

 

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Time to get over the "sticks and stones" game...grow up...show that "we the people" run the country not a bunch of bureaucracy, no? If they can't handle the jobs they are being paid to do then let the payer (people funding it all) handle the household budget???  Perhaps it is time to discuss the whole idea of a non-government oversight committees on the whole darn policy making????

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