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There is no reason to believe Taliban fighters would require any bounty to attack an illegitimate occupying force.

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And don't forget that their support was based on information given to them (by a Republican administration) that later proved bogus!

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These members of Congress had the same information as Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton but they did NOT join Biden and Hillary and some of the other Democratic hawks.

 

Which Democrats voted against the Iraq War?

 

In the House of Representatives:


126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Bernie Sanders) voted against the Iraq War.


In the Senate:


26 Democrats voted against the Iraq War.


https://medium.com/@JonathanCohn/iraq-war-15-who-voted-for-it-who-didnt-and-where-are-they-now-595d1...

 

 

 


This thread is not about any wars the US has gotten into. It is about a Nation (Russia) paying money to people and org. to kill American Service Members carrying out military missions ordered by the Commander in Chief, and the Commander in Chief knowing it is happening and doing nothing about it but allowing the Americans to keep being killed.

What we see here is the Trump supporters trying to divert the subject to try and cover for Trump. Normally that is the far right, but now it is the far left.

How can ant true American support or defend Trump in any way shape or form.

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Trump's Russian Buddies Pay Militants To Kill U.S. Soldiers

 

 

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@gordyfl wrote:

And don't forget that their support was based on information given to them (by a Republican administration) that later proved bogus!

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These members of Congress had the same information as Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton but they did NOT join Biden and Hillary and some of the other Democratic hawks.

 

Which Democrats voted against the Iraq War?

 

In the House of Representatives:


126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Bernie Sanders) voted against the Iraq War.


In the Senate:


26 Democrats voted against the Iraq War.

 

 

 


.... Does absolutely nothing to change the fact that the House and Senate voted on Bogus information that was given to them by a Republican controlled administration.

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And don't forget that their support was based on information given to them (by a Republican administration) that later proved bogus!

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These members of Congress had the same information as Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton but they did NOT join Biden and Hillary and some of the other Democratic hawks.

 

Which Democrats voted against the Iraq War?

 

In the House of Representatives:


126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Bernie Sanders) voted against the Iraq War.


In the Senate:


26 Democrats voted against the Iraq War.


https://medium.com/@JonathanCohn/iraq-war-15-who-voted-for-it-who-didnt-and-where-are-they-now-595d1...

 

 

 

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@gordyfl wrote:

You're attempting to blame President Obama for not fixing another Republican cluster disaster!

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Yes a disaster.

 

But don't forget Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and other Democrats voted for and supported the Iraq War.

And don't forget that their support was based on information given to them (by a Republican administration) that later proved bogus!

 

I'm not 'attempting' to blame Obama. He had 8 years to get us out of Iraq and / or Afghanistan. Instead...

And with that statement, you just blamed President Obama for not moving fast enough to correct Republican disasters!

 

he dragged us into the War in Libya...and Syria.

President Obama went after terrorists that wanted to attack America.

 

Libya’s war:


Oil-rich Libya has been in chaos since the Arab spring movement and Nato bombing campaign that toppled Gaddafi in 2011. Attempts to build a democratic state after Gaddafi fell disintegrated into a new civil war. (Thank you President Obama and Sec'y of State Hillary Clinton who helped orchestrate the bombing campaign).

Actually, Reagan (another Republican) was the first to bomb Libya!

 

Notice how France, Germany and China managed to stay out of the Iraq War, and Germany and China stayed away from the war in Libya. Both China and Germany maintained good economies while the U.S. kept borrowing money to pay for our wars.

A great lecture to Republicans!

 

The two warmongering parties put it all on our credit card.

No .... It was just Republicans who started all the wars you mention!

 

$26.3 Trillion and counting....

Money to the war industry Republicans love to support!

 

 

 


 

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You're attempting to blame President Obama for not fixing another Republican cluster disaster!

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Yes a disaster.

 

But don't forget Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and other Democrats voted for and supported the Iraq War.

 

I'm not 'attempting' to blame Obama. He had 8 years to get us out of Iraq and / or Afghanistan. Instead...

 

he dragged us into the War in Libya...and Syria.

 

Libya’s war:


Oil-rich Libya has been in chaos since the Arab spring movement and Nato bombing campaign that toppled Gaddafi in 2011. Attempts to build a democratic state after Gaddafi fell disintegrated into a new civil war. (Thank you President Obama and Sec'y of State Hillary Clinton who helped orchestrate the bombing campaign).

 

Notice how France, Germany and China managed to stay out of the Iraq War, and Germany and China stayed away from the war in Libya. Both China and Germany maintained good economies while the U.S. kept borrowing money to pay for our wars.

 

The two warmongering parties put it all on our credit card.

 

$26.3 Trillion and counting....

 

https://usdebtclock.org/

 

Bring'em home....

 

 

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Trump lies 90% of the time so I will take the word of our Intel people on supplying the information to him just like they do every other bit of intel information they get, and the Russian desk head quitting. Once again we see Trump caught and try and lie his way out.

The big difference here is the defense of Trump. It is not by the usual far right, but the far left. The approach is the usual. Try and change the subject from a Nation Russia who is not involved in AFG paying a group to kill American Service people carrying out an assigned US mission to whether the mission should have been assigned. 

I have said for a long time now the far right, and far left are one in the same, and would destroy the USA for their own needs at the expense of most Americans. Right now there are more far right than far left so they are more active. All should never forget the far right and far left are the same, and let me say again Bennie was not far left but sadly had far left support just as Trump has far right support.

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Unlike Trump supporters, I believe U.S. Intelligence Agencies over Russians, the Taliban and especially .... the White House Press Secretary!!!

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You mean the "anonymous" sources.

No .... I mean "U.S. Intelligence Agencies"  .... as identified in the very next paragraph!


The unnamed officials cited by the New York Times said US intelligence agencies had concluded months ago that a unit of Russia's GRU military intelligence agency had sought to destabilise its adversaries by covertly offering bounties for successful attacks on coalition forces.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, were believed to have collected some money, the newspaper said.

 

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“the CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence," McEnany said.

Which was obviously a lie as they all knew about it and decided to do nothing!


If McEnany was lying,

She obviously was .... lying is a job requirement in Trump's  administration!

 

the CIA Director (who has a name), the NSA Advisor and the Chief of Staff can deny her assertians.

Not if they want to keep their jobs!


 

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@gordyfl wrote:

Good questions for Republicans as it was the Bush Republican administration that sent troops to both Afghanistan and Iraq!

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We've been dropping bombs in Afghanistan for 7 years under Bush. 3 1/2 years under Trump. And 8 years under Obama.

 


Evading the fact that it was a Republican administration that got us involved in Afghanistan in the first place .... handing off the resulting nightmare to President Obama!

 

You're attempting to blame President Obama for not fixing another Republican cluster disaster!

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