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Message 21 of 38

@gordyfl wrote:

You're attempting to blame President Obama for not fixing another Republican cluster disaster!

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Yes a disaster.

 

But don't forget Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and other Democrats voted for and supported the Iraq War.

And don't forget that their support was based on information given to them (by a Republican administration) that later proved bogus!

 

I'm not 'attempting' to blame Obama. He had 8 years to get us out of Iraq and / or Afghanistan. Instead...

And with that statement, you just blamed President Obama for not moving fast enough to correct Republican disasters!

 

he dragged us into the War in Libya...and Syria.

President Obama went after terrorists that wanted to attack America.

 

Libya’s war:


Oil-rich Libya has been in chaos since the Arab spring movement and Nato bombing campaign that toppled Gaddafi in 2011. Attempts to build a democratic state after Gaddafi fell disintegrated into a new civil war. (Thank you President Obama and Sec'y of State Hillary Clinton who helped orchestrate the bombing campaign).

Actually, Reagan (another Republican) was the first to bomb Libya!

 

Notice how France, Germany and China managed to stay out of the Iraq War, and Germany and China stayed away from the war in Libya. Both China and Germany maintained good economies while the U.S. kept borrowing money to pay for our wars.

A great lecture to Republicans!

 

The two warmongering parties put it all on our credit card.

No .... It was just Republicans who started all the wars you mention!

 

$26.3 Trillion and counting....

Money to the war industry Republicans love to support!

 

 

 


 

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Message 22 of 38

You're attempting to blame President Obama for not fixing another Republican cluster disaster!

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Yes a disaster.

 

But don't forget Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and other Democrats voted for and supported the Iraq War.

 

I'm not 'attempting' to blame Obama. He had 8 years to get us out of Iraq and / or Afghanistan. Instead...

 

he dragged us into the War in Libya...and Syria.

 

Libya’s war:


Oil-rich Libya has been in chaos since the Arab spring movement and Nato bombing campaign that toppled Gaddafi in 2011. Attempts to build a democratic state after Gaddafi fell disintegrated into a new civil war. (Thank you President Obama and Sec'y of State Hillary Clinton who helped orchestrate the bombing campaign).

 

Notice how France, Germany and China managed to stay out of the Iraq War, and Germany and China stayed away from the war in Libya. Both China and Germany maintained good economies while the U.S. kept borrowing money to pay for our wars.

 

The two warmongering parties put it all on our credit card.

 

$26.3 Trillion and counting....

 

https://usdebtclock.org/

 

Bring'em home....

 

 

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Message 23 of 38

Trump lies 90% of the time so I will take the word of our Intel people on supplying the information to him just like they do every other bit of intel information they get, and the Russian desk head quitting. Once again we see Trump caught and try and lie his way out.

The big difference here is the defense of Trump. It is not by the usual far right, but the far left. The approach is the usual. Try and change the subject from a Nation Russia who is not involved in AFG paying a group to kill American Service people carrying out an assigned US mission to whether the mission should have been assigned. 

I have said for a long time now the far right, and far left are one in the same, and would destroy the USA for their own needs at the expense of most Americans. Right now there are more far right than far left so they are more active. All should never forget the far right and far left are the same, and let me say again Bennie was not far left but sadly had far left support just as Trump has far right support.

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Message 24 of 38

@gordyfl wrote:

Unlike Trump supporters, I believe U.S. Intelligence Agencies over Russians, the Taliban and especially .... the White House Press Secretary!!!

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You mean the "anonymous" sources.

No .... I mean "U.S. Intelligence Agencies"  .... as identified in the very next paragraph!


The unnamed officials cited by the New York Times said US intelligence agencies had concluded months ago that a unit of Russia's GRU military intelligence agency had sought to destabilise its adversaries by covertly offering bounties for successful attacks on coalition forces.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, were believed to have collected some money, the newspaper said.

 

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“the CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence," McEnany said.

Which was obviously a lie as they all knew about it and decided to do nothing!


If McEnany was lying,

She obviously was .... lying is a job requirement in Trump's  administration!

 

the CIA Director (who has a name), the NSA Advisor and the Chief of Staff can deny her assertians.

Not if they want to keep their jobs!


 

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Message 25 of 38

@gordyfl wrote:

Good questions for Republicans as it was the Bush Republican administration that sent troops to both Afghanistan and Iraq!

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We've been dropping bombs in Afghanistan for 7 years under Bush. 3 1/2 years under Trump. And 8 years under Obama.

 


Evading the fact that it was a Republican administration that got us involved in Afghanistan in the first place .... handing off the resulting nightmare to President Obama!

 

You're attempting to blame President Obama for not fixing another Republican cluster disaster!

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Unlike Trump supporters, I believe U.S. Intelligence Agencies over Russians, the Taliban and especially .... the White House Press Secretary!!!

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You mean the "anonymous" sources.


The unnamed officials cited by the New York Times said US intelligence agencies had concluded months ago that a unit of Russia's GRU military intelligence agency had sought to destabilise its adversaries by covertly offering bounties for successful attacks on coalition forces.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, were believed to have collected some money, the newspaper said.

 

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“the CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence," McEnany said.


If McEnany was lying, the CIA Director (who has a name), the NSA Advisor and the Chief of Staff can deny her assertians.

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Message 27 of 38

williamb: And trump was briefed by our Intelligence agencies how many months ago? And trump knew!

 

 

He was briefed in March. His response was to look the other way while pulling troops from Germany and trying to get Putin back in the G-7. He's a traitor, plain and simple.

 

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Message 28 of 38

@gordyfl wrote:

Trump has done nothing since getting this report so Trump by his actions so far shows he is not bothered by our people being killed for money from a 3rd party not involved now in AFG...

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Notice how we have conflicting stories here.

 

Forbes: "Citing U.S. officials briefed on the intelligence, the Times reports that Russia last year offered and paid money to Taliban militants for killing coalition forces in Afghanistan, noting that 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in Afghanistan in 2019, though it's not clear which were linked to the bounties.

 

The Guardian: "It is not clear if bounties were ever paid out for successfully killing American soldiers. The White House denied that either Trump or the vice-president, Mike Pence, were briefed on such a matter."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/27/russia-offered-bounties-afghanistan-militants-killin...

 

USA Today: The Taliban have denied the report.

 

“The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny,” White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said in a statement.

 

While the White House does not routinely comment on intelligence or internal deliberations, “the CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence," McEnany said.

 

McEnany said her statement “does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of the New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter.”

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/27/afghanistan-white-house-denies-trump-briefed...

 

BBC: "Afghanistan war: Russia denies paying militants to kill US troops".

 

In a series of Twitter posts, the Russian embassy in the US accused the paper of promoting fake news:

 

"Stop producing fakenews that provoke life threats, @nytimes."

 

"Baseless and anonymous accusations published by @nytimes of Moscow as mastermind behind killing of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan have already led to direct threats to the life of employees of the Russian Embassies in Washington D.C. and London."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53204747

 

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The unnamed officials cited by the New York Times said US intelligence agencies had concluded months ago that a unit of Russia's GRU military intelligence agency had sought to destabilise its adversaries by covertly offering bounties for successful attacks on coalition forces.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, were believed to have collected some money, the newspaper said.

 

 

"Bring the Troops Home".

 


Unlike Trump supporters, I believe U.S. Intelligence Agencies over Russians, the Taliban and especially .... the White House Press Secretary!!!

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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Message 29 of 38

Good questions for Republicans as it was the Bush Republican administration that sent troops to both Afghanistan and Iraq!

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We've been dropping bombs in Afghanistan for 7 years under Bush. 3 1/2 years under Trump. And 8 years under Obama.

 

 

"Bring our Troops Home"

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Message 30 of 38

Trump has done nothing since getting this report so Trump by his actions so far shows he is not bothered by our people being killed for money from a 3rd party not involved now in AFG...

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Notice how we have conflicting stories here.

 

Forbes: "Citing U.S. officials briefed on the intelligence, the Times reports that Russia last year offered and paid money to Taliban militants for killing coalition forces in Afghanistan, noting that 20 U.S. soldiers were killed in Afghanistan in 2019, though it's not clear which were linked to the bounties.

 

The Guardian: "It is not clear if bounties were ever paid out for successfully killing American soldiers. The White House denied that either Trump or the vice-president, Mike Pence, were briefed on such a matter."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/27/russia-offered-bounties-afghanistan-militants-killin...

 

USA Today: The Taliban have denied the report.

 

“The United States receives thousands of intelligence reports a day, and they are subject to strict scrutiny,” White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said in a statement.

 

While the White House does not routinely comment on intelligence or internal deliberations, “the CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence," McEnany said.

 

McEnany said her statement “does not speak to the merit of the alleged intelligence but to the inaccuracy of the New York Times story erroneously suggesting that President Trump was briefed on this matter.”

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/27/afghanistan-white-house-denies-trump-briefed...

 

BBC: "Afghanistan war: Russia denies paying militants to kill US troops".

 

In a series of Twitter posts, the Russian embassy in the US accused the paper of promoting fake news:

 

"Stop producing fakenews that provoke life threats, @nytimes."

 

"Baseless and anonymous accusations published by @nytimes of Moscow as mastermind behind killing of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan have already led to direct threats to the life of employees of the Russian Embassies in Washington D.C. and London."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53204747

 

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The unnamed officials cited by the New York Times said US intelligence agencies had concluded months ago that a unit of Russia's GRU military intelligence agency had sought to destabilise its adversaries by covertly offering bounties for successful attacks on coalition forces.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, were believed to have collected some money, the newspaper said.

 

 

"Bring the Troops Home".

 

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