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@rk9152 wrote:

For quite a while the tic-tockers obsessed over "Russian collusion". When that collapsed, they moved on to "obstruction". And now it is "cover-up".

 

What's next for those Agnew called the nattering nabobs of negativism?


I believe the Mueller report said that there was insufficient evidence to prove collusion in a court of law. Under that criteria, Trump is as innocent as O.J. Simpson was. Seems a fair analogy.  

 

Then Mueller said there were ten situations of Trump obstructing justice but the DOJ rules did not allow him to indict a sitting president. That it was the job of Congress. So, now Congress is investigating as required by the Constitution. 

 

Now Trump is refusing to do his class project until everybody stops picking on him.  

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For quite a while the tic-tockers obsessed over "Russian collusion". When that collapsed, they moved on to "obstruction". And now it is "cover-up".

 

What's next for those Agnew called the nattering nabobs of negativism?

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@williamb39198 wrote:

Classic projectionism!

trump commits the crime, then convinces his supporters to blame Pelosi!

Just like a criminal who blames the court for not overlooking his criminal activities, and states the court is the real criminal...or the Press, or the Intelligence Agencies, or the Dems...

anyone that opposes him for reason of his criminal activity. 

Just another coverup for trump, and his fear of the truth.  


Trump needs his enemies, he needs his victimhood and he needs his altered reality, created entirely from his lifetime of lies, to be the Main Attraction under the big tent at all times.  All of this effort endlessly escaping the truth of who he is.  His monumental fears of his unmasking create his own demise and that cannot happen soon enough.

 

“So full of artless jealousy is guilt, It spills itself in fearing to be spilt.”

William Shakespeare, Hamlet

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

Too FUNNY!

 

Yeah, Trump is engaged in a cover up of a crime that was never committed!  

 

Only in the minds of Dimms(sic) obsessed with hatred and outrage that they lost an election.

 

Sour grapes!  

 

So very FUNNY!

 

 


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Classic projectionism!

trump commits the crime, then convinces his supporters to blame Pelosi!

Just like a criminal who blames the court for not overlooking his criminal activities, and states the court is the real criminal...or the Press, or the Intelligence Agencies, or the Dems...

anyone that opposes him for reason of his criminal activity. 

Just another coverup for trump, and his fear of the truth.  

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@jimc91 wrote:

The Worst Cover-Up of All Time

 

Pelosi, not the president, is 'obstructing' an impeachment inquiry in the literal sense of not letting one go forward.

 

President Donald Trump may be guilty of many things, but a cover-up in the Mueller probe isn’t one of them.

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, attempting to appease forces in the Democratic party eager for impeachment, is accusing him of one, with all the familiar Watergate connotations.

 

The charge is strange, not to say incomprehensible, in light of the fact that Congress is in possession of a 448-page report produced by the Trump Department of Justice cataloguing the alleged obstruction that Congress now wants to investigate. The report is so exhaustive that many members of Congress haven’t had the time to read it.

 

If this is a White House cover-up, it’s too late. It’s a cover-up of an alleged crime that has already been extensively exposed, not by whistleblowers, not by Jerry Nadler, not by hostile journalists, but by a DOJ prosecutor who worked under the supervision of Trump’s handpicked deputy attorney general.

 

Pelosi has rehearsed the cliche, “As they say, the cover-up is frequently worse than the crime.” Or in this case, a substitute for the crime.


Pelosi Accuses Trump of a Cover Up
 

Mueller found no Russia collusion or coordination and didn’t even accuse the president of obstruction, instead bizarrely pronouncing him “not exonerated.”

 

Pelosi hasn’t deemed the alleged obstruction detailed in the Mueller report worthy of impeachment but now insists that Trump’s resistance to congressional probes is itself obstruction and “could be impeachable.”

 

This is an alleged process crime on top of an alleged process crime, all stemming from an investigation that Trump had the power to stop but never did (even as he openly hated it and came up with various schemes, never effected, to crimp it).

 

The Mueller report is chock-full of direct accounts of private conversations with the president, which would ordinarily be considered the most sensitive White House communications most likely to trigger a claim of executive privilege. The White House never tried to block any of the testimony. Mueller often writes in such compelling novelistic detail exactly because everyone talked. 

 

The only exception was the president himself, who only took written questions about the Russian portion of the probe (remember that?). But Mueller stipulates in the report that he didn’t try to subpoena the president, in part because he had gotten the relevant information from everyone else.

 

After going through this investigation for two years, run by a prosecutor with considerable resources and powers, and a well-demonstrated willingness to nail anyone not telling the truth, the White House is balking at repeating the experience with Congress.

 

It has zero political interest in abetting high-profile hearings with former White House officials such as Don McGahn, and legitimate privilege claims to make over the president’s communications with his advisers and over the vast amount of unreviewed underlying material of the Mueller report.

This is a high-intensity version of the typical jousting between the two branches. Some of it will surely be negotiated out, and some of it will be decided by the courts.

 

Congress obviously has its own legitimate claims here, although the fact-finding authorized by Pelosi is largely a charade to avoid grasping the nettle of impeachment.

The Democrats could slap together a couple of hearings with law professors and former prosecutors and impeach Trump tomorrow if they wanted to. 

 

This is what makes the current situation so crazy. Trump, let alone Attorney General William Barr or McGahn, isn’t the one stopping Congress from pursuing impeachment. They have no control over it whatsoever. Impeachment is entirely a matter for the House, which is entirely under the control of Pelosi.

 

 

She, not the president, is “obstructing” an impeachment inquiry in the literal sense of not letting one go forward, despite many of her members wanting one and despite the Trump DOJ handing her a potential road map in the form of the 448-page report.

 

If this is a cover-up, it is the worst executed cover-up of all time.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/nancy-pelosi-accusation-trump-cover-up-incomprehensible/


Well said Jim but, I don't agree with anything that you have stated.

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The Worst Cover-Up of All Time

 

Pelosi, not the president, is 'obstructing' an impeachment inquiry in the literal sense of not letting one go forward.

 

President Donald Trump may be guilty of many things, but a cover-up in the Mueller probe isn’t one of them.

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, attempting to appease forces in the Democratic party eager for impeachment, is accusing him of one, with all the familiar Watergate connotations.

 

The charge is strange, not to say incomprehensible, in light of the fact that Congress is in possession of a 448-page report produced by the Trump Department of Justice cataloguing the alleged obstruction that Congress now wants to investigate. The report is so exhaustive that many members of Congress haven’t had the time to read it.

 

If this is a White House cover-up, it’s too late. It’s a cover-up of an alleged crime that has already been extensively exposed, not by whistleblowers, not by Jerry Nadler, not by hostile journalists, but by a DOJ prosecutor who worked under the supervision of Trump’s handpicked deputy attorney general.

 

Pelosi has rehearsed the cliche, “As they say, the cover-up is frequently worse than the crime.” Or in this case, a substitute for the crime.


Pelosi Accuses Trump of a Cover Up
 

Mueller found no Russia collusion or coordination and didn’t even accuse the president of obstruction, instead bizarrely pronouncing him “not exonerated.”

 

Pelosi hasn’t deemed the alleged obstruction detailed in the Mueller report worthy of impeachment but now insists that Trump’s resistance to congressional probes is itself obstruction and “could be impeachable.”

 

This is an alleged process crime on top of an alleged process crime, all stemming from an investigation that Trump had the power to stop but never did (even as he openly hated it and came up with various schemes, never effected, to crimp it).

 

The Mueller report is chock-full of direct accounts of private conversations with the president, which would ordinarily be considered the most sensitive White House communications most likely to trigger a claim of executive privilege. The White House never tried to block any of the testimony. Mueller often writes in such compelling novelistic detail exactly because everyone talked. 

 

The only exception was the president himself, who only took written questions about the Russian portion of the probe (remember that?). But Mueller stipulates in the report that he didn’t try to subpoena the president, in part because he had gotten the relevant information from everyone else.

 

After going through this investigation for two years, run by a prosecutor with considerable resources and powers, and a well-demonstrated willingness to nail anyone not telling the truth, the White House is balking at repeating the experience with Congress.

 

It has zero political interest in abetting high-profile hearings with former White House officials such as Don McGahn, and legitimate privilege claims to make over the president’s communications with his advisers and over the vast amount of unreviewed underlying material of the Mueller report.

This is a high-intensity version of the typical jousting between the two branches. Some of it will surely be negotiated out, and some of it will be decided by the courts.

 

Congress obviously has its own legitimate claims here, although the fact-finding authorized by Pelosi is largely a charade to avoid grasping the nettle of impeachment.

The Democrats could slap together a couple of hearings with law professors and former prosecutors and impeach Trump tomorrow if they wanted to. 

 

This is what makes the current situation so crazy. Trump, let alone Attorney General William Barr or McGahn, isn’t the one stopping Congress from pursuing impeachment. They have no control over it whatsoever. Impeachment is entirely a matter for the House, which is entirely under the control of Pelosi.

 

 

She, not the president, is “obstructing” an impeachment inquiry in the literal sense of not letting one go forward, despite many of her members wanting one and despite the Trump DOJ handing her a potential road map in the form of the 448-page report.

 

If this is a cover-up, it is the worst executed cover-up of all time.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/nancy-pelosi-accusation-trump-cover-up-incomprehensible/

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After reading some of the posts after my own. Can't you see as to why I say that Trump will not go gently into the night?

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uh, unindicted co conspirator for hush money payments Jim, oh and about 1,000 former Prosecutors say crimes were committed by Trump, including obstruction of justice which he demonstrates daily. OOOOPS!!!! He IS a criminal, so lock him up!!!
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Too FUNNY!

 

Yeah, Trump is engaged in a cover up of a crime that was never committed!  

 

Only in the minds of dimms obsessed with hatred and outrage that they lost an election.

 

Sour grapes!  

 

So very FUNNY!

 

 

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