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A weak argument?  supporting a socialist for President  is a weak argument, ?I have never supported a socialist in my life. no matter what they have said. and now you are more to the right than Trump?  and that is also a weak argument?  what happened to you? it must have been very bad. for you to change from a socialist to an autocratic and incapable President.


Of course not since you support Republicans.  If you voted or supported a Democrat they you have supported a form of socialism.  What about your background here?  You were supporting Trump in the primaries because you claimed if he was nominated it would mean Hillary would win.

 

Then you supported Hillary in the General Elections.  Now you're complaining about Trump after he was elected.  One could ask about what happened to you.  Besides, I don't have to answer to you or anyone about who I support or don't support.

 

And what does who I support/supported have to do with this topic?

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That’s a little confusing. Republicans are in control of all branches of government. Occasionally there will be a repub speak out against trump, but they end up supporting him and voting for what he wants. Looks like repubs are causing most of the damage. 

Whether they are termed trump followers or not. 

 

With or against?

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Scout, why can't I make you understand that it is not the Republicans that are doing what you are stating.
Those are not Republicans they are Trump followers, they are demonstrating that they have no stones. they are an embarrassment to the Republican Party. please do not refer to them by any other name than Trump Followers. Because that is what they are.

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No police force on the planet takes all non-violent offenders into custody for committing a misdemeanor, and neither do the minions of Der Trumper.

 

Der Trumper ONLY insists we take into custody poor non-white people seeking asylum in the United States to escape war or criminal threats on their lives who enter the country without permission. He also insists his border gurads tell all those arriving and requesting asylum BEFORE entering that we're too busy now, and they should go away.

 

He doesn't even bother to try and prosecute MS-13 members under RICO statutes because that would be difficult, and Der Trumper has spent a lifetime finding the easy way out (for him).

 

Republicans claim its necessary to enforce the law, but the reality is they only enforce laws that produce pain and suffering on those their base dispises - non-white poor people. You see it in spades at the border, but also in all the black families who no longer have one of the parents because of the stop and frisk laws and all of the non-whites who have served their time but cannot get a job or vote because of the very selective application of our hideous drug laws.

 

So if Republicans insist on enforcing the law, why are they not demanding the arrest of those who employ the illegal immigrants, thus making their stay in America possible? Could it be because those criminals are white and rich?

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Yes, the Vietnamese were given refugee status if they were among the initial arrivals.  My brother-in-law managed to get to Hong Kong but was refused refugee status by the UN.  He was returned to Vietnam.  He went into business, showing he wouldn't be persecuted, and ended up with a successful business.

 

But no one suggested that being detained in Hong Kong was emulating the Holocaust.

Just in case you don't know this. the majority of Cubans that came into the US did not claim asylum they actually avail themselves to a policy of that time called Indefinite Departure. which allow any of us to return to Cuba whenever we wanted to.
The reason being was that most of us never expected to stay in the Us and that Fidel Castro would be gone. Unfortunately we were mistaken. so we became first legal immigrants and then American citizens.

Of course no one  at that time compare detention in Hong Kong to the Holocaust there was no reason to do so.


 

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how about you supporting in the general elections a socialist  Bernie Sanders.?


That was in the Democratic Primaries for the party's candidate.  The General Elections was for electing a President.  And when Hillary was nominated, it was the end of my support.  Bringing up Bernie is a weak argument. 


A weak argument?  supporting a socialist for President  is a weak argument, ?I have never supported a socialist in my life. no matter what they have said. and now you are more to the right than Trump?  and that is also a weak argument?  what happened to you? it must have been very bad. for you to change from a socialist to an autocratic and incapable President.

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how about you supporting in the general elections a socialist  Bernie Sanders.?


That was in the Democratic Primaries for the party's candidate.  The General Elections was for electing a President.  And when Hillary was nominated, it was the end of my support.  Bringing up Bernie is a weak argument. 

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Of course not, Cubans were guaranteed entry into this country.  All they had to do was identify themselves as Cubans and they were automatically granted asylum.  Don't you think it's time uit using that analogy?I imagine that you are also including the Viet Nam people in that statement also.


Yes, the Vietnamese were given refugee status if they were among the initial arrivals.  My brother-in-law managed to get to Hong Kong but was refused refugee status by the UN.  He was returned to Vietnam.  He went into business, showing he wouldn't be persecuted, and ended up with a successful business.

 

But no one suggested that being detained in Hong Kong was emulating the Holocaust.

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You see Scout?  when I say to you, to stop attacking Republicans and really take a good look at the Trump followers instead?


I recall you were supporting Trump in the presidential elections also....And additonally continuing to post that you are a registered Republican.


Really Tx,  !!!!!! when are you going to quit with that one? Every one here knows the circumstances that I voted for Trump in the primaries.  so don't play ignorant now. and how about you supporting in the general elections a socialist  Bernie Sanders.?portray being a Republican, no darling I am still a Republican.

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More of attempting to compare this with Hitler, concentration camps, the Holocaust, and everything but the kitchen sink?  A pretty weak argument when one has to go way off topic to support their argument.  I've noticed the majority is doing that. Wrong Tx, I am not comparing Hittler I am comparing the suffering of those mothers and children during that era. not to have at least some compassion.

 

 


 


There is no comparison as what you are comparing this to was racially motivated and something imposed on that country's on people.  And on others who were detained in their home country and taken by force to the concentration camps.

 

In this case, it is the mothers who are bringing their children into the suffering.  They know before hand what to expect by attempting to enter our country illegally.  They are responsible.

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