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K397840K's comments couldn't be further from the truth, they echo Fox Propaganda. Trump is doing exactly what the Russians want, he's exposing U.S. secret techniques and sources. As I stated earlier in this thread, real Americans stand behind our intelligence agencies.

 

However, Trump Cult members idolize and worship their hero in the White House so much, they are willing to endanger our intelligence sources and techniques in an attempt to protect Comrade Trump.

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Finally declassification will expose the charade the perps have been hiding to obstruct a presidential election.  Can't believe you ppl here support the conspiracy to unseat a president who won fair and square.  You still can't get over that you lost the election. Do you go along with Strok, Brennan, Comey, Ohr, Page etc who admitted their guilt?  Off with their heads!!  

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So ..... are national security officials trying to slow down trump's ignorant order ?  Thank goodness they have good sense.  Now I suppose they will be called part of the fictitious "Deep State".

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/are-intel-officials-trying-slow-trump-order-decla...


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Trump orders feds to declassify key FISA documents, text messages in FBI Russia probe

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If you are a Trump Cult member, you only care about protecting your hero and idol in the White House. 

 

If you are a real American, you care about the process and protecting intelligence sources and techniques. Declassfying FISA documents could possibly do serious damage to America.

 

Which category do you fit into?

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Trump’s latest abuse of power is likely to blow up in his face

 

President Trump and his Republican allies in Congress are running a systematic campaign of harassment and disruption directed at legitimate law enforcement activity being conducted on behalf of the American people — with the active goal of protecting Trump and his cronies from accountability and denying the public the full truth about a hostile foreign power’s effort to corrupt our democracy.

 

The latest example of this, like the others that preceded it, is being justified with the laughably disingenuous falsehood that the goal is “transparency.” And this one, like the others that preceded it, will likely blow up in Trump’s face in spectacular fashion.

 

Trump has ordered the Justice Department to release numerous classified documents related to the Russia investigation. A White House statement claims this is in the interests of “transparency.” One of Trump’s most dutiful servants in Congress, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, insists this release will “reveal to the American people some of the systemic corruption and bias” at “the highest levels of the DOJ and FBI.”

 

In reality, this is an effort at obfuscation, concealment, deception, and the weaponizing of the oversight process for “partisan political ends.” If recent precedent is any guide, the release itself will broadly confirm this — even though Trump and his allies will lie uncontrollably to the contrary.

 

Trump is seeking three main things. The first: additional portions of the FISA court applications to surveil former Trump adviser Carter Page. The pro-Trump mythology holds that the Dem-funded dossier created by British spy Christopher Steele was the basis for the original decision to wiretap Page, thus forming the main genesis of the whole investigation and rendering special counsel Robert S. Mueller’s probe illegitimate. In fact, independent reporting has established that the FBI probe launched amid revelations about another former Trump adviser who learned about Russian dirt collected on Hillary Clinton.

 

We’ve already been down this road. When the FISA applications for Page surveillance were released in redacted form a few months ago, it confirmed what Democrats had been saying, and debunked what Trump allies had claimed. It showed that the FBI had, in fact, disclosed the political motives behind the Steele dossier and had given the FISA judges the info they needed to evaluate Steele’s credibility. It also showed that judges had renewed the application numerous times, meaning the wiretaps were bearing investigative fruit.

 

Trump now has demanded the selective release of additional portions of the applications, and we don’t know what they’ll say. But one distinct possibilityis that they will reveal more information generated by the probe that led to the authorizations of these wiretaps, thus underscoring the probe’s legitimacy.

 

It’s all about Trump’s self-interest

 

Beyond this, the release is a remarkably brazen abuse of power. As national security expert David Kris notes, Trump is overruling national security professionals who wanted to keep certain portions secret to protect sources and methods — not for purposes of “transparency” in the “national interest,” but because he believes it will serve his own “self interest,” as a “subject” of this investigation.

 

Trump has also ordered the release of unredacted texts between FBI agent Peter Strzok and lawyer Lisa Page, among others, another obsession of pro-Trump mythologists. We can guess where this might end up. Recently GOP Rep. Mark Meadows, another Trump handmaiden, claimed their texts supposedly revealed a culture of leaking at the FBI. Democrats cried foul, explaining how Meadows had ripped the texts out of context to create that false impression.

 

more at:  Trump’s latest abuse of power is likely to blow up in his face


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President Trump on Monday ordered the declassification of several key documents related to the FBI investigation of Russian actions during the 2016 presidential election, including 21 pages of an application for a renewed surveillance warrant against former campaign aide Carter Page, and text messages from disgraced FBI figures Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

 

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said Trump had ordered the documents released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and the Justice Department "[a]t the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency."

 

The documents to be declassified also include all FBI reports on interviews with Justice Department official Bruce Ohr and all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all other applications to surveil Carter Page.

 

Trump also ordered the Justice Department to release text messages from a number of the key players in the Russia investigation "without redaction" -- including Ohr, Strzok, Lisa Page, former FBI Director James Comey and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

 

The 21 pages only make up a small part of the 412 pages of FISA applications and warrants related to Page released by the FBI earlier this year in heavily redacted format. The June 2017 application was the last of four filed by the Justice Department in support of FISA court orders allowing the monitoring of Page for nearly a year.

 

According to the redacted version, three of the declassified pages involve information included in a section titled "The Russian Government's Coordinated Efforts to Influence the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election." That section includes reference to potential coordination between people associated with Trump's campaign and the Russian election interference effort.

 

The other 18 pages appear to relate to information the government submitted that came from former British spy Christopher Steele, who compiled a dossier detailing the Trump campaign's alleged ties to Russia. The document has been a partisan lightning rod since it was published in January 2017.

 

Carter Page told Fox News' Sean Hannity on Monday night that the FBI's investigation was "so incredibly stupid to begin with." He added, "My biggest concern is all the damage that this did to the U.S. government [and] the mockery it made out of the Constitution and all of the wrongdoing that was done by various officials within the Department of Justice, the FBI and the DNC [Democratic National Committee]."

 

It was not immediately clear when or how the documents would be released. A source familiar with the timing of the declassification told Fox News that they expected the Carter Page warrant application to be declassified first, followed by the FBI reports on agent interviews with Ohr.

 

The source added that the Justice Department is working on a "compressed timeline" and they expect the first release of records in days or sooner. The text messages are expected to take longer because of the sheer number involved and the fact that Trump ordered their release without redactions.

 

A Justice Department spokesperson told Fox News that the DOJ and FBI "are already working with the Director of National Intelligence to comply with the President's order."

 

ODNI spokesperson Kellie Wade told Fox News: "As requested by the White House, the ODNI is working expeditiously with our interagency partners to conduct a declassification review of the documents the President has identified for declassification."

 

Congressional sources told Fox News that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., does not know how soon he will get the documents, but said Trump's order covers "pretty much everything that he wanted ... and the text messages are a bonus."

According to the sources, Nunes added: "Wow! This is a direct order."

 

House Intelligence Committee ranking member Adam Schiff, D-Calif., called Trump's decision "a clear abuse of power."

 

"[Trump] has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering the selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative," Schiff said. "With respect to some of these materials, I have been previously informed by the FBI and Justice Department that they would consider their release a red line that must not be crossed as they may compromise sources and methods.

 

"This is evidently of no consequence to a President who cares about nothing about the country and everything about his narrow self-interest," Schiff added.

 

Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., the leader of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, praised Trump's order to declassify the documents.

 

"As Congress has investigated, we've continued to see more and more troubling evidence suggesting multiple senior level FBI and DOJ officials acted in a deeply unethical fashion during the 2016 campaign and throughout the early stages of the Trump administration," Meadows said. "Enough is enough--the time for full transparency is now. Let's bring the full truth to light, while protecting sources and methods, and allow the American people to judge for themselves."

 

Meadows is one of 12 GOP members of Congress who earlier this month publicly asked Trump to declassify the June 2017 application for a warrant against Carter Page as well as the FBI reports of interviews with Ohr, known in bureaucratic parlance as "Form 302s."

 

Reps. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., and Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. -- the ranking members of the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees, respectively -- said Trump's "reckless and irresponsible decision" was "a desperate attempt to distract from ... the mounting evidence of multiple criminal enterprises among his closest advisors.

 

"For the past year, Republicans in Congress have been running interference for President Trump, promoting baseless conspiracy theories, mischaracterizing numerous documents, and attacking our law enforcement and intelligence officials," Cummings and Nadler added. "This effort has been devoid of facts, but it has been incredibly destructive to our democracy."

 

On Sunday, Nunes told Fox News that witness interview transcripts and other documents from the House Intelligence Committee's now-concluded Russia investigation should be made public before November's midterm elections.

 

"If the president wants the American people to really understand just how broad and invasive this investigation has been to many Americans and how unfair it has been, he has no choice but to declassify," Nunes said on "Sunday Morning Futures."

 

House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., said last week that it would be "beneficial" for Americans to see those documents.

 

Trump made a similar move in February when the White House, over the objections of the FBI and intelligence community, cleared the way for the Republican-led House intelligence committee to release a partisan memo about the surveillance warrant on Carter Page. Democrats weeks later released their own memo.

 

The disclosures were unprecedented given that surveillance warrants obtained from the secret court are highly classified and are not meant to be publicly disclosed, including to defendants preparing for or awaiting trial.

 

Fox News' Jake Gibson, John Roberts, Catherine Herridge and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/17/trump-orders-feds-to-declassify-key-fisa-documents-text-m...

 

 

 

 
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