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rk - And - are any of those indictments related to Russian collusion?

 

Special Counsel filed a Statment with the court yesterday.  The work that provided "those indictments" is not yet completed.  He cannot have stressed that enough and they are related, entertwined, part of, emeshed with, supportive of, further indictments not ready for public knowledge.  His office does not leak ongoing processes, he does not share tidbits of this subject, that topic, who-what-where-when.  The (enevitable) final curtain will come down when this story's last chapter is completed.

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rk - Comey admitted that some of his actions were related to the election.

Whereas dt can't even talk about "the election".  Because....

A "crime" provided by opposition research from an opposing political Party?

That being Vlad's Russia, provider of "crime".  The country dt told America he has no interest in and the man he never met.   Holding Comey up as an example of honest testimony is not to be disputed.  Thanks 

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Just to summarize how this all came about, the Russians had approached the Trump campaign about working together. Specifically, they would provide dirt on Trump's primary and then, general election, opponents. George Papadopoulos bragged about this to the Australian Ambassador who notified the FBI.  The FBI did not wish to be partisan and impact the election so they asked a confidential source to interview Trump campaign staff without telling them he was from the FBI.  

 

Now that Mueller is getting Trump orbit people to flip in exchange for plea deals, Trump needs to make this all seem like a witch hunt.   Guilty pleas, indictments, and a documented trail of Trump/Russian meetings notwithstanding. 


Yes, they were willing to accept dirt and never hid it. It turned out to be a fraud on her part and they "walked". Your problem?

 

And - are any of those indictments related to Russian collusion?

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Cirice wrote:

@rk9152wrote:

@Ciricewrote:

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Let's all be honest - we don't know.

 

So, let's look at it this way - if, in fact, the DOJ did place or recruit a spy, informer, whatever within the Trump campaign for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


OR... why don't we look at it this way - if, in fact, Trump and/or anyone in his campaign colluded with Russia for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


A good point as to the "colluded with the Russians" (I would add the word "illegally"). A campaign naturally does act in a partisan way. However, government agencies supposed to be neutral 


In addition to counter-terrorism and counterintelligence, the FBI is also a criminal investigative organization. It's not partisan. It's their job.


A "crime" provided by opposition research from an opposing political Party?


A crime is a crime regardless of who "provided it"....

 

Why is it you continually ignore the "fact" a trump campaign advisor revealed the crime before the Marco Rubio initiated research was released?  If I recall correctly, Rubio is a Republican and not from the opposing political party..


What "crime" are you talking about?

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152wrote:

@Richvawrote:

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Trump is a despicable human being who's doing his best to destroy our intelligence agencies, the press, the Justice Dept. and the FBI. Incredibly, his cult members cannot see what's obvious to everyone with a brain.


Does that mean that you approve of the use of government agencies for partisan purposes? And specifically, do you approve of placing a spy in the campaign organization of the other Party?


I realize that conservatives do not like to read (right Donald?) but someone should point out to them that when one campaign is cooperating with the Russians, investigating them is not partisan.  It is survival of the country.   


This has nothing to do with what you "realize" about Conservatives. It has to do with whether or not you approve of having a campaign spied on by federal agencies for partisan purposes.


One problem with your theory. It was NOT partisan. Offer proof.


the words of Brennan, Strzok, Clapper, need more? it happened under the obama administration, need more? the actions of lois lerner, need more?


Yes, PROOF; not Fox and Limblah innuendo.  But thanks for asking.

 

Nothing in there about your favorite "hide behinds". My pleasure.


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@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152wrote:

@Richvawrote:

 

Just another false narrative from the far right extremists attempting to protect their fascist Prez.

Our President is not a fascist.

 

1.  As they learned yesterday, and that everyone knew already, there wasn't a "spy" in the trump campaign;

Where did you get that from?

 

2.  The suggestion ANYTHING was done in this matter for "partisian purposes" is a made-up false narrative;

Comey admitted that some of his actions were related to the election.

 

I hope the FBI spies on anyone or any group when one of their group members comes forward and say's they're working with a foreign adversary.  IMO, most patriotic and REAL Americans would agree.  Don't you?

I agree - but how does that relate to the topic. Sounds like there was a spy in "group member came forward"


 

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Just to summarize how this all came about, the Russians had approached the Trump campaign about working together. Specifically, they would provide dirt on Trump's primary and then, general election, opponents. George Papadopoulos bragged about this to the Australian Ambassador who notified the FBI.  The FBI did not wish to be partisan and impact the election so they asked a confidential source to interview Trump campaign staff without telling them he was from the FBI.  

 

Now that Mueller is getting Trump orbit people to flip in exchange for plea deals, Trump needs to make this all seem like a witch hunt.   Guilty pleas, indictments, and a documented trail of Trump/Russian meetings notwithstanding. 

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Hey Centrirst, if Trump told his loyal followers that Martian Aliens were living in the White House, spying for the FBI, they would believe it.


No question about it, CeeTee.  Soon we might hear "God told him to work closely with the Russians to provide more adoptions".  And they'd believe that as well.

"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@Cirice wrote:

@rk9152wrote:

@Ciricewrote:

@rk9152wrote:

Let's all be honest - we don't know.

 

So, let's look at it this way - if, in fact, the DOJ did place or recruit a spy, informer, whatever within the Trump campaign for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


OR... why don't we look at it this way - if, in fact, Trump and/or anyone in his campaign colluded with Russia for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


A good point as to the "colluded with the Russians" (I would add the word "illegally"). A campaign naturally does act in a partisan way. However, government agencies supposed to be neutral 


In addition to counter-terrorism and counterintelligence, the FBI is also a criminal investigative organization. It's not partisan. It's their job.


A "crime" provided by opposition research from an opposing political Party?


A crime is a crime regardless of who "provided it"....

 

Why is it you continually ignore the "fact" a trump campaign advisor revealed the crime before the Marco Rubio initiated research was released?  If I recall correctly, Rubio is a Republican and not from the opposing political party..


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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