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Trump is a despicable human being who's doing his best to destroy our intelligence agencies, the press, the Justice Dept. and the FBI. Incredibly, his cult members cannot see what's obvious to everyone with a brain.


Does that mean that you approve of the use of government agencies for partisan purposes? And specifically, do you approve of placing a spy in the campaign organization of the other Party?


I realize that conservatives do not like to read (right Donald?) but someone should point out to them that when one campaign is cooperating with the Russians, investigating them is not partisan.  It is survival of the country.   


This has nothing to do with what you "realize" about Conservatives. It has to do with whether or not you approve of having a campaign spied on by federal agencies for partisan purposes.


One problem with your theory. It was NOT partisan. Offer proof.


the words of Brennan, Strzok, Clapper, need more? it happened under the obama administration, need more? the actions of lois lerner, need more?


Yes, PROOF; not Fox and Limblah innuendo.  But thanks for asking.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@rk9152wrote:

@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Trump is a despicable human being who's doing his best to destroy our intelligence agencies, the press, the Justice Dept. and the FBI. Incredibly, his cult members cannot see what's obvious to everyone with a brain.


Does that mean that you approve of the use of government agencies for partisan purposes? And specifically, do you approve of placing a spy in the campaign organization of the other Party?


I realize that conservatives do not like to read (right Donald?) but someone should point out to them that when one campaign is cooperating with the Russians, investigating them is not partisan.  It is survival of the country.   


This has nothing to do with what you "realize" about Conservatives. It has to do with whether or not you approve of having a campaign spied on by federal agencies for partisan purposes.


Do you have any verified proof that there wasn't an informer in each party's campaign?

After all, doing that sort of thing with ALL the political parties IS what the FBI is supposed to do isn't it?

 

Just another false narrative from the far right extremists attempting to protect their fascist Prez.

 

1.  As they learned yesterday, and that everyone knew already, there wasn't a "spy" in the trump campaign;

 

2.  The suggestion ANYTHING was done in this matter for "partisian purposes" is a made-up false narrative;

 

I hope the FBI spies on anyone or any group when one of their group members comes forward and say's they're working with a foreign adversary.  IMO, most patriotic and REAL Americans would agree.  Don't you?


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Let's all be honest - we don't know.

 

So, let's look at it this way - if, in fact, the DOJ did place or recruit a spy, informer, whatever within the Trump campaign for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


OR... why don't we look at it this way - if, in fact, Trump and/or anyone in his campaign colluded with Russia for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


A good point as to the "colluded with the Russians" (I would add the word "illegally"). A campaign naturally does act in a partisan way. However, government agencies supposed to be neutral 


In addition to counter-terrorism and counterintelligence, the FBI is also a criminal investigative organization. It's not partisan. It's their job.


A "crime" provided by opposition research from an opposing political Party?

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@rk9152wrote:

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@rk9152wrote:

@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Trump is a despicable human being who's doing his best to destroy our intelligence agencies, the press, the Justice Dept. and the FBI. Incredibly, his cult members cannot see what's obvious to everyone with a brain.


Does that mean that you approve of the use of government agencies for partisan purposes? And specifically, do you approve of placing a spy in the campaign organization of the other Party?


I realize that conservatives do not like to read (right Donald?) but someone should point out to them that when one campaign is cooperating with the Russians, investigating them is not partisan.  It is survival of the country.   


This has nothing to do with what you "realize" about Conservatives. It has to do with whether or not you approve of having a campaign spied on by federal agencies for partisan purposes.


One problem with your theory. It was NOT partisan. Offer proof.


the words of Brennan, Strzok, Clapper, need more? it happened under the obama administration, need more? the actions of lois lerner, need more?

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@MIseker wrote:

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Let’s step back to also consider this:

between trump, freedom caucus, fox 

news and other head cases...who are the mental midgets who think

that it is better to investigate the FBI and Justice Department, but not to support fully investigating putin and russia, and anyone connected to cooperating with them? Aren’t they suppose to protect our country and the rule of law? Didn’t many of them take an oath?...or did they take an oath to support a party and a liar?

 

frigid frosty


Wanting to know if a few corrupt individuals within the DOJ played politics is hardly the thinking of "mental midgets" - it is the thinking of American citizens wanting to restore the integrity of this important organization.

 

I know of no one not wanting a a full investigation of Putin and any Russian interference in our elections (and solutions). Some of us just wonder when it will happen. As titillating as "golden showers" and Stormy Daniels may be to some - what about the elections??


Trump got elected. The Russians CONSPIRED to get him elected. the INVESTIGATION is to find out if anyone on the Trump team was in on the CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. So far, with Trump refusing to fully enact sanctions pushed by congress, he ACTS like a man beholden to the Russians. why? hence..the investigation is NOT a witch hunt.

 


As has been discussed elsewhere, the Russians are and have been conducting a social media campaign to weaken our nation via sowing division among the population. No doubt, messing with the election campaign was an element of that. 

 

Those participating in the "Resistance" are unwittingly giving the Russians assistance.

 

You have to ask yourself - "Do I hate the President enough to assist the Russians in weakening our nation?".


so you are saying its ok if Trump or his syncophants conspired against the US?


so, no - so where did you see tha tin my words?

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@rk9152wrote:

@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Trump is a despicable human being who's doing his best to destroy our intelligence agencies, the press, the Justice Dept. and the FBI. Incredibly, his cult members cannot see what's obvious to everyone with a brain.


Does that mean that you approve of the use of government agencies for partisan purposes? And specifically, do you approve of placing a spy in the campaign organization of the other Party?


I realize that conservatives do not like to read (right Donald?) but someone should point out to them that when one campaign is cooperating with the Russians, investigating them is not partisan.  It is survival of the country.   


This has nothing to do with what you "realize" about Conservatives. It has to do with whether or not you approve of having a campaign spied on by federal agencies for partisan purposes.


Do you have any verified proof that there wasn't an informer in each party's campaign?

After all, doing that sort of thing with ALL the political parties IS what the FBI is supposed to do isn't it?

 

 

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@rk9152wrote:

@Ciricewrote:

@rk9152wrote:

Let's all be honest - we don't know.

 

So, let's look at it this way - if, in fact, the DOJ did place or recruit a spy, informer, whatever within the Trump campaign for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


OR... why don't we look at it this way - if, in fact, Trump and/or anyone in his campaign colluded with Russia for partisan purposes, can we agree that such action is very wrong and demands severe punishment?


A good point as to the "colluded with the Russians" (I would add the word "illegally"). A campaign naturally does act in a partisan way. However, government agencies supposed to be neutral 


In addition to counter-terrorism and counterintelligence, the FBI is also a criminal investigative organization. It's not partisan. It's their job.

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@rk9152wrote:

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@rk9152wrote:

@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Trump is a despicable human being who's doing his best to destroy our intelligence agencies, the press, the Justice Dept. and the FBI. Incredibly, his cult members cannot see what's obvious to everyone with a brain.


Does that mean that you approve of the use of government agencies for partisan purposes? And specifically, do you approve of placing a spy in the campaign organization of the other Party?


I realize that conservatives do not like to read (right Donald?) but someone should point out to them that when one campaign is cooperating with the Russians, investigating them is not partisan.  It is survival of the country.   


This has nothing to do with what you "realize" about Conservatives. It has to do with whether or not you approve of having a campaign spied on by federal agencies for partisan purposes.


One problem with your theory. It was NOT partisan. Offer proof.

So it begins.
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@rk9152wrote:

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@williamb39198wrote:

Let’s step back to also consider this:

between trump, freedom caucus, fox 

news and other head cases...who are the mental midgets who think

that it is better to investigate the FBI and Justice Department, but not to support fully investigating putin and russia, and anyone connected to cooperating with them? Aren’t they suppose to protect our country and the rule of law? Didn’t many of them take an oath?...or did they take an oath to support a party and a liar?

 

frigid frosty


Wanting to know if a few corrupt individuals within the DOJ played politics is hardly the thinking of "mental midgets" - it is the thinking of American citizens wanting to restore the integrity of this important organization.

 

I know of no one not wanting a a full investigation of Putin and any Russian interference in our elections (and solutions). Some of us just wonder when it will happen. As titillating as "golden showers" and Stormy Daniels may be to some - what about the elections??


Trump got elected. The Russians CONSPIRED to get him elected. the INVESTIGATION is to find out if anyone on the Trump team was in on the CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. So far, with Trump refusing to fully enact sanctions pushed by congress, he ACTS like a man beholden to the Russians. why? hence..the investigation is NOT a witch hunt.

 


As has been discussed elsewhere, the Russians are and have been conducting a social media campaign to weaken our nation via sowing division among the population. No doubt, messing with the election campaign was an element of that. 

 

Those participating in the "Resistance" are unwittingly giving the Russians assistance.

 

You have to ask yourself - "Do I hate the President enough to assist the Russians in weakening our nation?".


so you are saying its ok if Trump or his syncophants conspired against the US?

So it begins.
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@rk9152wrote:

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@rk9152wrote:

@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Trump is a despicable human being who's doing his best to destroy our intelligence agencies, the press, the Justice Dept. and the FBI. Incredibly, his cult members cannot see what's obvious to everyone with a brain.


Does that mean that you approve of the use of government agencies for partisan purposes? And specifically, do you approve of placing a spy in the campaign organization of the other Party?


I realize that conservatives do not like to read (right Donald?) but someone should point out to them that when one campaign is cooperating with the Russians, investigating them is not partisan.  It is survival of the country.   


This has nothing to do with what you "realize" about Conservatives. It has to do with whether or not you approve of having a campaign spied on by federal agencies for partisan purposes.


When that campaign is deliberately acting against the best interests of the United States of America and is knowingly allowing an enemy nation to throw the election to the deliberately dishonest trump - yeah - that's a bad thing...

 

 

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